$100,000 Reward

[sk8knight]

For information leading to the arrest.

26-year-old officer shot in head in Daytona Beach, $100K reward for suspect information

A police officer was shot in the head near the area of Kingston Avenue in Daytona Beach, officials told WESH 2 News. The search is on for the suspect.

www.wesh.com

 

[Knight In TN]

I don’t understand why cops are so aggressive. He should have just talked to him.*

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

The real life situations where it isn't peace and love and they are literally risking their lives. We allowed this narrative that you can fight with police. Maybe attempt to steal their weapon (Michael brown) and it is the cops fault for using deadly force.

Newsflash...we have dangerous people on the streets. I personally have no sympathy once you're resisting arrest.

I can't disagree with this.

There are some shit head cops out there but we have a generation of young people who've watched YouTube videos on resisting arrest and are Pavlovian with their "Am I being detained--Am I free to go--Fukc the police" faux rage. A simple "license and registration" request from a cop and these people become honorary lawyers.

 

[sk8knight]

I can't disagree with this.

There are some shit head cops out there but we have a generation of young people who've watched YouTube videos on resisting arrest and are Pavlovian with their "Am I being detained--Am I free to go--Fukc the police" faux rage. A simple "license and registration" request from a cop and these people become honorary lawyers.

Of course, the vast majority of them have no idea of what the legal procedures are for police regarding consensual and non-consensual encounters or even that those procedures track back to SCOTUS rulings and guidance. I think a PSA campaign educating people about police interactions would be a very good thing.

 

[DaShuckster]

My thoughts and prayers go out to this cop and his family.

Reading the reactions here, I need somebody to explain how this incident justifies why bad cops use deadly force. It certainly reinforces what a dangerous and shitty job cops have. But something tells me that none of you would take too kindly to a cop coming up to your driver's side window with a gun aimed at your head for a routine traffic stop.

But then again, when everybody and his Uncle is packing heat in their cars nowadays (you know, for 'protection'), it's got to be tough being a cop.

 

[OLearyLastCall]

Of course, the vast majority of them have no idea of what the legal procedures are for police regarding consensual and non-consensual encounters or even that those procedures track back to SCOTUS rulings and guidance. I think a PSA campaign educating people about police interactions would be a very good thing.

I'd love to know what you think those campaigns would look like.

 

[Cubs79]

My thoughts and prayers go out to this cop and his family.

Reading the reactions here, I need somebody to explain how this incident justifies why bad cops use deadly force. It certainly reinforces what a dangerous and shitty job cops have. But something tells me that none of you would take too kindly to a cop coming up to your driver's side window with a gun aimed at your head for a routine traffic stop.

But then again, when everybody and his Uncle is packing heat in their cars nowadays (you know, for 'protection'), it's got to be tough being a cop.

Yep. It's awful that this happened, but people are being shot everyday in this country, and nobody wants to actually take steps to solve the problem.

 

[Cubs79]

Of course, the vast majority of them have no idea of what the legal procedures are for police regarding consensual and non-consensual encounters or even that those procedures track back to SCOTUS rulings and guidance. I think a PSA campaign educating people about police interactions would be a very good thing.

It has nothing to do with a campaign, it has to do with too many guns. This entire country is going nuts with shootings right now and it makes the country less safe for everyone, including cops. If we aren't going to address the actual gun problem (which we aren't), then everything else is just lip service.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

My thoughts and prayers go out to this cop and his family.

Reading the reactions here, I need somebody to explain how this incident justifies why bad cops use deadly force. It certainly reinforces what a dangerous and shitty job cops have. But something tells me that none of you would take too kindly to a cop coming up to your driver's side window with a gun aimed at your head for a routine traffic stop.

But then again, when everybody and his Uncle is packing heat in their cars nowadays (you know, for 'protection'), it's got to be tough being a cop.

I'm just wondering: how many ROUTINE traffic stops in the last year featured a cop walking up to a car with a gun aimed at the driver's head? Do you have any stats for this?

 

[DaShuckster]

If we aren't going to address the actual gun problem (which we aren't), then everything else is just lip service.

THIS! ^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[DaShuckster]

I'm just wondering: how many ROUTINE traffic stops in the last year featured a cop walking up to a car with a gun aimed at the driver's head? Do you have any stats for this?

I was responding to Knight In TN's sarcastic post:

I don’t understand why cops are so aggressive. He should have just talked to him.*

What should this cop have done to protect himself in this case?

 

[Knight In TN]

I was responding to Knight In TN's sarcastic post:

What should this cop have done to protect himself in this case?

I wasn’t justifying anything.

But this type of situation explains why cops (even good ones) are nervous when they conduct even routine traffic stops. They do more dangerous things every day than most of us ever do.

Especially in areas where violent crimes and shootings are common, pulling a gun to protect themselves is a measure that may be too aggressive, but makes sense on a human level when you consider the stakes for them.

 

[RobUCF]

Close to zero. Cops aren't charging your car with guns because you rolled past a stop sign.

I'm sure it does happen, though. The scenario is this, you roll past a stop sign, cop initiates a traffic stop and pulls you over. Next cop runs your license plate and sees that you are wanted on a serious warrant and have a long history of violence involving guns. Cop then makes the decision based on his risk level to protect himself.

 

[sk8knight]

I'm sure it does happen, though. The scenario is this, you roll past a stop sign, cop initiates a traffic stop and pulls you over. Next cop runs your license plate and sees that you are wanted on a serious warrant and have a long history of violence involving guns. Cop then makes the decision based on his risk level to protect himself.

Even then they wouldn't normally have the gun drawn and pointing at the driver's head. Normally that only happens when they have chased a fleeing vehicle to a point where it has been stopped but the driver poses and imminent threat. In your case where they have a violent felon and they're worried, they would conduct a felony stop where the officer stays by his/her car and orders the occupants out over the loudspeaker. Assuming that the stop location is safe to do so.

 

[Ace of Knights]

Close to zero. Cops aren't charging your car with guns because you rolled past a stop sign.

Bro a cop in Arkansas pulled off a PIT maneuver and flipped the van of a pregnant woman because he felt she was fleeing after he put his lights on. Video shows she was on a bridge with a small shoulder, had slowed and even put on her emergency lights indicating she was going to pull over. A completely unreasonable response.

I really feel for this cop. It seems like he was a good one.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

They found him. Some think he disabled the officer's body cam before he shot him. Dude was trained to do this shit.

Othal Wallace waives formal extradition process, expediating return to Florida

Authorities say Othal Wallace was found in a treehouse on the property associated with an organization called NFAC.

www.wesh.com

 

[sk8knight]

They found him. Some think he disabled the officer's body cam before he shot him. Dude was trained to do this shit.

Othal Wallace waives formal extradition process, expediating return to Florida

Authorities say Othal Wallace was found in a treehouse on the property associated with an organization called NFAC.

www.wesh.com

He’s part of a group called the NFAC, the Not F*cling Around Coalition. They are a black militia that is gaining strength in the South. They say they were formed to counter another Greensboro Massacre and to this point have worked with police. Their mission is to create a new black nation, either within the US or without.

This guy, however, supposedly told people 3 days before the attack that he was going to kill a cop. Maybe he was rogue but he was certainly armed and inspired by NFAC.

 

[Cubs79]

Don't support July 4th then because you wouldn't have fought. No United States without guns.

Look how well no guns worked out for countries surrounding Germany in ww2.

Are you really comparing fighting a war for independence as being the equivalent of everday people walking around shooting at each other for little to no reason?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Cops are rightly nervous of an encounter with an individual with a gun in a country where guns outnumber people. It’s common sense. Has nothing to do with bad cops. Other countries with less proliferation of guns amongst the population don’t have to be as nervous that they will need to make a split second decision that could mean life or death on a routine basis.

 

[Cubs79]

Who said I'm for shooting each other for no reason? That is murder which we have laws against. My middle ground would be require some basic training courses. In those training courses it goes over the consequences of deadly force.

But that is what we are talking about and you somehow compared it to the revolutionary war.