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Crazyhole

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Yeah yeah, it's midnight on a Sunday so make fun of me posting this because I don't have a life but I find this funny:



It's just hilarious to see the positions that politicians were taking 30 years ago now that we can look back in hindsight how it all worked out.
 
Trickle down was always a scam. Supply side economics may have had some merit but it still goes against common sense.
How so? At it's most basic, supply-side economics seems like common sense that more suppliers/supply means lower prices and higher quality competing in the marketplace, thus attracting consumption. At least as much common sense as demand-side economics that we're practicing now.
 
How so? At it's most basic, supply-side economics seems like common sense that more suppliers/supply means lower prices and higher quality competing in the marketplace, thus attracting consumption. At least as much common sense as demand-side economics that we're practicing now.
Nothing you wrote disproves trickle down economics as a scam. Which it is. Those with capital will never voluntarily give that money away.
 
How so? At it's most basic, supply-side economics seems like common sense that more suppliers/supply means lower prices and higher quality competing in the marketplace, thus attracting consumption. At least as much common sense as demand-side economics that we're practicing now.
Just reduce it to a micro-level. Say you own a store that makes popcorn. Would it make sense to make more popcorn than what people are demanding?
 
Nothing you wrote disproves trickle down economics as a scam. Which it is. Those with capital will never voluntarily give that money away.
Why should they give that capital away?

I don’t know anyone who’s interested in capital except to trade it for something in the short or long term.
 
After Trump's 1.9 trillion dollar tax cut that we were assured was going to "pay for itself in no time flat," we STILL have posters here believing in the trickle down economics BS?

I guess there's a reason why BT Barnum's quote still rings true: There's a sucker born every minute.
 
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Just reduce it to a micro-level. Say you own a store that makes popcorn. Would it make sense to make more popcorn than what people are demanding?
Possibly, if you’re a government looking to build an industrial base and spur innovation and even diversity.
 
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So you agree trickle down economics is a scam. Thank you.
How much of your money do you hoard?

Constant economic misunderstandings at a basic level with the lefties on this board...

A MASSIVE driver of the concentration of wealth at the top comes from technological advancement and globalization of the marketplace.

There’s not a general store owner in every town anymore that everybody buys provisions from. But Amazon has an owner and he owns the biggest damn general store on the planet.

If you think the correct response is to tax the ever-living shit out of Amazon and use the money for stuff (or cash) for poor people, good luck with that.
 
If you think the correct response is to tax the ever-living shit out of Amazon and use the money for stuff (or cash) for poor people, good luck with that.
It's rich that you're using 'poor Amazon' as your example. :)

The taxes the Biden Administration is proposing is no where close to the taxes paid in this country back in the 60s and 70s. And using the money for our crumbling infrastructure is a no-brainer.
 
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It's rich that you're using 'poor Amazon' as your example. :)

The taxes the Biden Administration is proposing is no where close to the taxes paid in this country back in the 60s and 70s. And using the money for our crumbling infrastructure is a no-brainer.
I’m not saying poor Amazon. I’m saying it’s not going to work. Your reading comprehension is not good.
 
I’m not saying poor Amazon. I’m saying it’s not going to work. Your reading comprehension is not good.
And it’s not going to happen. Take a look at where that business owner is putting his campaign contributions and charitable monies if you think that politicians are going to grab any portion of his money that he doesn’t want to give.
 
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And it’s not going to happen. Take a look at where that business owner is putting his campaign contributions and charitable monies if you think that politicians are going to grab any portion of his money that he doesn’t want to give.
The special exemptions will be written in and the trading this for that will happen behind closed doors, just like it always does. Doesn’t really matter who’s in charge.
 
It's rich that you're using 'poor Amazon' as your example. :)

The taxes the Biden Administration is proposing is no where close to the taxes paid in this country back in the 60s and 70s. And using the money for our crumbling infrastructure is a no-brainer.
Lol at crumbling infrastructure again. When was the last time your power went out? Do you have a hard time navigating the potholes to get to Target or HyVee? Is the airport runway too dangerous to land on so they redirect you to a different city? Do you lose cell service because towers are collapsing?
 
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It seems to me that at this point in time, the only infrastructure spending that makes any sense is in antifa/BLM proof buildings.
 
How much of your money do you hoard?

Constant economic misunderstandings at a basic level with the lefties on this board...

A MASSIVE driver of the concentration of wealth at the top comes from technological advancement and globalization of the marketplace.

There’s not a general store owner in every town anymore that everybody buys provisions from. But Amazon has an owner and he owns the biggest damn general store on the planet.

If you think the correct response is to tax the ever-living shit out of Amazon and use the money for stuff (or cash) for poor people, good luck with that.
You've been bamboozled.
 
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I’m not saying poor Amazon. I’m saying it’s not going to work. Your reading comprehension is not good.
These guys believe an economic premise that hasn't worked for 40 years is going to suddenly start working, while the economic premise that actually worked for the 40 years before that will never work.

...and they wonder why we call them idiots.
 
You've been bamboozled.
So tech advances that allow simple retail to be largely handled by one company isn’t a major contributor to the increased concentration of wealth at the top? That’s... a take, I’ll give you that.
 
Their newer stores are actually closer to a Wegmans than a Publix though.
Never been in either a Wegmans or a Publix. I have a hard time believing either is significantly better than HyVee. I mean, it's a grocery store that's good enough to cater weddings.
 
Never been in either a Wegmans or a Publix. I have a hard time believing either is significantly better than HyVee. I mean, it's a grocery store that's good enough to cater weddings.
HEB in Texas is probably the best in the country, largely due to their huge variety and availability of amazing meats. These stores are absolutely huge. Wegmans is an Atlantic-seaboard chain and is consistently rated in the top 3 for selection and customer service. Wegmans was doing the restaurant-in-a-supermarket concept before HyVee and does it quite well. Publix is a central Florida chain that has been sweeping the south due largely to its customer service. Other than service and cleanliness, Publix doesn’t do anything great (unless you love their deli subs) but doesn’t have any holes either.

Apparently I’ve spent too much time on the road.

Here’s a link: https://www.thedailymeal.com/americas-best-supermakets
 
So you agree trickle down economics is a scam. Thank you.
'Trickle down' happens ... whether it's government or private industry.

The problem in the US is that we do neither capitalism nor socialism correctly. We utterly make it about special interest and absolute powers, starting with the US Congress. We are no better than the British Parliament.

Heck, even the Swiss are more market-based than us, when it comes to not only healthcare, but the environment. That's why they have the best of both in Europe. I honestly wished Americans would study market-based European economies like the Swiss, or at least the socialism of France or Sweden, or the domestic industry of Germany.

But too many Americans assume lower taxes for them, higher taxes for others, making things other people's problem, instead of their own, is the way forward.

And it's why we're running record deficits.
 
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