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*2018 State of the Union*

Dilly, Dilly. I'm expecting some kind of physical altercation tonight.

Take a shot every time you hear: immigration, security, or bipartisan.
 
This entire thing is a debacle that should be killed off. Thomas Jefferson ended it; Woodrow Wilson brought it back. All of these “special guests” and now the 5 different left wing rebuttals just make this pathetic. I don’t care what side is in office.

Go back to what Jefferson wanted- have the President send to Congress his list of priorities every year and be done with it.

End this pathetic display
 
88 minute speech. Followed by some 12 year old Kennedy kid attempting to be Obama.

Kill this off already. It's completely unnecessary.
 
88 minute speech. Followed by some 12 year old Kennedy kid attempting to be Obama.

Kill this off already. It's completely unnecessary.

If you don't want to watch it, don't. It's tradition, it's not going to stop.

Anyway, I actually thought he started off strong and then started to struggle. He became progressively worse at reading from a teleprompter, having to keep slowing down and catch where he was. He also saved the end of the speech for the stuff people disagree with him most on. Should have done the tax cut stuff at the end.
 
I DVR'd the speech and hit up $7 Movie and 50% off Popcorn Night at Regal Theater and saw Star Wars.

Watched speech in about 38 mins this am.

Both were pretty good as expected.
 
If you don't want to watch it, don't. It's tradition, it's not going to stop.

Anyway, I actually thought he started off strong and then started to struggle. He became progressively worse at reading from a teleprompter, having to keep slowing down and catch where he was. He also saved the end of the speech for the stuff people disagree with him most on. Should have done the tax cut stuff at the end.

This is not the Grammys. This is national policy we are dealing with, yet the country allows itself to get sucked into this empty vessel of a speech that is used purely for messaging vs. actually outlining anything of substance.

Your last paragraph made my point, btw. Anyone would struggle to get through an 88 minute speech. It's absurd. It's why you have to make your best points first since most people simply do not want to sit through an hour and a half of pontificating.
 
democrats remained seated while trump announced black and hispanic unemployment at lowest levels ever. that was absolutely terrible.
 
I actually loved it. I think it finally saw the light and got inspired. Hail Trump!
 
Can you explain why members of a Black Congressional Caucus would sit in disdain when being told that black unemployment is at lows not seen in decades?

For the very reason you said the whole thing is dumb, it's all showboating.
 
For the very reason you said the whole thing is dumb, it's all showboating.

Ok- but people cheered for other things. They cheered at other points.

What you’re basically admitting here is that their irrational total hatred for Trump has rendered them unable to simply celebrate something that is supremely GOOD for the populace that they pretend to support and care about.
 
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Ok- but people cheered for other things. They cheered at other points.

What you’re basically admitting here is that their irrational total hatred for Trump has rendered them unable to simply celebrate something that is supremely GOOD for the populace that they pretend to support and care about.

I'll just assume they don't believe him or they think their constituents don't believe him. No idea if the number is "correct" or not - but he does like to spin things.

Anyway - whatever. I honestly can give two effs about any of this stuff anymore. It's a reality TV show. Just gonna live my life and worry about things I can actually control.
 
I'll just assume they don't believe him or they think their constituents don't believe him. No idea if the number is "correct" or not - but he does like to spin things.

Anyway - whatever. I honestly can give two effs about any of this stuff anymore. It's a reality TV show. Just gonna live my life and worry about things I can actually control.
Whether they believe him or not, whether it is true or not, their show will convince their flocks that Trump is not to be believed. We've reached a point where truth is irrelevant and too many people are basing their beliefs and votes on a small group of people that care for nothing other than their own power.
 
This entire thing is a debacle that should be killed off. Thomas Jefferson ended it; Woodrow Wilson brought it back. All of these “special guests” and now the 5 different left wing rebuttals just make this pathetic. I don’t care what side is in office.

Go back to what Jefferson wanted- have the President send to Congress his list of priorities every year and be done with it.

End this pathetic display

This might be the first time I've agreed with you. It just seems so juvenile. One side hooting and hollering like kids in a "yo mama" battle, while the other is checking Instagram and waiting for it to be over.
 
democrats remained seated while trump announced black and hispanic unemployment at lowest levels ever. that was absolutely terrible.

Because he was taking credit for something he had no part of. That stat has been on the same trajectory since Obama was in office. Trump didn't do a single thing in his first year to affect it, yet is taking credit for it....among many other things.
 
Because he was taking credit for something he had no part of. That stat has been on the same trajectory since Obama was in office. Trump didn't do a single thing in his first year to affect it, yet is taking credit for it....among many other things.

:joy::joy::joy::joy:

W was responsible for any gains during Obama's term, Clinton was responsible for the two recessions under W, Reagan and HW were responsible for the boom under Clinton. Did I do that right?
 
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Trump averaged 1 lie every 4 1/2 minutes. If you like being lied to for 90 minutes, then this was the speech for you.

And LOL at Melania's face of disdain as he entered. I'm guessing knowing your husband raw dogged a open star a few months after you gave birth to his son was news to her.
 
:joy::joy::joy::joy:

W was responsible for any gains during Obama's term, Clinton was responsible for the two recessions under W, Reagan and HW were responsible for the boom under Clinton. Did I do that right?

No, because now you're trying to dismiss actuall facts by making broad generalizations. Try again.
 
Is there a source you would accept and not immediately claim "fake news"?
Considering that CBS’s fact check found truth in most of Trump’s claims, I’m interested to see what source you have.
 
He claimed on Twitter it was the most viewed SOTU in history. Which of course, it was not.
 
If the economy tanked and markets tanked, as every left wing pundit and asshole predicted (Paul Krugman, anyone?), we would have been hearing nonstop "TRUMP RUINED THE ECONOMY! IT'S ALL HIS FAULT!!!!!!"

Yet according to these same people, he gets absolutely no credit for the massive bull market, increasingly lower unemployment numbers, corporate investments, and soaring consumer confidence. None! These things are all just Obama's doing; nothing done in the past year has anything to do with it!

Hilarious.
 
Here's the deal. Who isn't going to get up there and massage details in their favor? Especially this POTUS. Did you really think he was going to stand in front of the country and say, "I am so thankful that Barry got shit rolling for me over the past four years and now it's allowing things to take off!" Or "I just helped pass the 2nd-best (or whatever) tax cut ever." It's a dog and pony show.
 
98% of isis held land has been reclaimed since trump took office. but im sure that is just him taking credit for obamas hard work.
 
Can you explain why members of a Black Congressional Caucus would sit in disdain when being told that black unemployment is at lows not seen in decades?
Because Trump is claiming it as an accomplishment when it was really the work and policies of the previous black president.

It's equivalent to Josh Heupel starting the season next year 3-0 and then him taking credit for UCF amazing run of 16 straight wins.
 
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