A little quiz for Boston Knight and UCFBS
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I had my annual check-up with my doctor today and we got to talking about all this crazy internet sh!t about masks, the vaccines, and this horse paste fad.
He said he wouldn't ever dream of telling a plumber or an IT guy how they should do their jobs. But for some bizarre reason, he said that this COVID virus has transformed truck drivers, insurance salesmen, and bartenders into viral disease experts not afraid to tell him and other health professionals across the country that they're full of it.
We had a good laugh about it.
He said he wouldn't ever dream of telling a plumber or an IT guy how they should do their jobs. But for some bizarre reason, he said that this COVID virus has transformed truck drivers, insurance salesmen, and bartenders into viral disease experts not afraid to tell him and other health professionals across the country that they're full of it.
We had a good laugh about it.
Don’t forget IT guys. We have a few of them. But, but, but, they read. It would take them an hour to answer all those questions just looking them up on Google. 😂
Although @UCFBS would NEVER ADMIT IT
That quiz for a person who develops vaccines is like asking you to name 10 players who ever played football for Nebraska
It’s a whole different level of intelligence
These guys, read, regurgitate the information without understanding half of it and add their own narrative, opinion and twist. Then they present it as factual to the uneducated or uninformed. It’s really scary dangerous
In reality, they couldn’t have a intelligent conversation with someone who develops vaccines. I’ll admit that I can’t
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As we've witnessed on this board FOR MONTHS NOW, their lack of any real knowledge on the subject doesn't seem to phase them a bit.
They tell you in no uncertain terms (and sometimes in bold colors) that they know more than our entire medical community because...(cue trumpet fanfare)....they read AN ARTICLE debunking it on on Facebook by golly!!!!!!!!!!!
As my Doc remarked to me today, we live in a crazy world nowadays.
That is an oversimplification of the problem. Even the experts in this field that disagree are being told to sit down and shut up. It's not just IT guys and plumbers that are being silenced.
Tell me, when was the last time you went to see a doctor about a health problem that didn't end up with you walking out with the prescription for a pharmaceutical. It doesn't matter what ails you, there is a drug that can fix it, amirite?
Yea but people think bankers are evil assholes who are selfishly harming society for their own benefit, not that they are fundamentally wrong when it comes to generating income statements because they saw an accountant on YouTube that said so.
Once you buy into the idea that government and experts are working some nefarious plot, then that's all you see. Incompetence becomes evidence of the plot. Ignorance becomes evidence of the plot. And anyone good at writing fiction can feed your need for confirmation bias.
The reality is that some science gets politicized and some doesn't. Once it's politicized you're screwed. But the PhD studying this stuff is no different than a PhD in electrical engineering. They've dedicated their lives to a topic it just so happens it became political.
Do you think it makes sense to "have an opinion on electrical engineers?" I don't even know what that would mean. So I don't know how you apply that logic to the scientific community at large.
Isn't that the point? That if you can't answer those questions you might want to consider deferring to authority on the topic? In other words, if you want to argue that the electrical circuits in your cell phone don't really obey Ohm's law, but you don't understand basic electrical circuits, you're probably on the wrong end of the argument.
But you can go the other way. Even if you're not an electrical engineer, you can pretty confidently defend Ohm's law. Not because you know anything about it, but because you know when to defer to authority. If you spent 10 hours doing research on circuit design, do you think there's any scenario where you would comfortably and confidently argue with someone who's been designing circuits for 30 years on the topic?
I get what you are saying, but there is a flaw in your point. We aren't just dealing with plumbers arguing with biological scientists on this issue, it's also a situation where peers are disagreeing and one side is being silenced and villianized.
Why do I need to? I’m taking the advice of people that know about this stuff, not people who work in IT telling you not to
You're just creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Being silenced/villainized is not evidence of being right. A very vocal minority of voices does not trump consensus data and assessments, and it certainly doesn't rationalize non-experts (like us) to defend those positions.
You know what's easy to do as a contrarian? Show up on fringe podcasts and talk about how you're being ignored. You know what's hard to do as a contrarian? Produce actual research that survives peer review that gets other experts on board with your position.
Not even remotely accurate. Let's just take this down to numbers and find an explanation that isnt refutable.
A year ago, we had zero vaccinated people. Today, we have around 50% of people fully vaccinated and yet cases and deaths are comparable. It would take a very simple-minded approach to say the answer is based on 1 variable (delta), when that variable is marginal at best. It has to be a combination of things to explain what we are seeing, so why is it a problem to look at all of the variables?
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to point out here. The recent surge is certainly a complex epidemiological event, but I don't think it's hard to have an Occam's razor like explanation that fits with the data at a high level.
Delta is ~2x as infectious. You have a vaccine that was pretty good against infection in trials on earlier strains, but clearly loses it's ability to resist infection over time (see Israel data). It seems even worse off when preventing infection with the more infectious strain, but it's still highly effective in preventing serious disease.
The net result is a virus spreading rapidly through the population (both vaxxed and unvaxxed), but hospitals filling up only with unvaxxed. Logically, if we had 100% vaccination we'd have very few hospitalized COVID patients. Conversely, with 0% vaccination rates perhaps we'd have twice as many.
So yea it's complex, but there's a pretty straight forward explanation that fits with what we know.
Still too simplistic. We have an unknown level of waning vaccine efficacy, lack of knowledge on how long antibodies from natural infection last, unknown levels of cross immunity, unknown percentage of cases from Delta, unknown comorbitities, etc. On top of that we don't really know whether Delta is 2x or 4x as infectious as the alpha variant because social distancing and masking levels have changed. There is literally no constant in this equation, so how do you do the math?
They all probably just aren’t good test takers. I’m sure that they felt that the 870s they got on the SAT was not indicative of their real intelligence.
You couldn’t answer it and either could your shit for brains make believe friends. You only know how to manipulate Twitter for the answers
Did you ask him what his early treatment protocol is for covid? No? Let me tell you why: He doesn't have one. I'm seeing dozens of reports just like this. Darwin gonna Darwin. But you do you and keep hoping people die and are denied early treatment and "have a good laugh". You may find yourself reaching for the horse paste one day too
so you trust petroleum engineers & geologists that think using fossil fuels is best for society and that man-made global warming is a hoax, right?
You crack me up. Your analogies are do much different than our 2 resident experts.
its a fair point. nobody hates Tesla like people in the oil industry, and getting a masters in petroleum engineering requires an almost autistic level of intelligence.
Paul Marik relayed a similar story on recent FLCCC con call. One of his colleagues, not 3 times, but twice. i.e. RO->VAX->RO . And the ro after the vax was severe hospitalized ro. Similar to Christy. This looks like what we always feared with ADE
The epi data is still incomplete here, but so far highly favorable to natural immunity. But I think some percentage of people are going to be prone to reinfection and ADE
I will say that I absolutely trust petroleum engineers and geologists when it comes to figuring out how to get petroleum out of the earth. That doesn't mean they're qualified to assess the impacts of burning those fuels on climate. I'll also say that I don't think climate scientists are qualified to properly trade the economic consequences of restricting petroleum use. Again, this is a great example of when science gets politicized - you're screwed.
the problem there is that the loudest "environmental scientists" are political activists employed by the government, whose degrees don't even require them to study the history of the earth's climate.
you're not referring to the 98.4% of climate scientists who disagree with the man-made climate change hysteria.
Came here to participate for the hell of it. FYI some of your answers are incorrect.
I didn't even try to answer the questions. I just threw those letters out to see if the OP would know the correct answers.
Of course I don’t know the answers dummy. Neither do your imaginary friends. That’s the whole point. People need to stop acting like they know about vaccines that don’t. Know what you don’t know and stop killing people
This doesn’t apply to your boyfriend @KNIGHTTIME^ He can barely read
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