It's one thing to call for the firing of a head coach. It's quite another to falsely blame a head coach for the death of a player when, in fact, that head coach was not found to have done anything wrong. His "dead players" attack on O'Leary in the thread he created about Sawyer Smith was way over the line. Is this the kind of "fan" that UCF should have? If I had the power to do so, I would not welcome him at any UCF events.
C-MontCityKnight2's "dead players" comment was way over the line
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Add Firm_Bizzle along with C-Mont, too, as far as I'm concerned.
EDIT: Jason, I initially had your name in this post, but I've since read a few posts where you argued against Firm and C-Mont. I apologize for lumping you in with them and have edited this post.
EDIT: Jason, I initially had your name in this post, but I've since read a few posts where you argued against Firm and C-Mont. I apologize for lumping you in with them and have edited this post.
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Excellent Gastapo like tactic. Blame people who weren't involved in the comment or the thread. Let's see how small we can make the UCF fanbase.
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Fail.
Excellent Gastapo like tactic. Blame people who weren't involved in the comment or the thread. Let's see how small we can make the UCF fanbase.
Fail.
I think the fanbase would do just fine without you or C-Mont in it.
Actually, I agree with you that the UCF fanbase would be fine without me. I'm just one fan. But I don't think I'm alone in my opinion about what you and C-Mont have to say about GOL.
C-Mont, Firm, and a small number of their followers (could just be C-Mont and/or Firm using multiple accounts, for all anyone knows) apparently feel that not only should GOL be fired, but that he is somehow responsible for Ereck Plancher's death even though no evidence has surfaced to back that up. O'Leary testified in court that he had the drinks on the field moved off so that they would have more room to run some drills. The testimony was that he was not trying to deny drinks to the players. The people whose opinions mattered in court did not hold him accountable in Plancher's death. Apparently, that isn't good enough for C-Mont and Firm. I guess they have some secret evidence about the case that hasn't already been revealed in court.
Wow. I just read the wikipedia on that. I'm only in my second year at UCF so wasn't around for all this. Truly sad.
One common theme I saw with that Monty guy is he seems to have a problem with George's age. Is he crazy? Look at Bowden and Paterno and Beamer. All old guys who were dedicated to their programs and successful to the end. We should be happy we have this guy.
One common theme I saw with that Monty guy is he seems to have a problem with George's age. Is he crazy? Look at Bowden and Paterno and Beamer. All old guys who were dedicated to their programs and successful to the end. We should be happy we have this guy.
Cliffs note version is most of the fan base want a new AD hired very soon who is not GOL, and for that AD to make indications that Key is not the prime coach in waiting candidate.
Let's look at Bowden, Beamer, and Paterno.
Bowden-had hciw brought in, fired/"retired" a few years after.
Beamer-Now hated by most vt fans and is a sad parody of himself. Also hired Scot Loeffer who is his Brent Key.
Paterno- see Sandusky.
Use better examples.
To the original post: I also find using pictures of Isis to bash people offensive especially since you know they killed a UCF alum.
Bowden-had hciw brought in, fired/"retired" a few years after.
Beamer-Now hated by most vt fans and is a sad parody of himself. Also hired Scot Loeffer who is his Brent Key.
Paterno- see Sandusky.
Use better examples.
To the original post: I also find using pictures of Isis to bash people offensive especially since you know they killed a UCF alum.
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So ... ? If your point is to excuse yourself and others because there are on-a-whim fans in other programs, especially when the results are not always better, I think you're only proving our position against yours!
I'd argue Penn State is more like USF.
Build the program and run it as the administration and boosters excuse it ... until it becomes a legal liability, and then blame 1-2 people for everything, throwing them under-the-bus. I actually feel for Beaker like I do Paterno.
Sorry, but this is a "case study" in "passive-aggressive."
You guys: Say GoL and other boosters/fans are "holding the program hostage"
We retort: If you're going to go there, why don't you "just go join ISIS"?
You guys: "Speaking of terrorism," you call us terrorists directly, and all sorts of other things
We retort: "Why stop there, why don't you just go Hitler?"
You guys: You go Hitler, because you wanted to, but now claim it's because we called you terrorists.
We retort: If you're going to go there, why don't you "just go join ISIS"?
Key point: Consider ISIS' underlying philosophy ... terrorism against everyone, the west and anyone who supports them, because they consider the west holding the middle east hostage.
You guys: "Speaking of terrorism," you call us terrorists directly, and all sorts of other things
We retort: "Why stop there, why don't you just go Hitler?"
You guys: You go Hitler, because you wanted to, but now claim it's because we called you terrorists.
In other words ... the offensive nature of how you guys are even approaching us, saying we're purposely hurting the program as if we were terrorists, holding hostages, etc... is where it started, the people who started it know what they were doing, we immediately recognized where it was going, and -- sure enough -- you went there!
Textbook passive-aggressiveness.
You mean student-athlete? How many programs in Florida have killed student-athletes? A lot of them!
But the only difference between UCF and those programs is that a lawyer got a judge to rule UCF wasn't subject to the $200K cap. Lawyers and trials only happen when there's money to be made.
Wait ucfbs, you really don't know that isis killed a former Ucf student? Cause holy shit, you really are dense. How about you stop pretending to be a executive, go look at the news once in a while and see that isis beheaded a Ucf alum last year. That's why I find it offensive. But holy shit dude you are either really dense or are just stupid.
Also my point was that those coaches that were used as examples were poor. Should have used a Bill Snyder Mike Riley Alvarez example. I'll wait for you to google those names since I doubt you have any idea who they are.
Also my point was that those coaches that were used as examples were poor. Should have used a Bill Snyder Mike Riley Alvarez example. I'll wait for you to google those names since I doubt you have any idea who they are.
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I'm not even complaining about O'Leary. My thing is look around before handing Key the reigns and hiring Chuck was a mistake. But I mom just shocked that UCFBS is so ****ing stupid and dense when it comes to me being offended by the Isis comparison. Turn on a tv or twitter or read the ****ing newsletter that UCF sent out about it.
I'm going to tell you one more time ...
Re-read the board to find out what this threads is about! Understand the original poster! I'll recap for you ...
- The "Garbage Men" start saying GoL is responsible for all sorts of things, including sanctions and killing a UCF player
- The "Garbage Men" say GoL and all other fans who don't want fire him are holding the program "hostage"
- Finally someone (not me) calls them out on calling us terrorists, and tries to get them to realize they are actually the terrorists their "tactics" are ISIS-like.
- The "Garbage Men" repeat and say we're terrorists, we're holding the program hostage, etc...
- I try to "lighten the mood" by posting various "troll" memes and even an "I can't spell" with ISIS-like flag (did you not see that?!)
- The "Garbage Men" continue their non-sense, calling us terrorists and saying we're holding them hostage.
- I finally chime and and say, rhetorically, why don't the "Garbage Men" just call us Hitler?
- The "Garbage Men" eventually go to Hitler, now saying they have to use "Hitler" because we called them ISIS
- The "Garbage Men" repeatedly dodge my quoting them of what they actually said, and playing passive-aggressive games
- Finally ... after they say I called them ISIS, I finally do call their tactics ISIS-like ... nuking everyone who disagrees with them
- You now come in and act like I invented the ISIS non-sense!
Dude ... don't you understand the original poster's point?!
It's not about ISIS. I certainly did not use "hostage" or "terrorism" or "ISIS" first, and some of the biggest loudmouths here did so first!
Dude ... I just love how you are ignoring the original poster and the entire subject of this thread.
No. I will continue to take you on a tour of what you guys say. You cannot distract from what you have said.
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