California Oroville Dam Problems

[UCFWayne]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-200-000-people-evacuated-194424578.html

Scary times for those people and families. They might not be able to go back for a very long time.

I bet there are some people in California that now wish they had spent some of the money they give to the illegal aliens on that dam thats about to collapse on them.

 

[Sir Galahad]

This is just a faster version of Calexit.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

I was under the impression they had it under control at this point and were already working on repairs?

 

[UCFWayne]

I was under the impression they had it under control at this point and were already working on repairs?

you are probably right, i just learned about it this morning.

 

[cnewton157]

It's more under control, but the issue is that more rain is expected this week. They're unsure if the emergency spillway structure can hold after that.

 

[chemmie]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-200-000-people-evacuated-194424578.html

Scary times for those people and families. They might not be able to go back for a very long time.

I bet there are some people in California that now wish they had spent some of the money they give to the illegal aliens on that dam thats about to collapse on them.

Ummmm... isn't the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers responsible for this, just like the levees in New Orleans? Sounds like a major fault of failing to spend money on U.S. infrastructure more than anything. Maybe if Republicans would stop giving tax breaks to rich people so they can hoard more cash, we could keep our infrastructure up.

 

[UCFWayne]

http://gizmodo.com/why-all-americans-should-be-worried-about-the-oroville-1792304716

Looks like theyve know about problems going on 12 years now. On top of that, its not just this dam, but many across the country. I hope Trump will take a serious look at this and all the other possible problem dams across the country.

 

[cnewton157]

US infrastructure is indeed trash across the board. Tons of neglect over the decades. Spending on emergency repairs instead of steady maintenance or planned total replacement when structures reach their original operational end life.

Unfortunately government led infrastructure plans aren't considered to be "real" sources of building a workforce or economy. Hopefully that stance changes.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Ummmm... isn't the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers responsible for this, just like the levees in New Orleans? Sounds like a major fault of failing to spend money on U.S. infrastructure more than anything. Maybe if Republicans would stop giving tax breaks to rich people so they can hoard more cash, we could keep our infrastructure up.

Obama and Dems had two years with a filibuster proof majority. Why didn't they do anything about infrastructure then?

 

[UCFWayne]

Ummmm... isn't the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers responsible for this, just like the levees in New Orleans? Sounds like a major fault of failing to spend money on U.S. infrastructure more than anything.

You are probably right, it is probably more than just the states fault on this. Deleted the rest of your garbage quote. It would appear its not just a rep thing, but a dem/rep problem that could have been avoided if both did their jobs.

 

[chemmie]

Obama and Dems had two years with a filibuster proof majority. Why didn't they do anything about infrastructure then?

They were too busy trying to fix the $1.4 Trillion deficit they inherited.

 

[chemmie]

You are probably right, it is probably more than just the states fault on this. Deleted the rest of your garbage quote. It would appear its not just a rep thing, but a dem/rep problem that could have been avoided if both did their jobs.

That is honestly true. The U.S. needs a serious investment in infrastructure like we haven't seen since FDR was President, and neither party is doing anything to do it. But, the only way to pay for it would be tax increases or increasing the deficit over a trillion again, and nobody has the balls to do that.

 

[cnewton157]

Obama and Dems had two years with a filibuster proof majority. Why didn't they do anything about infrastructure then?

They didn't have filibuster proof majority. Lieberman isn't a Democrat - but sometimes votes with them. US was also kind of on the edge of a depression. And spending is bad, and states were rejecting efforts to modernize infrastructure.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

They were too busy trying to fix the $1.4 Trillion deficit they inherited.

By passing Obamacare which will add $1T to the yearly deficit by 2025 all by itself?

 

[chemmie]

By passing Obamacare which will add $1T to the yearly deficit by 2025 all by itself?

You're off course, Bob. Stop adding irrelevant garbage to our discussions, and stop being a dumb redneck.

 

[Sir Galahad]

That is honestly true. The U.S. needs a serious investment in infrastructure like we haven't seen since FDR was President, and neither party is doing anything to do it. But, the only way to pay for it would be tax increases or increasing the deficit over a trillion again, and nobody has the balls to do that.

What happened to the 800 billion in TARP that was for infrastructure?

 

[fabknight]

dammit!

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

 

[CommuterBob]

They were too busy trying to fix the $1.4 Trillion deficit they inherited.

No. They passed an "infrastructure bill" that had less than 10% of the budget going to actual infrastructure projects.

 

[CommuterBob]

What happened to the 800 billion in TARP that was for infrastructure?

LOL. Less than 10% of that was designated for actual infrastructure.

 

[CommuterBob]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-200-000-people-evacuated-194424578.html

Scary times for those people and families. They might not be able to go back for a very long time.

I bet there are some people in California that now wish they had spent some of the money they give to the illegal aliens on that dam thats about to collapse on them.

The dam is not in danger of collapse.

The spillway is eroding, which could result in uncontrolled releases, but the dam isn't going anywhere.

 

[fabknight]

No. They passed an "infrastructure bill" that had less than 10% of the budget going to actual infrastructure projects.

Well yeah, it was allocated to all those shovel ready jobs.

 

[EweSeaEff]

Would you guys please stop cursing?

 

[btbones]

This is obviously the fault of Ronald Reagan

 

[1ofTheseKnights]

 

[cnewton157]

The dam is not in danger of collapse.

The spillway is eroding, which could result in uncontrolled releases, but the dam isn't going anywhere.

If there is uncontrolled release elsewhere, it really doesn't matter if the dam structure itself is fine. The water will get out.

 

[UCFKnight85]

They were too busy trying to fix the $1.4 Trillion deficit they inherited.

By passing multiple bills with $1T deficit increases

 

[CommuterBob]

If there is uncontrolled release elsewhere, it really doesn't matter if the dam structure itself is fine. The water will get out.

There's a huge difference between a 100,000 CFS uncontrolled release and a dam breach that would be 1000x larger.

 

[Great2BAKnight2]

Infrastructure projects are the perfect candidates for Deficit Spending in a recession. They have a life span so when the economy recovers, those who got temporary work can go back to the private sector. That's the Keynesian approach and is pretty widely accepted. But for that to work, you can't be running a huge deficit when you enter the recession.