Covid early treatment/ prophylaxis thread

[Boston.Knight]

Ivermectin, HCQ, fluvoxomine and many others all work as prophylaxis or for early treatment. There are many other simple OTC things too.

It’s the biggest scandal out there today. Here is how Canada responds to questions on ivy from their constituents

 

[Boston.Knight]

There have been a lot of crappy studies saying HCQ doesn't work. But all the frontline physicians that actually are saving lives swear by it. Not just America Frontline Docs, but all over the world. It has to be combo'd with stuff for it to work. Taking HCQ alone is showing ineffective

A 100K study out of France was released yesterday that showed HCQ beneficial when combo'd with azithromycin. I don't want to kill good gut bacteria with the azythro, and combo it with OTC stuff instead to get the proper mechanism of action

Ivermectin is even better, and most of the HCQ crowd moved on to that as their front line antiviral

 

[DaShuckster]

Because Trump was even hopeful of some of these drugs, it will never be used. Pushing the narrative for the vaccine

OR....maybe HCQ for Covid-19 was bullshit all along and most doctors aren't buying it.

From the linked article:

"In April, Gov. Ron DeSantis arranged for a donation of 1 million doses of hydroxychloroquine for hospitals around the state. Less than 2% was distributed, leaving 983,900 doses sitting in Tallahassee.

“We had 1,000 people send letters asking the governor to address what was becoming a shortage,” said Amy Yalden, chief executive officer of the Lupus Foundation of America Florida Chapter. She said they heard nothing: “No response. No. Never."

As the drug remains warehoused, people with lupus, who rely on hydroxychloroquine to stave off organ damage, pain and disability, are paying triple the cost and often having to substitute the more expansive brand-name version, Plaquenil.

“People can’t get their normal prescription, and we don’t know where the drug is that went to the hospitals,” Yalden said last month.

What Yalden didn’t know was that most of the doses never made it to the state's medical centers.

“To date, 16,100 doses have been distributed to six hospitals that requested the medication,” according to an email on Thursday from the state’s Joint Information Center on COVID-19. “The state still has 983,900 doses on hand.”

According to the manufacturer Amneal, hydroxychloroquine has a shelf-life of 24 months."

Florida’s unhealthy stockpile

As lupus patients struggle to find supplies of a drug they desperately need, the state of Florida has hoarded a...

www.heraldtribune.com

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I’m told literally everything is a prophylactic for Covid. Hundreds of medicines, herbals, body scrubs, vitamins. Not the vaccine though. Definitely not the vaccine.

 

[NinjaKnight]

I don't even have words to describe how goddamn stupid you are.

How are people like you allowed to vote?

 

[Ace of Knights]

Cases and deaths are literally the lowest they’ve been in this country since last March. Little hint, it ain’t the HCQ or horse paste you were pushing a few weeks ago.

People are literally dieing and piling bodies in the streets in places like India and Brazil. America is literally the envy of the world because of our vaccines and proof that they’re working, and we’ve got lunatics like Boston pushing horse pastes. Man, what a world.

 

[DaShuckster]

People are literally dieing and piling bodies in the streets in places like India and Brazil. America is literally the envy of the world because of our vaccines and proof that they’re working, and we’ve got lunatics like Boston pushing horse pastes. Man, what a world.

THIS! ^^^^^^^

 

[NinjaKnight]

Cases and deaths are literally the lowest they’ve been in this country since last March. Little hint, it ain’t the HCQ or horse paste you were pushing a few weeks ago.

People are literally dieing and piling bodies in the streets in places like India and Brazil. America is literally the envy of the world because of our vaccines and proof that they’re working, and we’ve got lunatics like Boston pushing horse pastes. Man, what a world.

43% of this country is in a goddamn cult.


We are so fücked

 

[Crazyhole]

What happens when you get a man made virus from China. Details hidden by commie media and frauci. Virus magically escapes in the middle of a trade dispute

China virus or Wuhan flu?

You're looking at this wrong. What else was going on at the same time? Aliens, thats what. Covid-19 is a biological weapon we created to keep the alien invasion at bay. Just like in "War of the Worlds", our best weapon against them is germs. That's why gain of function research is so important. It's not just a coincidence that we announce the launching of spaceforce at the same time Covid-19 "escaped" the lab.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Have someone read this to you, knighttime.

The Wuhan Lab Leak Hypothesis Is A Conspiracy Theory, Not Science

Despite the enormous flood of recent reports, there's no good evidence for a lab leak.

www.forbes.com

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Cases and deaths are literally the lowest they’ve been in this country since last March. Little hint, it ain’t the HCQ or horse paste you were pushing a few weeks ago.

People are literally dieing and piling bodies in the streets in places like India and Brazil. America is literally the envy of the world because of our vaccines and proof that they’re working, and we’ve got lunatics like Boston pushing horse pastes. Man, what a world.

Boston most likely has you on ignore. This little beta has everyone on ignore who challenges all 67 of his IQ points.

 

[goodknightfl]

There is no doubt the Vaccines are working, Thank God Trump fast tracked the research and approval, and thank God Biden has pushed them out as fast as he did. Both of them deserve the credit.
That being said death rates were dropping because over the course of months we figured out how to better treat it.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Have someone read this to you, knighttime.

The Wuhan Lab Leak Hypothesis Is A Conspiracy Theory, Not Science

Despite the enormous flood of recent reports, there's no good evidence for a lab leak.

www.forbes.com

Careful or the Tennessee guy will get bigly mad.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

They have yet to find any evidence of an animal host. They have evidence of 3 lab workers getting sick after testing a lab created and super contagious virus...ah testing coronavirus...in the exact epicenter of the virus.

The Asian dude eating a raw bat that started covid is a bigger stretch considering they can't find the host...ah because it was a lab host.

I told you to have someone read this to you, chump. Get to steppin.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

What did Biden do to push them out faster? Almost everything was already in place and States organized with private business to get it available faster.

Biden wants 70% of the US population vaccinated by July 4th. Looking like a massive failure unless they really step up the free stuff game with the remaining.

Biden promises free beer and childcare if 70% of Americans get at least 1 vaccine shot before July 4

Biden plan includes private-sector incentives, a marketing blitz and pledges by pharmacies to offer 24-hour vaccine services on Fridays in June.

www.google.com

BDS. Seek help.

 

[sk8knight]

Have someone read this to you, knighttime.

The Wuhan Lab Leak Hypothesis Is A Conspiracy Theory, Not Science

Despite the enormous flood of recent reports, there's no good evidence for a lab leak.

www.forbes.com

It’s a compelling argument that is well-written and yet, if I had the time, I could write a very similar article using people that we work with at JHU, MIT, Ft Derrick, and ECBC that compellingly argues for the lab-created scenario. That’s what’s going to keep the theories going on this thing.

His last point is extremely disingenuous though. He says that all a researcher has to do is write a grant request to investigate the source and voila, they get to research. In reality, that grant has to be funded by a federal government that has actively shut down any conversation of a lab-created origin. They will most likely also need to show that China will allow such an investigation; something that China has imprisoned people to prevent. So about the only way that you’re going to change those two things are through public pressure. That public pressure needs to be significant and then you can get your grant money and you might get your China cooperation.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

It’s a compelling argument that is well-written and yet, if I had the time, I could write a very similar article using people that we work with at JHU, MIT, Ft Derrick, and ECBC that compellingly argues for the lab-created scenario.

That doesn't mean it would be correct. The South Park pandemic special makes more sense than most of these theories.

 

[sk8knight]

That doesn't mean it would be correct. The South Park pandemic special makes more sense than most of these theories.

What I’m saying is the direct evidence of a natural host that is normally well in hand by now hasn’t been found either and there’s been a concerted effort to do so. Without that in hand, theories will run rampant. You believe in the natural theory and you could be right. I know a number of people that know far more that you or I that believe a lab origin is as likely as a natural origin. In the end, I don’t think we’ll ever find out.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

What I’m saying is the direct evidence of a natural host that is normally well in hand by now hasn’t been found either and there’s been a concerted effort to do so. Without that in hand, theories will run rampant. You believe in the natural theory and you could be right. I know a number of people that know far more that you or I that believe a lab origin is as likely as a natural origin. In the end, I don’t think we’ll ever find out.

The natural theory, quite simply, is an Occam's Razor. This also explains things a bit: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

As well as this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7396141/

 

[DaShuckster]

What did Biden do to push them out faster?

 

[sk8knight]

The natural theory, quite simply, is an Occam's Razor. This also explains things a bit: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

As well as this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7396141/

I can go either way on this but I do have some issues with the first article. It pushes some thoughts as strong evidence that are really assumptions on the author’s behalf.

1) I know for a fact that the Chinese (and a lot of militaries) are smart enough to that they use imperfect attacks in a number of venues (bio, electronic warfare, etc) so as to not be instantly identifiable as a military attack and thus trigger active countermeasures. So saying that an imperfect binder with human receptors is strong evidence of natural origin is a dangerous statement.

2) They claim that it would show a lineage from one of 20 existing lab sequences if it is a grown or military tool. But if it was military, it is highly likely that we would not know about it because those sequences would be protected and not available to foreign doctors.

3) Their conclusions are inconclusive and support what I’m saying. The Chinese have destroyed or actively obstructed research into the origins so we will never know. These authors are making assumptions to get to your Occam’s Razor but it isn’t that simple, especially when the Chinese government has been so active in obscuring the provenance. If you want to consider Occam’s Razor, you must include their actions in your decision.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

I can go either way on this but I do have some issues with the first article. It pushes some thoughts as strong evidence that are really assumptions on the author’s behalf.

1) I know for a fact that the Chinese (and a lot of militaries) are smart enough to that they use imperfect attacks in a number of venues (bio, electronic warfare, etc) so as to not be instantly identifiable as a military attack and thus trigger active countermeasures. So saying that an imperfect binder with human receptors is strong evidence of natural origin is a dangerous statement.

2) They claim that it would show a lineage from one of 20 existing lab sequences if it is a grown or military tool. But if it was military, it is highly likely that we would not know about it because those sequences would be protected and not available to foreign doctors.

3) Their conclusions are inconclusive and support what I’m saying. The Chinese have destroyed or actively obstructed research into the origins so we will never know. These authors are making assumptions to get to your Occam’s Razor but it isn’t that simple, especially when the Chinese government has been so active in obscuring the provenance. If you want to consider Occam’s Razor, you must include their actions in your decision.

In the absence of 100% verifiable data points, a logical step in rhetoric isn't exactly as simplistic as an assumption. And inconclusive? That's what you drew from all of this? Ok...

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

I'm pretty impressed you review Forbes to know if the covid outbreak was a lab leak. What a dummy. That is like looking at ESPN for building codes. Your 80 year old boy friend Fraudci seemed to think a lab leak was likely in emails discovered and from the last hearing.

I cited two further articles past that in this very thread if you were able to read, you stupid shit.

I really wonder how you are able to function through simple daily activities on your own. Or are you?

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Fauci was warned that COVID-19 may have been ‘engineered,’ emails show

Dr. Anthony Fauci was warned that the coronavirus had possibly been “engineered” and appeared to be taking reports about it seriously.

nypost.com

Yes, this has been addressed: Andersen and his team subsequently published an article in the peer-reviewed journal Nature Medicine where they wrote that they did not "believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible." So which is it? They played both sides to get published.

Anything else, Corky?

 

[Crazyhole]

Yes, this has been addressed: Andersen and his team subsequently published an article in the peer-reviewed journal Nature Medicine where they wrote that they did not "believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible." So which is it? They played both sides to get published.

Anything else, Corky?

IMO, it just doesn't pass the sniff test. Maybe if there wasn't a lab right there that was experimenting on Sars-1 I could buy that it came from a wet market. Then with all of the scientists that have come out and said that this looks like it was engineered in a lab, it doesn't seem like a stretch to put 2 and 2 together.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

IMO, it just doesn't pass the sniff test. Maybe if there wasn't a lab right there that was experimenting on Sars-1 I could buy that it came from a wet market. Then with all of the scientists that have come out and said that this looks like it was engineered in a lab, it doesn't seem like a stretch to put 2 and 2 together.

If an investigation or other type of definitive research shows that there is a clear-cut engineered virus, I will gladly accept those results. I'm not going to give in to innuendo, stretches, or conspiracy theories that this was all done to get Donald out of office, however.

 

[Crazyhole]

If an investigation or other type of definitive research shows that there is a clear-cut engineered virus, I will gladly accept those results. I'm not going to give in to innuendo, stretches, or conspiracy theories that this was all done to get Donald out of office, however.

That stuff is just silliness. I'm just talking about the origin, not the motives.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Lol @ joe thinking these cult members care about facts or logic.

You are "debating" with rocks.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Cases and deaths are literally the lowest they’ve been in this country since last March. Little hint, it ain’t the HCQ or horse paste you were pushing a few weeks ago.

People are literally dieing and piling bodies in the streets in places like India and Brazil. America is literally the envy of the world because of our vaccines and proof that they’re working, and we’ve got lunatics like Boston pushing horse pastes. Man, what a world.

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[DaShuckster]

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