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Crook impregnates a playmate and then trades $1B gvmt contracts to fall guy who paid the hush money.

If Trump was the one who impregnated the playmate and the wealthy donor paid for the cover up can someone tell me how this is different than John Edwards?
 
fried-chicken said:
If Trump was the one who impregnated the playmate and the wealthy donor paid for the cover up can someone tell me how this is different than John Edwards?
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Edwards admitted to using campaign funds. Trump allegedly did not.

However ... if Trump was still required to disclose personal funds, and did not, then he might be found guilty of something else. That's the only law I've heard of that he might have broken. If he had to account for all expenditures, including personal funds, even petty cash.

EweSeaEff said:
In before the "But, what about Bill Clinton????!!!111" crowd.
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Actually, that was more Hillary's department. No, I'm not kidding. She was the one that 'handled' the accusers.

Bill Clinton himself was just found guilty of lying to a grand jury about porking an intern, not that he actually committed sexual harassment or extortion of sacking a young intern. We didn't care about the latter back then ... if one was a Democratic party member.

In fact, one could argue #metoo didn't really pick-up until Hillary lost in 2016 ... for a reason.
 
If only there was some simple forms that could be released by an individual showing their financial situation as reported to the IRS. There could be a tradition, going back 40 years to Nixon of presidents releasing this information.
 
NinjaKnight said:
If only there was some simple forms that could be released by an individual showing their financial situation as reported to the IRS. There could be a tradition, going back 40 years to Nixon of presidents releasing this information.
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That actually doesn't disclose everything, despite what the MSM says.

This is something else.
 
UCFBS said:
That actually doesn't disclose everything, despite what the MSM says.

This is something else.
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kindly STFU with the "MSM sheeple" comments, thanks

And it might not disclose exactly who paid what, but it certainly wouldn't hurt finding out the truth.
 
NinjaKnight said:
kindly STFU with the "MSM sheeple" comments, thanks
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^^^ This is why you get made fun of.

Fact: Tax returns ...
  • Do not detail any campaign finance, and ...
  • Have nothing to do with personal finance or cash flow
So Trump releasing his tax returns would disclose neither whether he used campaign funds or personal funds to pay his lawyer.

NinjaKnight said:
And it might not disclose exactly who paid what, but it certainly wouldn't hurt finding out the truth.
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Truth about what? Something that has nothing to do with this entire thread?

This is why we Libertarians easily destroy MSM spewing folk in every debate. Fish in a barrel.
 
UCFBS said:
Edwards admitted to using campaign funds. Trump allegedly did not.

However ... if Trump was still required to disclose personal funds, and did not, then he might be found guilty of something else. That's the only law I've heard of that he might have broken. If he had to account for all expenditures, including personal funds, even petty cash.

Actually, that was more Hillary's department. No, I'm not kidding. She was the one that 'handled' the accusers.

Bill Clinton himself was just found guilty of lying to a grand jury about porking an intern, not that he actually committed sexual harassment or extortion of sacking a young intern. We didn't care about the latter back then ... if one was a Democratic party member.

In fact, one could argue #metoo didn't really pick-up until Hillary lost in 2016 ... for a reason.
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They were payments made to the woman from a wealthy donor that the FEC classified as a campaign donation. It wasn't actually from the campaign. If it was from the campaign it would have been ok to pay someone off. The problem was that the amount paid was substantially higher than the individual donation limit.

That's the same thing this article is speculating.
 
UCFBS said:
^^^ This is why you get made fun of.

Fact: Tax returns ...
  • Do not detail any campaign finance, and ...
  • Have nothing to do with personal finance or cash flow
So Trump releasing his tax returns would disclose neither whether he used campaign funds or personal funds to pay his lawyer.

Truth about what? Something that has nothing to do with this entire thread?

This is why we Libertarians easily destroy MSM spewing folk in every debate. Fish in a barrel.
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ok Milton.

I can tell you are 100% full of shit based on your second bullet. Nothing to do with personal finance? Ok. Back to ignoring you.
 
NinjaKnight said:
ok Milton.
I can tell you are 100% full of shit based on your second bullet. Nothing to do with personal finance? Ok. Back to ignoring you.
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So where on Trump's tax return would it be itemized how much Trump paid for legal services and for what reasons?

This is why we make fun of you. Whenever there is detail, you literally zone out. And that's why you cannot make a joke that lands ... you totally miss the facts!
 
fried-chicken said:
Not Obama. Loved his family
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Obama was the best family man President we've had since the early '90s. However ...

fried-chicken said:
fixed America
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No ...
  • mortgaged America 3x over what Reagan/Bush/Clinton did
    (still going on with Trump too, started with W.)
  • balooned federal 'watch lists' by classifying virtually all Americans as 'militia'
    (and it's exceedingly difficult to get off of)
  • ensured endless war by violating the War Powers Act
    (first President to do so)
  • 'moral authority' drones, so much so he even feared Romney with the same
    (if Romney shouldn't have had the power, then Obama shouldn't have either)
  • jailed reporters, now the 2nd time the Democrats have done so
    (along with '06)
Sorry, no.

fried-chicken said:
killed Bin Laden
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Only because, unlike during Clinton in the late '90s, Bin Laden didn't move. Obama 'hesitated' on Bin Laden, just like Clinton did -- and for over 3 months. But Bin Laden stupidly thought he was 'safer' this time.

Had Bin Laden built a 2nd 'safe house' as a backup, we might have lost him again, like we did in Afghanistan. But he didn't. We got lucky. The CIA wanted to take him out 3 months earlier.

fried-chicken said:
rode off into sunset.
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Like a prince, taking trips gifted by others.
 
UCFBS said:
Obama was the best family man President we've had since the early '90s. However ...

No ...
  • mortgaged America 3x over what Reagan/Bush/Clinton did
    (still going on with Trump too, started with W.)
  • balooned federal 'watch lists' by classifying virtually all Americans as 'militia'
    (and it's exceedingly difficult to get off of)
  • ensured endless war by violating the War Powers Act
    (first President to do so)
  • 'moral authority' drones, so much so he even feared Romney with the same
    (if Romney shouldn't have had the power, then Obama shouldn't have either)
  • jailed reporters, now the 2nd time the Democrats have done so
    (along with '06)
Sorry, no.

Only because, unlike during Clinton in the late '90s, Bin Laden didn't move. Obama 'hesitated' on Bin Laden, just like Clinton did -- and for over 3 months. But Bin Laden stupidly thought he was 'safer' this time.

Had Bin Laden built a 2nd 'safe house' as a backup, we might have lost him again, like we did in Afghanistan. But he didn't. We got lucky. The CIA wanted to take him out 3 months earlier.

Like a prince, taking trips gifted by others.
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The only thing you're disputing is fixed America and there is no disputing that 2016 USA was better in almost every single measure than 2008-2009 USA.

We don't have to agree with every policy but America was never at risk under Obama. Things were easy street. The biggest news of like 6 whole months was about a gay wedding cake. That shit wouldn't even make the front page for a day today.
 
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fried-chicken said:
The only thing you're disputing is fixed America and there is no disputing that 2016 USA was better in almost every single measure than 2008-2009 USA.
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Anyone can fix any country with US$1T/year deficit!!!

Sigh ... people need to realize what the Tea Party was trying to point out ... the original Tea Party of 2004+ (not the Obama-era Tea Party).

fried-chicken said:
We don't have to agree with every policy
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Yeah, f' the 1st Amendment, right to due process and let's send more money to the same entity that can declare endless war. Seriously dude?

And we Libertarians thought W. was a civil rights nightmare! Other than addressing police brutality, the Obama administration will go down in history as one of the most anti-civil rights administrations of the 21st century (along with W. and Trump)!

fried-chicken said:
but America was never at risk under Obama.
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Even Obama himself disputes that!

E.g., Obama admitted his foreign policy of 2009-2013 was dead wrong, and he put the US and NATO at great risk.

That said, most Americans prefer isolationism, so Obama wasn't exactly 'wrong' in that regard.

Of course, letting the Russians sell and deploy S-400 everywhere while the US withheld THAAD from our allies did look pretty stupid. Especially after North Korea showcased how they could hit virtually all of our allies ... then us.

But at least he admitted it, especially after his own GAO lambasted him on missile defense.

fried-chicken said:
Things were easy street. The biggest news of like 6 whole months was about a gay wedding cake. That shit wouldn't even make the front page for a day today.
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Huh? Apparently you've been reading the 'happy happy, joy joy" section of the MSM 'edible' brownie.

Civil rights took a nose dive under Obama. Heck, Obama wasn't even pro-marriage equality when he ran in 2008, and didn't change until re-election time, when the 'polls' changed to pro-marriage equality. So, just like Clinton, he followed MSM public opinion polls.

At least us true Liberals and Libertarians have been pro-marriage equality since before Clinton's DOMA.
 
The Branch said:
Not to mention all the Russia stuff was happening on their watch.
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Come on now. Obama tried to stop that when he found out and Mitch and Paul wouldn't let him go public without making it political which it ended up being anyway. The public should have been informed that the news they were consuming was produced in Russia.
 
fried-chicken said:
Come on now. Obama tried to stop that when he found out and Mitch and Paul wouldn't let him go public without making it political which it ended up being anyway. The public should have been informed that the news they were consuming was produced in Russia.
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BS ... and you know it.

The Russians hacked the DNC ... and the DNC was so worried about letting all of their crooked "pro Hillary" stuff get loose in the public, they basically refused to let anybody investigate it. All of the bots on facebook, which by the way, were going both ways trying to disrupt the system were there for the taking. Obama was never interested in that crap until after they started using it to bash Trump.
 
The Branch said:
BS ... and you know it.

The Russians hacked the DNC ... and the DNC was so worried about letting all of their crooked "pro Hillary" stuff get loose in the public, they basically refused to let anybody investigate it. All of the bots on facebook, which by the way, were going both ways trying to disrupt the system were there for the taking. Obama was never interested in that crap until after they started using it to bash Trump.
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False
 
The Branch said:
BS ... and you know it.

The Russians hacked the DNC ... and the DNC was so worried about letting all of their crooked "pro Hillary" stuff get loose in the public, they basically refused to let anybody investigate it. All of the bots on facebook, which by the way, were going both ways trying to disrupt the system were there for the taking. Obama was never interested in that crap until after they started using it to bash Trump.
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Correct. Democrats have pathetically pushed this total fabrication because they’re butthurt losers who can’t take losing an election
 
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Oh no. Looks like the account that made the payment to the porn star Donald Trump raw dogged had some other "activity" including 500k wired in from a Russian Oligarch.

Dis gon b gud
 
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Guy who cries and whines about Sean Hannity pushes conspiracy theory from Maddow.

LMAO
 
ATT confirms payments they reportedly made to the Cohen LLC are accurate.

Final payment came same month FCC killed net neutrality.

I don't want to say Trump sold out net neutrality for a couple hundred grand but it sure is a major coincidence.
 
fried-chicken said:
ATT confirms payments they reportedly made to the Cohen LLC are accurate.

Final payment came same month FCC killed net neutrality.

I don't want to say Trump sold out net neutrality for a couple hundred grand but it sure is a major coincidence.
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This is exactly why we must investigate the Clinton Foundation...too much coincidence going on.
 
btbones said:
While I didn’t agree with his policies in general , I’ve ajwsys said and always will say that Obama was a good man , a good family man that always wanted to do good .
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He was a good family man. I dispute the last part. This is a guy who mandated a lie on a national scale to pass his health care bill. This is a guy who empowered and enriched the largest terrorist organization in the Middle East by protecting their drug trade, in order to get the Iranians to like him and agree to his crap deal.
 
A shell company that Michael D. Cohen used to pay hush money to a pornographic film actress received payments totaling more than $1 million from an American company linked to a Russian oligarch and several corporations with business before the Trump administration, according to documents and interviews.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/us/politics/michael-cohen-shell-company-payments.html

Please 85, tell us more in your totally bipartisan tone about how this is just a conspiracy theory.
 
NinjaKnight said:
A shell company that Michael D. Cohen used to pay hush money to a pornographic film actress received payments totaling more than $1 million from an American company linked to a Russian oligarch and several corporations with business before the Trump administration, according to documents and interviews.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/us/politics/michael-cohen-shell-company-payments.html

Please 85, tell us more in your totally bipartisan tone about how this is just a conspiracy theory.
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Looks like shit is about to get real. At least, it will be in about 6 years after they finish the investigation. SMH.

Hopefully this goes to show that the investigation is legitimate. Politically motivated or not, the investigation is going to find that crimes were committed by either Trump or his surrogates.
 
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