Do we want UH to beat OU?

[UCFGrad05]

Good for the AAC, yes. But puts them on the "see, we can compete already - give us a bid" train, right?

Unless beating OU scares the heck out of OU, TX, etc.. and they choose not to pick a team that can already make noise?

Short of it is this: I am having a tough time deciding who to cheer for in that game! haha.

 

[KnightsAreForReal]

If all the schools were committed to the AAC then sure, but that's not the case. About half the schools in our conference consider the AAC a stepping stone to a P5 conference. So what's the point of making it look stronger? We want out just as bad, so why root for our competition to make that decision more difficult?

 

[C-MontCityKnight2]

Yes!! Oklahoma was already complaining about another Texas school hurting their recruiting. I think if Houston wins it will only cause the non-texas schools to campaign that much harder against them.

 

[UCFProf]

Ideal scenario. Houston starts strong and even takes the lead at or near the half. Then they fold with immature penalties and act classless while getting beaten. That will turn off the Big 12. No wait -- that's the way Baylor played against us. They may love teams that play that way.

 

[Central Floridave]

Go Cougars!

 

[UCFJuggernaut]

If the University Presidents look solely at what is happening this very second they are not doing themselves any favors. They need to be looking in the future at academics, all sports, fans, graduation rates, TV Market, and potential $$ addition to the conference. They should not care if Houston beats OU, or that we beat Baylor.

 

[UCFProf]

If the University Presidents look solely at what is happening this very second they are not doing themselves any favors. They need to be looking in the future at academics, all sports, fans, graduation rates, TV Market, and potential $$ addition to the conference. They should not care if Houston beats OU, or that we beat Baylor.

Fortunately, they look at UH's weak attendance. Unfortunately, they see recent big donation.

 

[mattropolis]

Yes. Every time a G5 plays a P5, you should root for the underdog. Every time a g5 bests a p5 it gives us legitimacy. When we don't win they just mock us and make fun of us.

 

[pittstoner74]

Do WE? I don't know. I do.

 

[KNIGHTTIME^]

Rooting for Oklahoma to smash them. There is no unity in the AAC. The last thing we need is Houston making another big run. We are fighting for a Big 12 slot here.

 

[bignow]

OU will win by double digits and the houston high school dream is over

 

[80'sKnight]

Just one question- does Boise St winning ever make Utah St, San Jose St, or heck even U Mass look good? If Houston wins, it only makes Houston look good. There's no reflective glory in the G5. When we won the Fiesta, usf wasn't shining in the background.

For example, if the shine did reflect to others than the NCAA fan obviously would know about N. Dakota St and how successful they've been beating FBS teams. But, can you name the FCS teams that have beaten them, without looking it up? If so, an if it's common knowledge then I guess there is reflective glory.

 

[UCFProf]

Just one question- does Boise St winning ever make Utah St, San Jose St, or heck even U Mass look good? If Houston wins, it only makes Houston look good. There's no reflective glory in the G5. When we won the Fiesta, usf wasn't shining in the background.

Worse yet, it makes the Big 12 -- the only conference with some likelihood of choosing us -- look marginally worse in the only dimension they excel in lately: being among the strongest P-5 conferences in both football and basketball, the revenue sports.
Oh, and the current line one week before the game is OU favored by 10.

 

[firm_bizzle]

Yes.

 

[UCFhonors]

Yep. We want Houston to win. I have a week sig bet against a Sooner. It's straight up.

We always want P5s to lose. Perception is holding cfb from having a legit playoffs. Winning changes that.

 

[UCFProf]

Guess what happens when P-5 schools have seasons worse than rich alums expected? The raid our conference for winning coaches -- and they'll pay him whatever it takes. We have but two functions for them: (1) the minor leagues for their future coaches to hone their skills and prove their worth, and (2) to serve as patsies for their OOC home games. Last time I checked, even the MAC win's almost half the time when they get a Big 10 team at their stadiums; but the MAC teams lost 83% of the time when playing at Big 10 stadiums (where most games are played).

 

[jetsaholic]

#FukcHouston

 

[rizbull1]

Yes

 

[SublimeKnight]

Yep. We want Houston to win. I have a week sig bet against a Sooner. It's straight up.

We always want P5s to lose. Perception is holding cfb from having a legit playoffs. Winning changes that.

Winning won't change anything, ESPN has 65 teams to weave a narrative that protects their investment. If UH beats OU, the story is:
A) OU is having a surprising bad year, couldn't live up to hype
B) They weren't ready for season opener

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Good for the AAC, yes. But puts them on the "see, we can compete already - give us a bid" train, right?

Unless beating OU scares the heck out of OU, TX, etc.. and they choose not to pick a team that can already make noise?

Short of it is this: I am having a tough time deciding who to cheer for in that game! haha.

excellent question
Normally that answer is a YES.

 

[pittstoner74]

Does Houston beating Oklahoma help us week 1? No but it does if we face them later in year and we are both ranked. Then we beat them. Helps SOS.

 

[UCFProf]

Does Houston beating Oklahoma help us week 1? No but it does if we face them later in year and we are both ranked. Then we beat them. Helps SOS.

If it gets Houston nearer the top 10, that could be good. We have the only non-P-5 college ranked at all in pre-season poll. These polls are not "worthless." They are a major edge for schools with perennial ranking on rep alone (this year, it's Notre Dame). If you start out unranked, you have to swing voters over to you. If you are ranked already, you merely need to hold onto them and not lose in order to rise even further. It's the biggest biasing factor in the whole system, and pundits are finally agreeing we should do away with preseason polling.

 

[UCFhonors]

Winning won't change anything, ESPN has 65 teams to weave a narrative that protects their investment. If UH beats OU, the story is:
A) OU is having a surprising bad year, couldn't live up to hype
B) They weren't ready for season opener

People get that ESPN is full of shit and P5 losing makes that clearer.

Besides who doesn't want to play a higher ranked Houston? Can't believe this is even a question. Sounds like a bunch of noobz around here.

 

[80'sKnight]

People get that ESPN is full of shit and P5 losing makes that clearer.

Besides who doesn't want to play a higher ranked Houston? Can't believe this is even a question. Sounds like a bunch of noobz around here.

Sounds more like there are a bunch of schizophrenics around here thinking in 1 post were going to have a 5 or worse win season, and in another thinking we're going to beat Houston. Reality- Houston beats Okla. see they're good, then Houston beats UCF, see UCF isn't ready for P5. Houston winning week 1 does nothing for anyone else, other than Houston. You guys are delusional. A 5 win season with 1 win against a Houston team that beat Okla.- meaningless for both us and Houston (they just weren't good enough). The only way it matter is if they win and we have an incredible season, a Fiesta Bowl season. Anyone predicting that?

 

[pittstoner74]

Sounds more like there are a bunch of schizophrenics around here thinking in 1 post were going to have a 5 or worse win season, and in another thinking we're going to beat Houston. Reality- Houston beats Okla. see they're good, then Houston beats UCF, see UCF isn't ready for P5. Houston winning week 1 does nothing for anyone else, other than Houston. You guys are delusional. A 5 win season with 1 win against a Houston team that beat Okla.- meaningless for both us and Houston (they just weren't good enough). The only way it matter is if they win and we have an incredible season, a Fiesta Bowl season. Anyone predicting that?

I'll go ahead and predict it. If I'm wrong, no one remembers and if I'm right I'll make sure everyone sees it.

 

[UCFhonors]

Sounds more like there are a bunch of schizophrenics around here thinking in 1 post were going to have a 5 or worse win season, and in another thinking we're going to beat Houston. Reality- Houston beats Okla. see they're good, then Houston beats UCF, see UCF isn't ready for P5. Houston winning week 1 does nothing for anyone else, other than Houston. You guys are delusional. A 5 win season with 1 win against a Houston team that beat Okla.- meaningless for both us and Houston (they just weren't good enough). The only way it matter is if they win and we have an incredible season, a Fiesta Bowl season. Anyone predicting that?

I think anyone can beat anyone. So, yes. It's reasonable to think it's possible for us to win 5 games with one of them being Houston who beats Oklahoma.

But I like that you are using logic.

 

[Central Floridave]

Tom Herman, UH have a lot riding on opener with OU
By Brian T. Smith

August 29, 2016

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spo...ve-a-lot-riding-on-opener-with-OU-9191633.php