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Excellent article by Bianchi regarding Brent Key & GOL and UCF in the slant!

This article is spot on. Key is not cut out to be an OC, but from what I've heard about him, he sounds like he might be a great HC. GOL may have sealed Key's fate though by making him OC. I don't see how you promote the OC for the worst offense in college football, mostly due to the worst o-line play in all of college football (the unit he was responsible for before becoming OC).
I can see this playing out where Key becomes a position coach for a P5 school after this and goes on to be a successful HC somewhere other than UCF. OC is obviously not his forte though.
 
I didn't quite call him a mastermind. but sure as heck coach K was more exciting than run, run, pass (fail), punt, repeat.

He was a really great 1-AA offensive coordinator. He did a lot with a little. He did it by spreading it around when others were not doing that. If he was really as good as you say he would have landed somewhere else by now.
 
I think Bianchi hit it on the head though. Having Key as the OC was not good. But that is hindsight. You wont know until you give someone the chance. The great Brent Key experiment seems to be a fail
 
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Bianchi's article is spot on, and is exactly how I have witnessed this season implode. Charlie Taaffe was a great OC and play caller. Plus he could help ease the nerves of these young QB's
 
I think Bianchi hit it on the head though. Having Key as the OC was not good. But that is hindsight. You wont know until you give someone the chance. The great Brent Key experiment seems to be a fail
Miserably. Who should take the blame? I say the players.
 
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Why does there need to be blame? you make a decision and you live by it. sometimes it works and other times it does not. I remember people calling for Charlie Taafe's job in 2011. But luckily he was retained. Now that he is gone he is a hero
This is what scares me (bolded).

I hate the playcalling too. But we're really in a "perfect storm" at the same time.
  • 3rd youngest roster before we lost anyone
  • Aggregate of over 2 dozen (24+) games missed by starters, and
  • Over twenty (20+) freshmen have had serious game time
The last 2 are #1 in all of the NCAA ... which is destructive when you're already the 3rd youngest roster.

So while I really dislike the results of coaching right now ... I still have to recognize that it could be really simple. Key is literally having learning and execution issues with the combination of experience and talent he has to work with, and that's why we're seeing some simplified, even cringing, repeats of non-sense. Because he has little other choice.

Every time we seem to open up the playbook, there's a 75% chance we'll have a turnover.

Which is why I still want to give Key close to the full season. But if we're 0-10 heading into the ECU game, I'll be calling for him to be replaced, and hope to see it before the USF game if we're 0-11. Especially if Holman comes back in the next week or two and has the chance for 3-4 Ws.
 
Why does there need to be blame? you make a decision and you live by it. sometimes it works and other times it does not. I remember people calling for Charlie Taafe's job in 2011. But luckily he was retained. Now that he is gone he is a hero

Someone is always to blame for disaster. I see that you are the kind of person who doesn't believe in accountability.
 
Someone is always to blame for disaster. I see that you are the kind of person who doesn't believe in accountability.
And you guys are the people who want to fire someone 2-4 weeks after you hire them. You honestly don't know what someone is or isn't capable of until you give them at least 90-180 days.

Especially when they enter under circumstances that are limiting, and only get worse.
 
He was a really great 1-AA offensive coordinator. He did a lot with a little. He did it by spreading it around when others were not doing that. If he was really as good as you say he would have landed somewhere else by now.

Didn't say he was good. He was more EXCITING to watch. If we're going to lose, I rather it'd be at least an exciting game!
 
Didn't say he was good. He was more EXCITING to watch. If we're going to lose, I rather it'd be at least an exciting game!
Bring back Coach K. He was far, far more exciting than GoL. Honestly, I'm being 100% truthful. He was.

GoL is extremely boring in comparison. He's ball control. He's defense oriented. I mean ... we a top 10 D, and a bottom half O, in good years.

This is why I don't think many of you are being realistic, even if you end up being 100% correct in GoL-Key leading us right into another 17 game losing streak.
 
And you guys are the people who want to fire someone 2-4 weeks after you hire them. You honestly don't know what someone is or isn't capable of until you give them at least 90-180 days.

Especially when they enter under circumstances that are limiting, and only get worse.

After 90 days you are paying unemployment so you better evaluate fast.
 
After 90 days you are paying unemployment so you better evaluate fast.
Yes, but you still give them at least up to just before that 90 days. You don't fire them after a couple of weeks.

But 6 month contractors are what I deal with the most. Unless they are a legal liability, or someone falsified their credentials, they've got their 6 months.
 
I believe that the fact that after a year and a half we find ourselves arguing amongst each other about on field results rather than what color helmet we should wear is a very telling sign. I'm afraid this will take years to fix. Years.
 
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I believe that the fact that after a year and a half we find ourselves arguing amongst each other about on field results rather than what color helmet we should wear is a very telling sign. I'm afraid this will take years to fix. Years.
And if we change everything now? What guarantee do we have we don't make it worse?

If we're sucking bad through several games next year, regardless of whether Key is let go or moved from the OC this year, I'll be all for GoL getting canned. He's never had back-to-back losing seasons, which is usually what gets coaches fired (other than constant mediocrity after 3-4 years).

But I'm still scared about what kind of message you guys would send to a new coach by firing a coach just a couple of games after 3 straight divisional or conference championships (and 4 out of the last 5).
 
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Are you referring to his top-notch 36-30 overall record, or his 8-6 conference record?
And that's the thing. GoL could have a median 8-4 record (6-2 in-conference) at UCF ... say starting from 2007 on-ward (most kids recruited under his tenure), and people will still hate his system. They want innovative offenses like Coach K was brilliant at.

The idea of wearing down teams and controlling the clock is boring to them.
 
Kruczek had a fun game plan. He just didnt know how to control the clock so in that sense he was a decent head coach if you wanted a shoot out. Im still surprised he couldnt score more than 6 points with Daunte Culpepper on his team against a bad Auburn. I remember they had a good defense, but its games like that your player needs to take control.
 
Didn't say he was good. He was more EXCITING to watch. If we're going to lose, I rather it'd be at least an exciting game!
There was nothing very exciting about watching the team regularly implode in the 3rd or 4th quarter of most games....especially out-of-conference games. He's so innovative and cutting edge that he is coaching high school ball at Trinity Prep. Not ragging on the gig because coaching high school kids is an admirable job but from a career perspective a guy that was once a head coach at the college level, and a coordinstor in the NFL, doesn't tell me his talents are in high demand.
 
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There was nothing very exciting about watching the team regularly implode in the 3rd or 4th quarter of most games....especially out-of-conference games. He's so innovative and cutting edge that he is coaching high school ball at Trinity Prep. Not ragging on the gig because coaching high school kids is an admirable job but from a career perspective a guy that was once a head coach at the college level, and a coordinstor in the NFL, doesn't tell me his talents are in high demand.

While I agree with you, I'd rather have him at OC than Key or Salem, any day.
 
This is what scares me (bolded).

So while I really dislike the results of coaching right now ... I still have to recognize that it could be really simple. Key is literally having learning and execution issues with the combination of experience and talent he has to work with, and that's why we're seeing some simplified, even cringing, repeats of non-sense. Because he has little other choice.

Every time we seem to open up the playbook, there's a 75% chance we'll have a turnover.

And there lies the biggest problem for guys who want this throw it everywhere, and chuck it down field idea. Fact is these guys are so young, that wed turn the ball over 3 times each half we just opened everything up. But I get it, it's better to try and do something than to sit there and lose. But the coaches are playing to the best of the players, which right now isn't much. It's sad, unfortunate, and tiresome, but if we open up this playbook and throw it around, I see it being much much worse.
 
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GOLs biggest mistake was assigning him a position like coordinator. He shouldve given him a title like associate head coach/coordinator or executive coordinator in addition to Offensive line coach. That basically means he's the coach with GOL having the final say if needed.
 
And if we change everything now? What guarantee do we have we don't make it worse?

If we're sucking bad through several games next year, regardless of whether Key is let go or moved from the OC this year, I'll be all for GoL getting canned. He's never had back-to-back losing seasons, which is usually what gets coaches fired (other than constant mediocrity after 3-4 years).

But I'm still scared about what kind of message you guys would send to a new coach by firing a coach just a couple of games after 3 straight divisional or conference championships (and 4 out of the last 5).
The guarantee is the guarantee to stay as-is and continue being Mediocre. We cannot turn the corner with GOL. It's been proven.
 
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Kruz had no facilities, etc. I understand he was not a good head coach and went downhill. but, he was an excellent OC, when he was an OC.
Kruz had no facilites, little budget, but couldnt game plan and end up in shootouts where our athletes wear out.

GOL had facilities, a bigger budget, paid almost 2 mil, could ball control but only won 25 percent of his games against teams in conferences we grovel to join.
 
Kruz had no facilities, etc. I understand he was not a good head coach and went downhill. but, he was an excellent OC, when he was an OC.

The Wikipedia tells me that Kruz will have a better winning percentage than GOL in 3 more games.

Current stats:
Krucez's winning percentage with no facilities at UCF: 54.54%
O'Leary's winning percentage with tons of facilities at UCF: 55.48%
 
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The Wikipedia tells me that Kruz will have a better winning percentage than GOL in 3 more games.

Current stats:
Krucez's winning percentage with no facilities at UCF: 54..54%
O'Leary's winning percentage with tons of facilities at UCF: 55.48%

and yet he is treated like Saban by some UCF fans.

I bet a new coach that isn't Key(Durkin, Shannon, Pruitt, Cristobal) could pull in a top 45 Recruiting class in his first cycle at UCF
 
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