F*** Scott Frost
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I'd take the money too. But I don't believe that story about being so distraught over the decision. And the red shirt just rubbed it in our faces.
Seriously. What was the point of wearing red instead of black, gold, white or grey?
Disagree 100%.
I believe many, once Nebraska's AD inquired about your interest and IF Neb AD wanted to meet at the UCF Hotel in Philly the Night before the Temple Game...most would have asked DW prior for permission (and/or asked for a preferred time to meet with Nebraska...which probably wouldn't have been the night before a game when meetings/final prep is going on).
Instead, Frost met in secret in Philly, accepted the job that night in Philly, without even having the decency to notify DW in advance...yes, the guy that GAVE HIM his chance to make $35 Million over 7 years.
So no...majority of haters (or even those that liked him) would NOT have done the same exact thing, the same exact way as he did.
1 year later the UCF Knights remain undefeated with a BETTER coach and NGEbraska???
Well.... they went 4-8. Again!!
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Totally agree. He handled it poorly. Should have been upfront and just said it’s my alma mater dream job.
But money is also a factor. Don’t like when people act like coaches shouldn’t/don’t. consider it. If I offer you 5 times your salary to go do your same job at a different company you’d be crazy not to take it.
I was so mad when I heard he left before I left the stadium that day. But in hindsight, eff him, we’re fine and he’s 4-8 in Nebraska with a lot of money.
it wasn’t five times. With the FEF it was double at best
Correct, he would have made 3 million or nearly that without state taxes. More money than he could spend either way coaching 24/7
The guy lived in a 1.6 million dollar house in Winter Park, so obviously he already had money.
No he wasn’t. Tried to play both sides of the fence to make everybody happy. Said it was his dream job but also loved it here at UCF. Waffled forever. Said it was so tough for him. Even brought Wawa’s good name into it.
Pretty much a bitch move. Make a decision and live with it like a man.
He literally wrote an essay about his passion for Nebraska, you just never paid attention. Be thankful he put yall in the position he did.
Scott's Thoughts by Scott Frost
Sometimes I think that I care too much. I was in Lawrence on Saturday and I saw our guys go down in defeat at the hands of a team that we had beaten every year for almost four decades. I can’t tell you how hard it was to watch. Seeing Jayhawk fans yelling and jeering and storming the field made my stomach turn. Now in the wake of that loss I have been hearing all sorts of opinions about what is going wrong and what should be changed. Some of them make some sense and some are ridiculous. People everywhere I go are asking me for my views on the program. I certainly don’t have all of the answers, but I can offer you some of my feelings as a former player who has bled, sweat, thrown-up, cried, fought, been criticized, been vindicated, and been a part of a champion while wearing Husker red. I have concerns and a few problems with some of the things that have happened surrounding our beloved program. I have talked to a lot of other players and they have the same concerns. I cannot speak for any of them or for anyone else, but I think people would like to know how ex-players feel, and I think that my opinions probably reflect those of most of the guys who have been a part of Husker football.
Let me begin by reiterating that the reason so many of us are so frustrated is that we care so much. That concern is what sets Nebraska apart. I started my career at another institution where it is not nearly as rare to go five and six, and I’ve seen first hand how much more passion there is surrounding Husker football than almost every other program in the country. Sometimes I don’t think that some of the people in the program right now knew what they were getting themselves into when they signed up to come here. That leads me to my first major concern about what is happening at Memorial Stadium- the complete and intentional departure and detachment from anything that had to do with the way it was.
Let’s start with the people. We didn’t just get a new coaching staff two years ago, there was basically a house cleaning. So many of the people in South stadium who made Nebraska what it was either left or were forced to leave that many of us as former players do not even feel comfortable coming around the campus anymore. That’s a shame. It was commonplace when I was playing to have ex-players like Cory Schlessinger, Tyrone Williams, and Will Shields come to meetings or compete against us in passing league. Now, most guys don’t even know who to call if they want to watch a practice. I know they kept Coach Gill around when they brought in the new staff and he was a link to the past, but he moved on. Jimmy Williams and Marvin Sanders weren’t asked to return. Their excellent coaching abilities aside, it sure would be nice to have someone like them on the staff that is familiar with the traditions of Nebraska football.
It isn’t just university employees either, it’s also the players. When we won the national championship in 1997, nine out of our eleven starters on offense were from the state of Nebraska. We had a system in place that was able to organize and develop more athletes, therefore there were more players on a Nebraska practice field than most schools normally have. A great number of those players were walk-ons from the state of Nebraska who would give their heart and soul for the football team. Not only did that create a team that cared more about winning, it also made for a huge amount of caring and involvement throughout the state. When you live in a town like Funk, Nebraska, and you know Kyle Larson personally, it generates a sense of pride in our state for a program that could take boys from our own hometowns and develop them into players who could compete with and beat anyone. I’m all for going to California and Florida to recruit great players. Heaven knows we need guys like Marlon Lucky and Harrison Beck to make us better, but I also wish we wouldn’t stop making the effort to bring home-grown athletes along as Huskers.
If you want more proof about the complete overhaul of Nebraska football, look at some of the small things. Why after so many years did “Husker Power” fail to be a worthy slogan for our team? Now it’s “the power of red”. Why did the program where the coaches went to Lincoln, Omaha, and a town out west to show loyal fans the game film end? Talk about a way to help keep fans interested and loyal (fundraising!). Even Herbie Husker got an overhaul from blonde to brunette. It almost feels like anything that symbolizes or relates to the Huskers of Devaney, Osborne, and Solich was simply not good enough anymore.
That leads me to the next major concern that I have right now-its character. I’m not making this point to attack or demean anyone. I just know the kind of character that people throughout the program used to have. It all started with Tom Osborne. The man simply has more honor and integrity than anyone I have ever known. When he knew something was right, he did it. When he knew something was wrong, he always stayed away. I never once got cursed at by a Nebraska coach on the football field. Our coaches had a biblical devotional every morning before they started their meetings. Tom would never promise a recruit playing time, he would simply tell them that they would get a fair opportunity to show what they could do. The best complement that you could get from him is that you were “a pretty good player”. He’s the kind of guy that could lead a group of people to accomplish the absolute most that they were capable of accomplishing.
The character didn’t just end with Tom either. Ron Brown and Turner Gill are two of the best people I know. Milt Tenopir was like a father to most of the guys who played for him. The relationship that Charlie had with most of his guys, while slightly different, was wonderful. It was like a big family, and that environment made us all want to work harder and succeed that much more. We simply did things better and cleaner at the University of Nebraska than they did it anywhere else. There was an element of class about the program that was the envy of every other college football team.
I want to become a college football coach, and I plan on looking for a place to start a career in that field after this season is over. A few months ago I told Ron Brown that I wanted to coach. His advice to me was that if I was getting into coaching just to try to win games and be around football, then it wasn’t worth it. It would drive me crazy and the hours wouldn’t be justified. If I was going to coach on the other hand, with my primary goal being to try and impact the lives of the guys that you work with than the job could be more rewarding than almost anything else I could do. I’m paraphrasing a little bit, but you get the point. I really think that for most of the staff, winning was a goal that was secondary to shaping us as players into good men. I’m not saying things are different now, I don’t know. I would just hate to see us become like everybody else in college football. We have always been special, and I hope we always will be.
Building on that point, I would like to add this. It is not fair to be calling for the firing of any of our coaches right now. Everyone is entitled to their opinions about how things are going on the field, but we owe these guys a fair chance to get things turned around. If I was a coach that took over a program like Nebraska I would feel like I deserved at least three or four years to fully integrate my philosophies and tactics as a coach and leader. Granted there probably needs to be signs of improvement along the way, but it’s not fair to be talking about a change right now. It also doesn’t make sense to be firing so many arrows at the staff in the middle of the season. These guys have a job to do, and the fewer distractions they have, the better they will perform. On top of that, we don’t want the players feeling like they are in the midst of a firestorm. We don’t want them worried that they might have a new coach in a year or two or three. I have heard rumors that some of our vaunted freshmen are kicking around the idea of transferring. We can’t lose these kids. Whoever is coaching needs talented players. There is a time and a place for everything. If things haven’t improved by the end of the ’06 season then maybe people should voice their opinions on who is the right person to lead our program, but not right now. Now is the time that we should be supporting our team and our players so that they understand that they are a part of something special.
People always ask me what I think about the West Coast Offense. I simply say this. They are going to have to prove to me that it is the best way to win in Lincoln, Nebraska before I believe it. I’m not saying it can’t work. There are all sorts of different kinds of offensive systems that work in college football; everything from Utah’s spread offense to USC’s west coast, to Air Force’s option attack. If you have the right players and you coach your system well, most offenses can be successful. You can’t argue with the success that the WCO has had at both the collegiate and professional levels. It can work, but the jury is still out as to whether it will work here. On the other hand, I hear people arguing that a running and or option attack like the one we used to run is outdated and won’t work anymore. Let me tell you something- not that much has changed since the mid-nineties. The athletes are not that much bigger and stronger. Einstein didn’t come back to life and invent a defense that can stop a properly run belly option. Like I said, any system can work if you teach the right players the right way. That being said, there were reasons why Tom Osborne ran the system that he did (reference my blog from 9/14). You don’t have to throw the ball every down to win. You don’t have to run it every down either, but some kind of running game sure would help.
Finally, my biggest frustration as a former player is the way in which some decisions have been made by the administration as well as the way some things have been handled. It is hard for me to comment on some of these situations because I have heard most of the stories second and third hand, but there are a few things I feel alright talking about. The first is the dismissal of the old coaching staff. I’m not sure exactly what happened, but I know that some of those people were not treated very well and not given a fair chance. There were a lot of Nebraskans who wanted to see a change in the coaching staff when Frank was in charge. Whether you wanted a change or not, you have to agree that those guys deserved to be treated with respect and they deserved to have the administration be up front with them. From letters slipped under doors to pointless and insincere interviews, the whole process seemed to be devious and harmful to a lot of people that many of us as former players are loyal to.
After the firing of these people, the search for a new coach began. It was this process that left many of us confused and agitated, because it was done solely and completely by one man. Most major programs, when they hire a new coach, will put together a search committee. There are people who are loyal to our program who would have been tremendous resources in the selection process. I would have loved to have seen a committee made up of gentlemen such as Tom Osborne, Charlie McBride, Monte Kiffin, Ahman Green, Grant Wistrom, Mike Minter, Barry Alvarez, and Al Papik help identify the best candidate to take over our program. I guarantee that when Notre Dame picked a new head coach last year, more than one person was in on the decision. It’s just hard for me to believe that someone who probably couldn’t draw up an over front or and under front is the best person to pick a football coach. I actually think that things could have ended up worse, especially when you consider some of the other coaches that were rumored to have planes waiting at their local airports.
The decision was made; our program is headed in a completely new direction. Now we all have to deal with it. All of us, including the administration. If those guys get things turned around and we start winning games and championships than everyone will look like a genius. If things don’t turn around, then we all know where the majority of the criticism will be directed. I know as a quarterback that when the team did well, I got a lot more praise than I deserved. When the team didn’t do well, far more than my rightful share of the blame fell on my shoulders. It goes with the territory. Steve Pedersen brought that on himself when he was so cavalier in making these tough decisions. Right or wrong, hero or villain, he took a big risk and painted himself into a tight corner. Time will tell how everyone is viewed in the history of our program.
I know I am not the only one who feels this way about all of these issues. Most of the guys that I played with are more vocal than I am about many of these things. It isn’t just former players either. I know the stadium project hasn’t raised all of the money that they need yet. There are several people, and most of us know who they are, who could write a check tomorrow to have the whole facility finished. They’re not doing it because they are not happy with the state of affairs at South Stadium. I love Nebraska football. I love the state of Nebraska. I long for the days when the characteristics of the team we put on the field on Saturdays exemplified the characteristics of the hard working people of our state. We used to have the Taj mahal of college football programs. Now it feels like someone took 40 tons of dynamite to our proud and noble masterpiece and built a three bedroom ranch in its place. I’m not saying all of these things to be malicious or overly critical of anyone, but when it comes to a state institution, people have the right to be judgmental. I just want to share my opinions with all of the Husker fans out there who care as much about the program as I do.
You read this shit all winter up there? What is he a poet now? 4-8 bro
That is more words than there are trees in Nebraska. By the way, you are obsessed with UCF.
That manifesto was written years ago. Many people change after experiencing life outside of NGEbraska and see the world, but Frost just had too much pressure, outside/family influence, and internal conflict not to go back.
Surprisingly, I do believe that now we have a better coach regardless of what happens in the bowl game.
If I didn’t truly believe that, I just wouldn’t say anything,
However, the 2017 team had better personnel with Hughes and Griffin IMO. Of course, now we are missing MM.
OMG are you kidding me? Go away with your ancient history.
You are set to ignore.
Agreed. Hopefully his career will resemble Joe Paterno's. Um, actually lets go with Bobby Bowden.
JoePa sat around while a child was molested but didn’t SF sit around while a woman was beaten?
The details of that event run the gamut. Nobody other than the 3 people involved really know what happened.
hate to be the bad guy in your love affair for Frosty, but he did not put you into the position you are.Yeah I don't get the hate for him. Yes he left but Nebraska is home he was born and raised there on top of winning them a a share of the national title. And we are not in the position we're in now without him and the culture he established here. I've been rooting for him there and will continue to unless we play them of course
2010 Conference USA 11-3 C-USA Champion beat Georgia in their bowl gam
2011 5-7
2012 7-1 AAC Division Title, 10-4 Bowl win
2013 8-0 AAC Champion 12-1 bowl win over #6 Baylor
2014 7-1 AAC Division Title 9-4 bowl loss
2015 0-12 only UCF people know what happened
2016 Frost 1st season 6-7 bowl loss
2017 8-0 AAC Championship Bowl win over #7 Auburn
2018 8-0 AAC Championship Bowl game still to be played
UCF was already well established long before Frost
his 1st season was made up of the prior staffs recruits and most of his 2nd seasons players was still mostly the prior staffs recruits.
his 1st year as Nebraska HC using recruiting classes from the prior staff were rated #30 or better and the best he could do was go 4-8.
Frosty never saved UCF. as I just pointed out UCF was well establishec long before Frosty and will be even better after he is now gone.
We were 0-12. The culture was awful. Players didn’t like each other. We had no direction. Frost brought a culture that is the main reason for our success this year and continues today. He didnt make UCF, but he certainly saved us.
And we can mock them for 4-8 all we want but the fact is after game 7, they went 4-1 and the 1 loss was a heartbreaker to the eventual Big 10 champs. Some people don’t want to see it, but Nebraska is way better than they were before Frost got there. All emotion aside, that team is gonna be good next year whether we like it or not.
And we can mock them for 4-8 all we want but the fact is after game 7, they went 4-1 and the 1 loss was a heartbreaker to the eventual Big 10 champs. Some people don’t want to see it, but Nebraska is way better than they were before Frost got there. All emotion aside, that team is gonna be good next year whether we like it or not.
Meh. You’re looking at the glass half full. Sugarcoating it. Conveniently picking game 7. “Good” isn’t good enough for them
The wins were vs BCU, terrible Illinois, terrible Michigan State, and a terrible Minnesota team all at home.
We all know that the Ohio State team had injuries/ lost players and was mediocre at best at that time. As indicated by a bad loss to Purdue and should have lost to Maryland
Those are the facts. An 8-4 or even 9-3 2019 won’t scare anyone or appease the delusional fanbase. Still irrelevant
Another coach out there could have change the culture of GOL.
Additionally NGEbraska being 4-8. Your record says what you are.
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Husker bar in Snottsdale?? I’m going to vomit. I’ll be sure to stop byScott Bar Louie would never betray your privacy while on Croot drink breaks with Chins*
I assume that’s the wifey.
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no that is not AshleyHusker bar in Snottsdale?? I’m going to vomit. I’ll be sure to stop by
I assume that’s the wifey.
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Wow. I was certain it was.no that is not Ashley
Bet you that he attends the Fiesta Bowl
no Nebraska 1 loss was to Iowa and 1 of those 4 wins came against a FCS school that was scheduled to replace the Akron game.
Nebraska's 4 wins came against these
Minnesota 3-6 BT 6-6 2nd to last in the BT West
FCS School Bethane Cookman
Illinois 2-7 BT last in the West 4-8
MSU 5-4 7-5 overall
not exactly a killer stretch to end the year. please stop sucking up to Frosty. he is not going to just suddenly turn Nebraska super power in the BT West let alone the BT
Iowa is returning 6 out of 7 All BT players the All BT player that is not returning is JR TE Fant who is being projected to be a 1st round NFL pick.
Wisconsin is not going to roll over for Nebraska, nor will these
Purdue, Minnesota, NW the BT West division winner and even Illinois
Quality post. 100% agree.
I though the win over Michigan State was a quality win until i saw them barely beat a 1-11 Rutgers team at Michigan State 14-7
Michigan State has a good defense, but their offense is atrocious and worse as the year went along.
Nebraska barely beat Michigan State at home and the Ohio State game? Now we are celebrating quality losses of 4-8 teams???
When Frost goes to the CCG, we can say that NGEbraska is relevant. As long as they don’t get blown out. Other than that, it’s the same story since 1998.
Would NGEbraska fans accept the 2018 Northwestern season?
Right now yes, but ultimately if that’s the best Frost can do, he will be fired.
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Have several friends who are Iowa fans. I actually saw that miracle touchdown at the Capital One Bowl and the game against South Carolina at the Outback Bowl.
Went to the Outback Bowl super hungover and with no sleep. Friends got me amazing tickets/seats as their guest. Iowa has good people and the Trolls on the NGEbraska board are a special kind of funny. Iowa has always been one of my favorite teams and you guys play the newly hated NGEbraska
You guys travel really well and always seem to play your bowl game in Florida. No surprise that once again you’re going to the Outback Bowl
Hope the fans will enjoy warm weather
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If the Big 10 kills the divisions and goes to a round robin Big 12 format, NGEbraska probably doesn't sniff the CCG for a very long time......
the BT West is getting better so Nebbie as a long way to go. I don't care how much Rivals sucks up to Frosty recruits it still make them better. they have a LB that was down to Iowa them and before he committed he was a 5.7 3*. after he chose Nebbie he was upgraded into the top 110. had he chosen he would never have sniffed that 4th star.
these are the 4* players by 247 OT Miller, OT Endres and LB Jacobs a AA Game player all 3* players by Rivals. class rankings
Rivals 43rd
247 37th
ESPN 31st
with just 16 recruits.
these are the 4* players by 247 OT Miller, OT Endres and LB Jacobs a AA Game player all 3* players by Rivals. class rankings
Rivals 43rd
247 37th
ESPN 31st
with just 16 recruits.
