Nobody is right and nobody is wrong. It's a message board and is mostly opinion except for if people lay out some stats. So if people want to take a "who's right" and "who's wrong" angle, we've had winning seasons in 2005, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, and 2014. We've had losing seasons in 2004, 2006, 2008, and 2011. That's 7-4 in "good" seasons versus "bad" seasons. Our opinions don't matter much, unless you count patting ourselves on the back when we're right. Those are the results to pass judgement on. Personally, I throw out 2004. He inherited a mess and had little time to recruit. When the guy wants to retire he will. None of us are going to change that, and one bad season isn't going to change the situation either. After 2006 and 2008, he made coaching changes. If we continue to stink it up, and there is no reason to think otherwise at this point, hopefully he makes coaching changes to go along with the kids getting experience and better each week. I actually hope Holman's injury takes longer to heal than expected and he can medical red-shirt and have a better team around him next year.