Couldn’t agree more. What a cluster. 12% efficacy, and thousands injured best case
Couldn’t agree more. What a cluster. 12% efficacy, and thousands injured best case
Good for him. Kids do not need the shot or potential problems that come with it.
There is no reason to vaccinate healthy kids. Glad we were the first State to stop the nonsense. Seems like someone on this board was saying it makes no sense to vaccinate kids? Who was that? 🤔
It interesting to note 1.7 percent with ivervectin needed ventilation versus 4.0% of the control. Thats 50% better than not having it all is it not?Ivermectin futile for mild to moderate COVID-19, study finds
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COVID-19
Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News
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Feb 18, 2022
Early treatment with the antiparasitic drug ivermectin does not lower the risk of severe disease when given to patients with mild to moderate COVID-19, according to a study today in JAMA Internal Medicine.
And a related study in the same journal finds connections between prescribing patterns for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine by political-party vote share in 2020.
Lack of efficacy, more adverse events
Doctors at 20 Malaysian government hospitals and a COVID-19 quarantine center conducted an open-label, randomized clinical trial on the use of ivermectin in the first week of COVID-19 symptom onset in hospitalized adults 50 years and older with mild or moderate illness and underlying medical conditions. The study took place from May 31 to Oct 25, 2021.
Average patient age was 62.5 years, 54.5% were women, 51.8% had received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine, 75.3% had high blood pressure, 53.5% had diabetes, 37.6% had abnormal cholesterol levels, and 23.9% were obese.
Patients were randomly assigned in a 1:1 ratio to receive oral ivermectin daily for 5 days plus standard care (241 patients) or standard care only (249). Standard care consisted of treatment of symptoms and monitoring of clinical findings, laboratory test results, and chest imaging for signs of disease progression.
Severe disease was defined as hypoxia (low oxygen levels) requiring the use of supplemental oxygen to maintain oxygen saturation at 95% or higher.
Fifty-two of 241 patients in the ivermectin group (21.6%) and 43 of 249 patients in the standard-care-only group (17.3%) became severely ill (relative risk [RR], 1.25; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.87 to 1.80).
There were no significant differences between the two groups in time to symptom resolution or rates of mechanical ventilation, intensive care unit (ICU) admission, 28-day in-hospital death, or adverse events. Four ivermectin recipients (1.7%) required mechanical ventilation, compared with 10 (4.0%) in the standard-care group (RR, 0.41; 95% CI, 0.13 to 1.30).
Six patients (2.4%) in the ivermectin group were admitted to an ICU, versus 8 (3.2%) in the control group (RR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.27 to 2.20), and 3 ivermectin recipients (1.2%) and 10 controls (4.0%) died by 28 days (RR, 0.31; 95% CI, 0.09 to 1.11).
Forty-four patients (9.0%) had 55 adverse events, 33 of them in the ivermectin group. The most common adverse event was diarrhea, occurring in 14 (5.8%) in the ivermectin group and 4 (1.6%) in the standard-care group.
Five serious adverse events—four in the ivermectin group—were reported. Two patients had a heart attack, one had severe anemia, and one went into shock owing to fluid loss from severe diarrhea, while one in the control group had arterial bleeding in the abdomen. Adverse events led six patients to stop taking ivermectin and three to withdraw from the study. Thirteen patients (2.7%) died, most from COVID-19 pneumonia; no deaths were attributed to ivermectin.
"The notably higher incidence of AEs [adverse events] in the ivermectin group raises concerns about the use of this drug outside of trial settings and without medical supervision," the researchers wrote.
The authors noted that ivermectin may appear to be an attractive alternative to expensive antiviral medications in resource-limited regions such as Malaysia because it is inexpensive, easy to use, and broadly available.
However, the World Health Organization recommends against its use outside of clinical trials, and it is not US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19. Indeed, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed with the American Association of Poison Control Centers that reports of ivermectin-related adverse events increased in 2021 relative to before the pandemic.
"The study findings do not support the use of ivermectin for patients with COVID-19," the authors concluded.
It interesting to note 1.7 percent with ivervectin needed ventilation versus 4.0% of the control. Thats 50% better than not having it all is it not?
I am really curious what the comorbidities the others had who took iver ? Like the guy or gal who died of a heart attack? Would they have died anyway ?
Also, Tampa General along with that other school over there are participating in a nationwide double blind study which is testing 6 different current drugs including ivervectin , fluxoamine (anti depressant of all things) . I don't know when that study will be released.
If one truly puts politics aside the group of people least likely to get COVID and suffer any symptoms much less be killed by it are young people who are under 12. If I had toddlers or a kindergarten kid they would not be getting the vaccine ..it's risk reward. Science is wrong , a lot especially new science. The media couches it as the science is changing or evolving. Yah, because it got it wrong .
It interesting to note 1.7 percent with ivervectin needed ventilation versus 4.0% of the control. Thats 50% better than not having it all is it not?
I am really curious what the comorbidities the others had who took iver ? Like the guy or gal who died of a heart attack? Would they have died anyway ?
Also, Tampa General along with that other school over there are participating in a nationwide double blind study which is testing 6 different current drugs including ivervectin , fluxoamine (anti depressant of all things) . I don't know when that study will be released.
If one truly puts politics aside the group of people least likely to get COVID and suffer any symptoms much less be killed by it are young people who are under 12. If I had toddlers or a kindergarten kid they would not be getting the vaccine ..it's risk reward. Science is wrong , a lot especially new science. The media couches it as the science is changing or evolving. Yah, because it got it wrong .
Hey, Mike's. Should I post a picture of my Neighbor and friend Rusty Rice who died on August 28,2021 of the Delta variant and he was fully vaccinated by Moderna, two doses just 8 weeks prior?
You know people died . They died from a virus and some died because they were in atrocious health and some died because they chose a different path for addressing the virus . Some died because the vaccines are not 100% effective . It's sad. You are 1000% right. For alpha and Delta the vaccine proved largely effective.. you win brother. You were right. Does it feel better?
However, I hate mandates and I think people have the right to chose their path ,right or wrong . The government has gotten a lot wrong in the pandemic from the lockdowns which didn't do a damn thing except harm small businesses. They got the mask thing somewhat wrong and they got the stimulus money thing wrong ,see inflation. But you know who wasn't wrong, you sir. You are right . The vaccine largely worked in the beginning on adults .
3) Hoax 😂😂😂
17 posts in this thread. 10 by an individual that has literally nothing to say that isn't indicative of cult-like behavior. Off. The. Rails.
17 posts in this thread. 10 by an individual that has literally nothing to say that isn't indicative of cult-like behavior. Off. The. Rails.
With every age group it is the pro's vs the con's. The older you are the bigger the pro's and smaller the con's. the younger you are the bigger the con's and smaller the pro's. Then you factor in other health issues. If I am 65+ I am absolutely getting it, 50 to 65 most likely would get it 35 to 50 will consider overall health. 25 to 25 probably not if reasonably healthy. 15 to 25 and healthy, NO if have serious issues, Maybe. If I have a kid, no way in the hell I give it to my kid.
With every age group it is the pro's vs the con's. The older you are the bigger the pro's and smaller the con's. the younger you are the bigger the con's and smaller the pro's. Then you factor in other health issues. If I am 65+ I am absolutely getting it, 50 to 65 most likely would get it 35 to 50 will consider overall health. 25 to 25 probably not if reasonably healthy. 15 to 25 and healthy, NO if have serious issues, Maybe. If I have a kid, no way in the hell I give it to my kid.
You gotta love it!!!! Our usual suspects are NOW touting a medical recommendation from Florida's new Surgeon General!!!Good for him. Kids do not need the shot or potential problems that come with it.
I have not heard or listened to him. I have read and looked at stats on my own. and made my personal opinion based on that. I don't believe what Fauci says period. And doubt what any and all politicans say. Bottom line for me is simple, Kids are at almost 0 risk of serious problems from covid.
I had to ignore him. Wondering if he hit his head during covid or something? I dont remember him being this far off the rails back in 2019ish17 posts in this thread. 10 by an individual that has literally nothing to say that isn't indicative of cult-like behavior. Off. The. Rails.
Seems they Have silenced him as midterms near. The guy is a fraud, has been wrong about covid from the start, and he funded the development of the disease in the first place.I have not heard or listened to him. I have read and looked at stats on my own. and made my personal opinion based on that. I don't believe what Fauci says period. And doubt what any and all politicans say. Bottom line for me is simple, Kids are at almost 0 risk of serious problems from covid.
Lol, says the guy that watches cnn with a box of tissues and vaseline.You gotta love it!!!! Our usual suspects are NOW touting a medical recommendation from Florida's new Surgeon General!!!
This stellar medical advice comes from the same DeSantis lackey who refused to answer a simple question during his confirmation hearing about whether or not the COVID vaccines work. Yeah, boy, he's somebody to listen to, right guys? LOL
Safety of COVID-19 VaccinesI had to ignore him. Wondering if he hit his head during covid or something? I dont remember him being this far off the rails back in 2019ish
Looks like @Crazyhole has a new make believe friend 😂😂😂😂I had to ignore him. Wondering if he hit his head during covid or something? I dont remember him being this far off the rails back in 2019ish
And I haven't even posted yet ... until now.17 posts in this thread. 10 by an individual that has literally nothing to say that isn't indicative of cult-like behavior. Off. The. Rails.
And I haven't even posted yet ... until now.
Only 1 post from Mikes in response to me? I feel insulted!
I swear they gave him 1 too many vaccines as a kid ... or is that too few, and he felt 'left out?'
An embarrassment to parade floats everywhereOnly 1 post from Mikes in response to me? I feel insulted!
I swear they gave him 1 too many vaccines as a kid ... or is that too few, and he felt 'left out?'