Or you just take the average score of everyone and say "increase this."Originally posted by DHodges34:
I'm ok with this if their thought process was along the lines of needing to increase the % of students at or above prescibed academic levels to hit some overall goal by 2018, and by doing that they looked at the data and said "ok that means Asians need to go from A to B, Hispanics from X to Y, etc." to give them a set of goals, with everyone being asked to improve by the same %. The people that are "outraged" should be asking why they track academic performance by race in the first place.
If you're claiming that they are all equal except for the weight, then they need to have the same end goal in sight. While you have a point in the sense that being at 200 in the same timeframe for all of them is unrealistic, you are not showing that you understand that, all else being equal, they all need to get to 200 regardless of where they are now. The end goal needs to be stated and intermediate goals need to be labeled what they are.Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Goals need to be attainable. Telling a specified group that has been at a lower level than other groups that they need to reach the same level as these other groups really isn't realistic. No one is saying they can't overachieve. It's like telling someone who is 300 pounds, someone who is 250 pounds, and someone who is 220 pounds that they all need to weigh 200 pounds. That isn't realistic.
Under the same time period it's just not realistic to expect everyone to hit the same goal when some are starting a lot further behind. This is a multigenerational issue that is not going to be solved in a few years by some number goal on a piece of paper.Originally posted by sk8knight:
If you're claiming that they are all equal except for the weight, then they need to have the same end goal in sight. While you have a point in the sense that being at 200 in the same timeframe for all of them is unrealistic, you are not showing that you understand that, all else being equal, they all need to get to 200 regardless of where they are now. The end goal needs to be stated and intermediate goals need to be labeled what they are.Originally posted by OlearyLookAlike:
Goals need to be attainable. Telling a specified group that has been at a lower level than other groups that they need to reach the same level as these other groups really isn't realistic. No one is saying they can't overachieve. It's like telling someone who is 300 pounds, someone who is 250 pounds, and someone who is 220 pounds that they all need to weigh 200 pounds. That isn't realistic.
Unless you're saying that they're not intrinsically equal. If that is your argument, then go ahead and maintain different standards tailored to the reality of their differences.
Regardless, the school board can set all the goals that they want but those goals can't get into the homes and neighborhoods of the struggling children and change the world for them.
Racism is very systemic.Originally posted by UCFWayne:
So the goal is to treat everyone the same, but at the same time break them into separate groups?!