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GIULIANI CONSPIRACY DEBUNKED

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Bronze Knight
Feb 25, 2020
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per sources, a Russian disinformation campaign tried to smear Rudy Giuliani after a 24 year old actress made sexual advances on him. Sources closes to the matter expect WashingtonPost to issue a retraction and apology pending lawsuit

 
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Its amazing all of the almost unbelievable stories lately have been proven to be conspiracies. Like how a crack addicted washout son of a sitting vice president with no experience in energy or Ukraine in general, got a job that pays millions working for the most corrupt company in Eastern Europe on his own merits. Its fortunate that this was debunked, because at one time the idea of a company that does no business with the US whatsoever but was under investigation for money laundering throughout europe hiring an American drug addict made no sense.
 
It isn't stopping? Wake up and smell the coffee, it never got started!!!
Just because CNN and MSNBC decided to go all-in as Democrat shills and not cover what should be the biggest story right now doesn’t mean it is going away. Oh, and I don’t want to hear a word the next time anyone calls out those outlets for the trash news organizations they are proving themselves to be.
 
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Just because CNN and MSNBC decided to go all-in as Democrat shills and not cover what should be the biggest story right now doesn’t mean it is going away. Oh, and I don’t want to hear a word the next time anyone calls out those outlets for the trash news organizations they are proving themselves to be.
Oh, so NOW it's those mean, nasty media outlets who refuse to report "breaking news?"

Clearly you're more comfortable believing everyone is a Democrat shrill than to believe its a Russian disinformation campaign that was uncovered -- and debunked.

But you also bought the BS of America's biggest con man so it figures.
 
Oh, so NOW it's those mean, nasty media outlets who refuse to report "breaking news?"

Clearly you're more comfortable believing everyone is a Democrat shrill than to believe its a Russian disinformation campaign that was uncovered -- and debunked.

But you also bought the BS of America's biggest con man so it figures.
Nah, I never bought Biden’s BS. Not Schiff’s for that matter. Nor yours for the four years now you’ve been imagining Russian boogeymen behind every door.

No less than the Director of National Intelligence said that this wasnt Russian. The you have former business partners coming out, Joe going into hiding for four days 3 weeks before the election in an unprecedented move, and his lack of any rebuttal to the claims other than a thinly-veiled deflection anyone with a 5th grade education can see through. Not to mention there is actual physical evidence backing up the claims of the business partners. Finally, there’s the whole common sense of everyone in the world knowing that a guy that couldn’t even keep a Navy Reserve commission all of a sudden was keeping multiple positions worth millions a year all while maintaining a drug and hooker habit that was out in the open. Any person capable of any kind of rational thought at all would say that Hunter wasn’t being paid because he was providing value to those companies himself while he enacted much of what Steele made up about Trump.

To see you go all defense mode to protect your team is hilarious. Especially since it proves false every statement you’ve ever made about tribalism and partisanship. I’m glad we’ll never have to read you rail against that again now that you’ve pulled back the curtain like so many other Dembots.
 
Any person capable of any kind of rational thought at all would say that Hunter wasn’t being paid because he was providing value to those companies himself.
Nobody ever denied the fact that Hunter Biden got put on the board of a Ukrainian company owned by a scumbag. But -- as was discussed ad nauseam at the time -- it didn't stop Veep Biden from pressing the Ukrainian government to get rid of their corrupt AG -- who was looking the other way at all the rampant corruption going on there -- including from the guy who put Biden's son on his board of directors. If Joe was 'in cahoots with his son,' he would have backed off pressuring the government to get rid of the AG instead of continuing to push for it.

Do I like the fact that Hunter Biden was used as a political tool by a corrupt Ukrainian businessman? Nope. Kind of like I don't like Ivanka Trump getting sweetheart business patents from China while working for our government. But ultimately, the ethical question with both is whether or not they influenced US policy. In the case of Hunter Biden, it did not.
 
Hunter and the Bidens scamming for access. Shook doesn't mind. The (D) gets a pass. This is what a partisan looks like.
The fact that Hunter Biden is back in Right-wing news reports speaks volumes about the state of Trump's reelection bid.

This is what Republican desperation looks like. :)
 
The fact that Hunter Biden is back in Right-wing news reports speaks volumes about the state of Trump's reelection bid.

This is what Republican desperation looks like. :)
come to think of it, i don't think you've ever denounced pedophilia. makes you think
 
Also, watched Borat last night.

Was pretty damn funny. I have a developed enough sense of humor to laugh at people making fun of my preferred candidate. There were a few parts that were a little much (dancing scene), but that's par for the course with a SBC movie.

Giuliani part was pretty cringe, as it was meant to be. Can't blame him though, she was hot.
 
Just because CNN and MSNBC decided to go all-in as Democrat shills and not cover what should be the biggest story right now doesn’t mean it is going away. Oh, and I don’t want to hear a word the next time anyone calls out those outlets for the trash news organizations they are proving themselves to be.

Let me be the first to say I disagreed with FB and Twitter censoring the NY Post story. But there's so much more to this than the narrative of the mainstream press burying the story. This is a really fascinating read on the dynamics of this.


Couple of highlights but the whole thing is worth a read.

By 2015, the old gatekeepers had entered a kind of crisis of confidence, believing they couldn’t control the online news cycle any better than King Canute could control the tides. Television networks all but let Donald Trump take over as executive producer that summer and fall. In October 2016, Julian Assange and James Comey seemed to drive the news cycle more than the major news organizations. Many figures in old media and new bought into the idea that in the new world, readers would find the information they wanted to read — and therefore, decisions by editors and producers, about whether to cover something and how much attention to give it, didn’t mean much.

But the last two weeks have proved the opposite: that the old gatekeepers, like The Journal, can still control the agenda. It turns out there is a big difference between WikiLeaks and establishment media coverage of WikiLeaks, a difference between a Trump tweet and an article about it, even between an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal suggesting Joe Biden had done bad things, and a news article that didn’t reach that conclusion.

Perhaps the most influential media document of the last four years is a chart by a co-director of the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard, Yochai Benkler. The study showed that a dense new right-wing media sphere had emerged — and that the mainstream news “revolved around the agenda that the right-wing media sphere set.”
 
Let me be the first to say I disagreed with FB and Twitter censoring the NY Post story. But there's so much more to this than the narrative of the mainstream press burying the story. This is a really fascinating read on the dynamics of this.


Couple of highlights but the whole thing is worth a read.

By 2015, the old gatekeepers had entered a kind of crisis of confidence, believing they couldn’t control the online news cycle any better than King Canute could control the tides. Television networks all but let Donald Trump take over as executive producer that summer and fall. In October 2016, Julian Assange and James Comey seemed to drive the news cycle more than the major news organizations. Many figures in old media and new bought into the idea that in the new world, readers would find the information they wanted to read — and therefore, decisions by editors and producers, about whether to cover something and how much attention to give it, didn’t mean much.

But the last two weeks have proved the opposite: that the old gatekeepers, like The Journal, can still control the agenda. It turns out there is a big difference between WikiLeaks and establishment media coverage of WikiLeaks, a difference between a Trump tweet and an article about it, even between an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal suggesting Joe Biden had done bad things, and a news article that didn’t reach that conclusion.

Perhaps the most influential media document of the last four years is a chart by a co-director of the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard, Yochai Benkler. The study showed that a dense new right-wing media sphere had emerged — and that the mainstream news “revolved around the agenda that the right-wing media sphere set.”
“I’d prefer to put my faith in Mr. Murray and careful, professional journalists like him than in the social platforms’ product managers and executives.”

This is rich coming from the NYT thathas run with so many unverified stories against Trump. I’m sorry but this opinion piece that sanctifies the NYT and left-leaning media is trash.
 
Let me also comment on Leslie Stahl's gaslighting on 60 Minutes last night. You have a story that rings plausible about Hunter forgetting the computer at a repair shop because addicts forget things. You've got Hunter's signature on the papers from the repair shop. You've got Hunter's lawyer calling the shop to ask for the laptop back. You've got the laptop having been subpoena'ed by the FBI for a separate money laundering case. You have a direct witness (a veteran nonetheless so we're supposed to believe them when they whistleblow, right?) corroborating evidence from a Hunter Biden business partner with additional corroborating physical evidence. You have the DNI directly stating that it isn't a Russian ploy and neither of the intelligence services disputing that.

But Leslie Stahl sat before the POTUS and told that the laptop isn't verified. Not acting as a journalist and asking him questions to present information to her viewers, but instead choosing to argue a position as if she were an advocate or an activist. She should not be able to do that and still claim to be a journalist.
 
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Let me also comment on Leslie Stahl's gaslighting on 60 Minutes last night. You have a story that rings plausible about Hunter forgetting the computer at a repair shop because addicts forget things. .....

But Leslie Stahl sat before the POTUS and told that the laptop isn't verified. Not acting as a journalist and asking him questions to present information to her viewers, but instead choosing to argue a position as if she were an advocate or an activist. She should not be able to do that and still claim to be a journalist.
I realize it works differently on Fox News but normally, professional interviewers set the agenda and ask the questions, not the other way around.

It’s as shocking to learn Stahl had no interest in asking Trump about Hunter Biden as it would be if she asked Joe Biden questions about Ivanka Trump.
 
It’s as shocking to learn Stahl had no interest in asking Trump about Hunter Biden as it would be if she asked Joe Biden questions about Ivanka Trump.

does Ivanka Trump have a laptop full of self-produced child porn or is that just you and Hunter?
 
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This is how brainwashed the left is. No interest in discussing major corruption, child porn, sex with a minor, pay for access, crack, etc that is going on right now.
Yeah, the media silence over your right-wing crackpot conspiracy theories is a downright travesty. 🙄
 
Videos and everything else isn't conspiracy. You don't hear Hunter saying it isn't his laptop. If the government isn't corrupt he would spend life in prison.
Its weird how people can still say that there nothing there. 2 years worth of reporting and investigations, culminating with physical evidence directly tied to the family that it was all actually going on is just a conspiracy theory?
 
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Its weird how people can still say that there nothing there. 2 years worth of reporting and investigations, culminating with physical evidence ...
LMAO. This from the same people who poo-poo'ed the Mueller Investigation. :) :) :)
 
LMAO. This from the same people who poo-poo'ed the Mueller Investigation. :) :) :)
I dont understand your point. The Mueller investigation was, get this, an actual investigation, and the outcome of it basically confirmed the fact that Trump didn't do anything wrong. On the flip side, the senate investigation showed all kinds of evidence that something screwy was going on with the Biden family and was corroborated by a treasury investigation that indicates there was money laundering going on.
 
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