Good for Navy bad for...
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True, it just shows how remarkable our undefeated run thru the conference was in 2013, besides if Navy (who lost to Air Force last week) was able to beat Houston, can you imagine what a "real" top 4 team would have done to them if they made the playoffs?
They never had a chance in the first place. Not with so many still undefeated teams in the Power 5 and the likelihood that at a least a couple one-loss P-5 teams will have the in-conference SOS to finish ahead of them. Their ceiling always was 6 to 8 by the end of the season, just like Boise St. ceiling is 8 to 10.
Houston's chance wouldve improved if the conference performance against ooc (especially the p5) would be as good or better than last years. We still did well. We had Six wins against p5 versus 9 last year. Unfortunately the featured team was beat by a team who lost to a mid major the week before.
The media and talk radio hosts clowns like Arnie Spanier will continue to push the P5/G5 divide narrative, but you cant deny the facts if youre winning games.
The media and talk radio hosts clowns like Arnie Spanier will continue to push the P5/G5 divide narrative, but you cant deny the facts if youre winning games.
the conference was much weaker and watered down then & Navy wasn't a member yet
Navy is going to be what Georgia Tech is to the ACC, their offense is going to ruin undefeated seasons by teams with much better talent
I've never really cared about Conference Pride, I just want UCF to win. Screw everyone else bc as a G5 the conference will never get respect regardless of what is done on the field. Everything will be measured on OOC when it comes to National Perception
Its not really conference pride to me. I just want to know the teams in this conference are comparable to P5 squads and we aren't in a souped up fcs conference. Instead of always grovelling to join a p5 conference, it would be nice build what we have. Right now it might not seem possible, but that could change in the future.
That's why the Texas game move might have been a mistake, what with their program tanking this year and ours well on schedule (or ahead) for the kind of upset road victories needed to get ranked and make major bowls.
Houston needed to be brought back down to earth. Was sick of hearing
that Houston was so great and the
can't miss expansion team. They are
very good but like I've said before they are a 8 and 4 team without Ward.
They will still be good next year without Ward but they want be nearly as dynamic.
If Herman leaves they will take a step
backward but I do believe Houston will find another good coach. They are good at hiring good and innovative coaches.
that Houston was so great and the
can't miss expansion team. They are
very good but like I've said before they are a 8 and 4 team without Ward.
They will still be good next year without Ward but they want be nearly as dynamic.
If Herman leaves they will take a step
backward but I do believe Houston will find another good coach. They are good at hiring good and innovative coaches.
Er..........Louisville's only loss that year was to UCF. Louisville circa 2013' > Houston circa 2016' and USF looks to be the 2nd best AAC School this year (and we have a chance to beat them coming off an 0-12 season) so no the conference was not much weaker then although Navy wasn't a member.
And we didn't have to play Cincy that year, that last year they were great.
But Louisville got into the ACC without consider UCF solely because Florida members blocked us. Louisville isn't within light years of UCF in any other dimension. For decades, Kentucky refused to play Louisville. It was the low-class place with the minority players (and students) and weak academics. They have a small market in a pitifully poor state and their academics remain lousy. Most important, they aren't a flagship state school and they're an urban school, just like UCF. Their only edge: they aren't in Florida.
Very good for Navy, really bad for Houston they may not even make the championship game this year. Navy would have to lose two conference games to let Hoston back in. I don't see that happening.
Navy is now in driver's seat in the West.
Navy is now in driver's seat in the West.
yeah the praise for them got a little annoying, they deserved it but they acted like they are the only AAC Program that could rise up and beat the big boys. Short memories with all the Expansion Hot Takes every week.
100% agree with you. I think it's bad for Houston, bad for the conference, but who cares because you know know who it's not bad for...? Us. Houston by all means was a front runner for this whole B12 thing (which may not even happen at this point), so screw them, take them down a notch, bring them back to earth. They haven't done $***, and if they were ever gonna have a year where they do something, they just lost it so good.
Um...no. UCF was not blocked by Florida schools because UCF was never a serious candidate. There is no way schools like Duke, NC, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Pitt and NC State were going to consider a school as bad in basketball as we have been, and there is no way football schools like Clemson, Florida State and Georgia Tech were going to consider UCF when at the time our best season was a Liberty Bowl win over an unranked Georgia team.
Add in the fact that TV revenue has been the primary driver of conference expansion decisions and there was no reason for ANY of the ACC teams to consider a school in a state they already had a presence in.
Since you're playing the "at the time" game, the ACC was leaking like a sieve at the time. It was being raided by the better leagues (and what P-5 league isn't better?) and being condemn to the Big East status of a "basketball conference." Just to save the ACC from the Big East's fate, they had to raid the Big East as well as adopt a "poison pill" clause among member to prevent any more from leaving. Louisville's academics is a disgrace to a conference of Duke, UNC, Miami, FSU, Syracuse, Boston College, and now Notre Dame -- all top 50 ranked U.S. News schools. Great! They had a basketball team. Correction: they were always the SECOND best team in their sorry excuse for a state. We weren't considered because Louisville turned us in to the NCAA for invading their territory and recruiting too well.
Louisville will always be by far in away the choice over UCF in any conference so whatever floats your boat.
If that's what makes you feel good then fine. Now you can go about your business.
UL has had success in both football and basketball. UCF was never a consideration because the ACC could not need another Florida team and quite frankly we were never a candidate for anything until the Fiesta Bowl.
The phrase is "far and away". As in "Louisville graduates are far and away better pizza delivery boys than engineers". Damn Louisville education showing its ass again.
Admittedly, I though Houston was a runaway train. Not so much. Interested to see how they respond. UCONN beat them last year and they still finished 13-1.
It was so sweet to see them get whooped the other week. What a really sad state with a loonier governor than even Rick Scott.
Their coach keeps the QB in even when hurting and the game well in hand. They are always just one play away from him going down, and he generates most of their offense. Coach acts like a guy ready to take the first P-5 offer out of town.
It was so sweet to see them get whooped the other week. What a really sad state with a loonier governor than even Rick Scott
Lost by 6 in Death Valley at night is getting whooped? Lol. What UCF lost by to Michigan and Maryland is getting whooped boss. I get it you don't like UL but, why don't you come back to reality for all of us.
Lost by 6 in Death Valley at night is getting whooped? Lol. What UCF lost by to Michigan and Maryland is getting whooped boss. I get it you don't like UL but, why don't you come back to reality for all of us.
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