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Great articles of 'Nova game and effort (Tacko leads nation in pct.)

Villanova obviously is a very good team. I like how they pass it around and control the ball on offense. UCF should make some noise in the American Conference. No shame in losing to a top tier team and shows what it takes to get there. Go Knights !
 
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I think that Tacko comes back for one more year. His body isn't ready. He was getting pushed around by Villanova's post guys all night. I crinched every time he hit the floor. If Tacko does return, next year's team is scary good.
 
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Hack-a-Shaq doesn't seem to work on Tacko. Not because he's a good free throw shooter (what is he 20% from the line?), it's because fouls don't seem to affect him throwing it down. All it does is result in a 3 point play 20% of the time. I don't think that will work at the next level, so working on his consistency at the line now will help big time.
 
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SublimeKnight said:
Hack-a-Shaq doesn't seem to work on Tacko. Not because he's a good free throw shooter (what is he 20% from the line?), it's because fouls don't seem to affect him throwing it down. All it does is result in a 3 point play 20% of the time. I don't think that will work at the next level, so working on his consistency at the line now will help big time.
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Yes, he's so much strong and balanced this year. Whenever he caught the ball, the defense "swarmed around him" which lowered his shooting accuracy to ... 100%! In the NBA, they can't do that. You're guaranteed one-on-one! The pros having seen anyone like him since Yao, who was not as good.

And went UCF went into the full-court press the last 4+ minutes, it was beautiful. Tacko locked down the basket the way Kareem did back at UCLA. Might have even won if done that the whole game. Look for Dawkins to press more. On defense, Tacko allows Dawkins the luxury of denying the 3's, 'Nova's bread and butter, cutting 'Nova's shooting in half from the 50% it shot against Wake Forest. We've gotta be leading the nation in defending the 3.

Lastly, he's running the court much better before even speedy opponents like 'Nova can get into their offensive sets. He'd never do that last year without getting winded. He's playing many more minutes, too. Last year, Donny was forced to sometimes totally bench him against fast break teams. Almost NBA ready? You bet!
 
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UCFProf said:
Yes, he's so much strong and balanced this year. Whenever he caught the ball, the defense "swarmed around him" which lowered his shooting accuracy to ... 100%! In the NBA, they can't do that. You're guaranteed one-on-one! The pros having seen anyone like him since Yao, who was not as good.

Almost NBA ready? You bet!
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The amount of stupid in this post exceeds all your other stupid posts by 10x. Literally everything you wrote is wrong.
 
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How many centers have you even seen courtside?
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Tacky is not ready for NBA. Not sure he ever will be. He doesn't gain position and fight for rebounds. He's just taller than most and usually stays within 10 feet of basket. He needs to work on footwork and getting quicker. No way he's better than Yao Ming.
 
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pittstoner74 said:
Tacky is not ready for NBA. Not sure he ever will be. He doesn't gain position and fight for rebounds. He's just taller than most and usually stays within 10 feet of basket. He needs to work on footwork and getting quicker. No way he's better than Yao Ming.
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in the upcoming offseason, if he makes progress similar to this past frosh/soph offseason, he'll be getting close to NBA ready...the previous posters are right that he still has more development prior to going pro, but he really took a huge leap (athleticism, strength and durability) prior to this season....one more of those leaps (focused on improving his offensive game beyond dunks) and imho, he'll be ready to move up....
 
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Oldest Man said:
in the upcoming offseason, if he makes progress similar to this past frosh/soph offseason, he'll be getting close to NBA ready...the previous posters are right that he still has more development prior to going pro, but he really took a huge leap (athleticism, strength and durability) prior to this season....one more of those leaps (focused on improving his offensive game beyond dunks) and imho, he'll be ready to move up....
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In today's NBA 7 footers can dribble, shoot from 20 feet out and are athletic. He has to stay 4 years and may get drafted late first or 2nd round. The type of athleticism he needs is genetic. Not learned. That being said, he is good for us because we aren't Kentucky and getting the 5 star future NBA players.
 
The Yao comment is absurd. Yao had range, was an excellent free throw shooter, and averaged 20 and 10. If not for injuries he could have been a hall of famer
 
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The Yao comment is absurd. Yao had range, was an excellent free throw shooter, and averaged 20 and 10. If not for injuries he could have been a hall of famer
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Agreed. It's not even close.

And being nba ready, that's absurd too.

Fall has improved significantly and will continue to get better over time, which will be fun to watch.
 
Look, it's simple. He can make a lot more progress a lot quicker as a "project" learning full time with NBA rules and opposition. Playing college next year is wasting his time and inviting injury. I loved the announcer saying how "Hack a Shaq" doesn't work because they can't stop him from finishing the dunk. 'Nova was stacked with draft choice players, making top-level NBA pump fakes and moves.

But he had no pro-level players around on his side. All he did was dominate and make those all-stars only challenged him once, which he easily swatted!!! Or keep him from making every single shot, even with 4 guys on him down low. He could have scored 10 more times if anyone on UCF over the last two years knew how to pass it high enough to him.

Yao never had the hands, timing, or his new moves around the basket he's learned. The last 10 games last season, something clicked in his head and there's been no stopping him since. Glad we have him for another 26 to 32 more games. His story will get us global attention, and will help Dawkins recruit big men after Johnny's proven he knows how to coach and develop them. We want him drafted!
 
UCFProf said:
Look, it's simple. He can make a lot more progress a lot quicker as a "project" learning full time with NBA rules and opposition. Playing college next year is wasting his time and inviting injury. I loved the announcer saying how "Hack a Shaq" doesn't work because they can't stop him from finishing the dunk. 'Nova was stacked with draft choice players, making top-level NBA pump fakes and moves.

But he had no pro-level players around on his side. All he did was dominate and make those all-stars only challenged him once, which he easily swatted!!! Or keep him from making every single shot, even with 4 guys on him down low. He could have scored 10 more times if anyone on UCF over the last two years knew how to pass it high enough to him.

Yao never had the hands, timing, or his new moves around the basket he's learned. The last 10 games last season, something clicked in his head and there's been no stopping him since. Glad we have him for another 26 to 32 more games. His story will get us global attention, and will help Dawkins recruit big men after Johnny's proven he knows how to coach and develop them. We want him drafted!
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Totally disagree. Nba big-man projects typically don't develop. There are significantly more failures than the handful of successes. Once preseason is over, so is developmental time. After preseason is over, it's 3-4 games per week, travel in between, a practice here and there with a day off squeezed in at some point.

Fall would sit on the bench, play a few minutes here and there during relevant games, but most of his playing time would be for mop up duty which does absolutely nothing towards a players development in the nba.

His body is not ready with strength and motor skills.

Yao was physically ready at age 22, already had good skills, averaged 30 mpg, 13 ppg, 8 rpg his rookie season. Fall isn't ready at all.

Give it time.

As a note: I didn't notice Villanova's roster loaded with nba talent. Maybe two guys last night get drafted, maybe. What you saw last night was a team of good players that are extraordinarily cohesive as a unit and very well coached.
 
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Totally disagree. Nba big-man projects typically don't develop. There are significantly more failures than the handful of successes. Once preseason is over, so is developmental time. After preseason is over, it's 3-4 games per week, travel in between, a practice here and there with a day off squeezed in at some point.

Fall would sit on the bench, play a few minutes here and there during relevant games, but most of his playing time would be for mop up duty which does absolutely nothing towards a players development in the nba.

His body is not ready with strength and motor skills.

Yao was physically ready at age 22, already had good skills, averaged 30 mpg, 13 ppg, 8 rpg his rookie season. Fall isn't ready at all.

Give it time.

As a note: I didn't notice Villanova's roster loaded with nba talent. Maybe two guys last night get drafted, maybe. What you saw last night was a team of good players that are extraordinarily cohesive as a unit and very well coached.
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No need to debate this. In America today, everyone is required to be absolute sure about a future they cannot know. It wouldn't be the web otherwise. We'll know in a few months, I'll likely be right, and we can move on.
 
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No need to debate this. In America today, everyone is required to be absolute sure about a future they cannot know. It wouldn't be the web otherwise. We'll know in a few months, I'll likely be right, and we can move on.
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Just stop, please
 
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Ugh!!! Yao is an NBA Hall of Famer

Work on the free throws, then post moves, then we will talk.

Right now Tacko is a good defensive force, rebounder by default, and an impoving athlete. He's not a stiff. He's a high percentage shooter, because he's a dunking machine and once he catches it in the low post, it's over.

That won't translate to success in the NBA, He will need 3-4 years of college at least, but the future is bright.
 
craig01 said:
Totally disagree. Nba big-man projects typically don't develop. There are significantly more failures than the handful of successes. Once preseason is over, so is developmental time. After preseason is over, it's 3-4 games per week, travel in between, a practice here and there with a day off squeezed in at some point.

Fall would sit on the bench, play a few minutes here and there during relevant games, but most of his playing time would be for mop up duty which does absolutely nothing towards a players development in the nba.

His body is not ready with strength and motor skills.

Yao was physically ready at age 22, already had good skills, averaged 30 mpg, 13 ppg, 8 rpg his rookie season. Fall isn't ready at all.

Give it time.

As a note: I didn't notice Villanova's roster loaded with nba talent. Maybe two guys last night get drafted, maybe. What you saw last night was a team of good players that are extraordinarily cohesive as a unit and very well coached.
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Agree with 95% of this. At this point, he would not get any relevant minutes in the NBA and would not be productive in Garbage time. Yet.
 
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Agree with 95% of this. At this point, he would not get any relevant minutes in the NBA and would not be productive in Garbage time. Yet.
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NBA drafted rookies (and sometimes second year players) play in their summer leagues, teams hold pre-season practices, and unlike college they can't go 48 minutes with a 24-second clock without playing 9 to 10 players. The long season and a month of playoffs means lots of injuries.

Big centers gain little relevant experience watching college opponents lofting up more than half their shots from a ridiculously close 3-point arc. Similarly, getting triple teamed in college is not useful from development. That's why bigs leave early! Tacko came to basketball late, so that's why he's still here.
 
He definitely isn't NBA ready and the Yao comparison is insane. Tacko has been playing basketball for what 3 years now? Today's NBA bigs are far more athletic than he is- guys like Dwight Howard are a dying breed. Now you have guys like Towns, Cousins and Whiteside who can run the length of the floor, have a variety of different post moves, can guard more positions than just the 5, and can shoot from numerous spots on the floor. Towns, Ibaka and Mark Gasol are all top 25 in 3 pt % so far this year.

I think Tacko could eventually go pro, but not after this year.
 
Mikesi said:
Ugh!!! Yao is an NBA Hall of Famer
Work on the free throws, then post moves, then we will talk.
Right now Tacko is a good defensive force, rebounder by default, and an impoving athlete. He's not a stiff. He's a high percentage shooter, because he's a dunking machine and once he catches it in the low post, it's over.
That won't translate to success in the NBA, He will need 3-4 years of college at least, but the future is bright.
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He wasn't even that aggressive last year which is the big difference. I think there's a job for him in the NBA. It may not be a big star, but a serviceable player. Dawkins said Tacko is like a sponge for knowledge.
 
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He wasn't even that aggressive last year which is the big difference. I think there's a job for him in the NBA. It may not be a big star, but a serviceable player. Dawkins said Tacko is like a sponge for knowledge.
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And just a lot stronger in the post. Court sense tremendously improved. "Raw" no longer applies.
 
UCFan07 said:
He definitely isn't NBA ready and the Yao comparison is insane. Tacko has been playing basketball for what 3 years now? Today's NBA bigs are far more athletic than he is- guys like Dwight Howard are a dying breed. Now you have guys like Towns, Cousins and Whiteside who can run the length of the floor, have a variety of different post moves, can guard more positions than just the 5, and can shoot from numerous spots on the floor. Towns, Ibaka and Mark Gasol are all top 25 in 3 pt % so far this year.

I think Tacko could eventually go pro, but not after this year.
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A 6'10" guy that hustles and is athletic will beat Tacko for rebounds.
 
Tacko is still a project. I don't know if he can grow enough to be NBA quality. Pro in Europe more likely.
 
Lololol better than yao. I like tacko and all but hes going to get destroyed in the nba if he gets drafted.

And you compared him to Kareem too...
 
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A 6'10" guy that hustles and is athletic will beat Tacko for rebounds.
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Is it smart to hustle every minute on the court when youre relied on for 40 minutes because of depth issues? Yes i know hes benched at times but im sure he's pacing himself. That ability is yet to be seen.
 
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Is it smart to hustle every minute on the court when youre relied on for 40 minutes because of depth issues? Yes i know hes benched at times but im sure he's pacing himself. That ability is yet to be seen.
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Taking last year into account as well when he only played 20 minutes a game. I'm not saying he is being outhustled. Saying guys that are shorter and more athletic have a better shot at dominating a game.
 
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