Gutless play calling by HCIW Brent Key

[Auggie25]

Holman moves the f'n ball by passing and scrambling from the UCF 26 to the FIU 23.

Brent Key than decides to completely take the ball out of Holman's hands (his Jr QB) to rely on an O-Line and running game that was ineffective all night with the ultimate plan of putting the game on a kicker with ZERO experience.

I thought Holman was going to lead us to a win until Coach Key called the worst series of plays in UCF history.

I feel like I just woke up with a massive hangover and I didn't have a single drink yesterday. SMH

 

[LemmyKilmister]

If Key is our future HC, we are doomed.

 

[Auggie25]

Passing Game

Holman
23/34, 249 yards, 2 TDs, 0 Int

Akins
9 rec, 104 yards, 2 TDs

Smith
9 rec, 104 yards

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Running Game

Wilson
12 carries, 34 yards, 2.8 avg

Stanback
10 carries, 6 yards, 0.6 avg


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What would you (or anyone with a brain) rely on if you had 3 final plays to call in the game?

 

[tribbleorlfl]

Key might have been the one who called those exact plays (runs up the middle) but it was GOL who took the ball out of Hollman's hands and wanted to run down the clock. You could see it all over his smug face when FIU took their second TO, "Yes, they are succumbing to my superior game management."

It's the same song and dance weve seen from him before in late game situations, the only difference is we dont have the talent or experience on this year's team to get away with it.

I feel bad for the players since they're going to be put through the ringer in practice next week as punishment, but this loss falls chiefly on GOL, imho. You get shut out in the second half and then unexplicably throw ice water on a potential scoring drive to run out the clock, that's coaching.

 

[HoseEmDown]

With the way the defense played last night it didn't surprise me they did that. The D was gashed for large chunks so they could've easily moved down the field on them. The last thing GOL wants is someone to gash his defense for the winning drive just like Penn state last year. He was scared to lose again that way and was much easier for him to pin the blame on a freshman kicker then himself or his new DC hire.

 

[Stormthecourt?]

There was 34 seconds left on those last three plays. How much gashing was Mr Magoo going to do in 34 seconds?

 

[yellowshorts911]

With the way the defense played last night it didn't surprise me they did that. The D was gashed for large chunks so they could've easily moved down the field on them. The last thing GOL wants is someone to gash his defense for the winning drive just like Penn state last year. He was scared to lose again that way and was much easier for him to pin the blame on a freshman kicker then himself or his new DC hire.

GTFO with that logic.

 

[Marvelouz]

We gave up 15 points last night - THATS A GOOD THING
We put up 14 points last night - THATS A BAD THING

I can't put this on Holman. Our run game was bad last night and someone (GOL or Key) thought it was a bright idea to run down the clock last night and put it on a true freshman kicker.

 

[HoseEmDown]

There was 34 seconds left on those last three plays. How much gashing was Mr Magoo going to do in 34 seconds?

There was just under 2 minutes to go when we got the first down and they had 3 timeouts. If they throw on any down and it's incomplete those 3 downs maybe take maybe 20 seconds off the clock and they have a minute and a half to work with. With how the D played it's easily possible.

 

[jowitt09]

It makes sense if you get the ball to like the 5 or 10 yard line. But at 25? That's a 40+ yard kick with a rookie kicker. Should have gotten another quick first down take a shot for the end-zone, and THEN run time off the clock.

 

[Auggie25]

It makes sense if you get the ball to like the 5 or 10 yard line. But at 25? That's a 40+ yard kick with a rookie kicker. Should have gotten another quick first down take a shot for the end-zone, and THEN run time off the clock.

Maybe we were watching a rookie OC in over his head last night.

 

[cnsaguy]

I know it doesn't soothe any wounds, but it would be nice to see GOL fall on the sword for this one and just say "I made some bad decisions late in the game and this loss rests entirely on me".

Until then we can wait to hear KL tell us how TCU almost got upset, we have a young team, ...

Come to think of it, a bad loss like this tends to keep him away from the boards, so maybe there is a silver lining here.

 

[SublimeKnight]

We gave up 15 points last night - THATS A GOOD THING
We put up 14 points last night - THATS A BAD THING

I can't put this on Holman. Our run game was bad last night and someone (GOL or Key) thought it was a bright idea to run down the clock last night and put it on a true freshman kicker.

I agree. The fact that Holman put up the numbers he did, with absolutely no threat of a running attack is pretty remarkable.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Holman moves the f'n ball by passing and scrambling from the UCF 26 to the FIU 23.

Brent Key than decides to completely take the ball out of Holman's hands (his Jr QB) to rely on an O-Line and running game that was ineffective all night with the ultimate plan of putting the game on a kicker with ZERO experience.

I thought Holman was going to lead us to a win until Coach Key called the worst series of plays in UCF history.

I feel like I just woke up with a massive hangover and I didn't have a single drink yesterday. SMH

I agree 1000% Auggie!!. When I talked to Brent key during fall practice...it seemed like I was talking to a goof ball. I said to myself...OK, maybe it's me. BUT IT WASN"T!!! He could be a goof-ball!

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

I agree. The fact that Holman put up the numbers he did, with absolutely no threat of a running attack is pretty remarkable.

Holman did fine. It's the coaching staff and O-line that failed. More the coaching staff.

 

[Poolside Knight]

to rely on an O-Line and running game that was ineffective all night

the O-Line and running game has been ineffective since the 2013 Season

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

the O-Line and running game has been ineffective since the 2013 Season

especially when you try to run up the middle 3 times in a row!!! (and all other runs in the game)! WTH is the matter with these guys?? I thought we were going to have NEW INNOVATIVE play calling this year??? We have regressed backwards to Middle School JV play calling.

 

[KNIGHTTIME^]

This reminds me of a Tim Salem offense again! Please hire Taafe back!

 

[thecalciumbus]

The coaching on the last drive was as bad as ECU's coaching on the last drive in last year's game.

 

[knightraveler]

Holman moves the f'n ball by passing and scrambling from the UCF 26 to the FIU 23.

Brent Key than decides to completely take the ball out of Holman's hands (his Jr QB) to rely on an O-Line and running game that was ineffective all night with the ultimate plan of putting the game on a kicker with ZERO experience.

I thought Holman was going to lead us to a win until Coach Key called the worst series of plays in UCF history.

I feel like I just woke up with a massive hangover and I didn't have a single drink yesterday. SMH

My thoughts exactly. Can't think of a worse opening day loss. The O-line looks worst than last year and it was average at best last year with Holman running for his life seemingly every play. In my opinion UCF has succeeded in spite of the coaching staff over the years. The alumni have to put an end to this good ole boy system.

 

[Knight_Light]

Key might have been the one who called those exact plays (runs up the middle) but it was GOL who took the ball out of Hollman's hands and wanted to run down the clock. You could see it all over his smug face when FIU took their second TO, "Yes, they are succumbing to my superior game management."

It's the same song and dance weve seen from him before in late game situations, the only difference is we dont have the talent or experience on this year's team to get away with it.

I feel bad for the players since they're going to be put through the ringer in practice next week as punishment, but this loss falls chiefly on GOL, imho. You get shut out in the second half and then unexplicably throw ice water on a potential scoring drive to run out the clock, that's coaching.

Correct...just like GOL said immediately right after the game ended during his radio interview.

While Key (and UCF's offense) struggled especially during the last 3 quarters, it was GOL's decision, not Key's, to settle for the FG...but penalty, lost yardage on running plays, etc...ended up making it a 47 yd attempt.

No clue why even well after GOL stated it was his call, fans, even day or 2 later, are still blaming Key for not allowing Holman to throw the ball during final 3 plays.

I noted in another thread that maybe GOL had Knightmares of the Penn State game, when UCF scored "too early", which lead Penn State to drive right down the field for last second FG and the win.

Against FIU, I would have taken that chance and not worry as much to how much time was left on the clock if UCF scored a TD and took the lead. (FIU would have obviously had to score a TD as a FG would have done them no good).

 

[yellowshorts911]

Against FIU, I would have taken that chance and not worry as much to how much time was left on the clock if UCF scored a TD and took the lead. (FIU would have obviously had to score a TD as a FG would have done them no good).

Yep. It was dopey logic by GOL. FIU was not 'gashing' us. They had one good drive all game which was the result of two big plays and for the most part had trouble finishing drives because they lacked the playmakers and talent to complete drives. Our defense was doing its job for the most part. Coaching lost us this game.

 

[muckdawg24]

Yep. It was dopey logic by GOL. FIU was not 'gashing' us. They had one good drive all game which was the result of two big plays and for the most part had trouble finishing drives because they lacked the playmakers and talent to complete drives. Our defense was doing its job for the most part. Coaching lost us this game.

Not sure what game you were watching but they owned us the second half on offense. Even if we did manage a few yards on the ground you'll still looking at a 35 yd field goal which is not automatic for a rookie kicker.

 

[SCKnight]

No doubt that play calling cost the game, but it happens, a lot, in every program. I am always amazed at how quickly the boo birds come out at the very first sign of adversity. Does nobody remember how many game we pulled off at the last second over the last 2 years? Memphis, Temple, Houston (2x), ECU, Louisville? News flash: We will not be able to do that forever. If you don't like the state of UCF football you are welcome to see what happens when your view of your program gets too big for your britches and you are screaming for the "next big coach". Just look West. Be careful what you ask for. You might just get it.

 

[C-MontCityKnight2]

No doubt that play calling cost the game, but it happens, a lot, in every program. I am always amazed at how quickly the boo birds come out at the very first sign of adversity. Does nobody remember how many game we pulled off at the last second over the last 2 years? Memphis, Temple, Houston (2x), ECU, Louisville? News flash: We will not be able to do that forever. If you don't like the state of UCF football you are welcome to see what happens when your view of your program gets too big for your britches and you are screaming for the "next big coach". Just look West. Be careful what you ask for. You might just get it.

I bolded the games that in no way, shape, or form should EVER have come down to a last minute miracle play to win the game. How many times has Alabama had to come back to win against Vandy? It just doesn't happen, period. The fact is, in all those games (except for maybe 1 of the Houston teams we played) we were the much, much, much better team. However, garbage coaching decisions kept those teams in it.

Good teams don't let FBS bottom feeders beat them (UCONN, FIU, UAB, etc).

During GOL's tenure, we've lost to a school that doesn't even have a football team now, a school that likely won't even been FBS after this season, been absolutely decimated by supposed conference peers (loss by 40+ points) who have lesser recruiting ability than us, have lost to countless bad teams with losing records, and on and on it goes.

 

[SCKnight]

I bolded the games that in no way, shape, or form should EVER have come down to a last minute miracle play to win the game. How many times has Alabama had to come back to win against Vandy? It just doesn't happen, period. The fact is, in all those games (except for maybe 1 of the Houston teams we played) we were the much, much, much better team. However, garbage coaching decisions kept those teams in it.

Good teams don't let FBS bottom feeders beat them (UCONN, FIU, UAB, etc).

During GOL's tenure, we've lost to a school that doesn't even have a football team now, a school that likely won't even been FBS after this season, been absolutely decimated by supposed conference peers (loss by 40+ points) who have lesser recruiting ability than us, have lost to countless bad teams with losing records, and on and on it goes.

Wow. Are we the Alabama of the G5 now? Do you not see the hubris in your post? Are you sure you did not go to USF? Do really think that much of UCF's teams? If this is your thought pattern I pity you as you have a lifetime of heartache and disappointment in front of you. Lots of teams lose to bottom feeders. It happens every year to lots of good programs. Guess what, I am sure that Lousiville, Georgia, Baylor, NC State and Alabama all think they lost to a bottom feeder at some time in the last 10 years.

You are blind with hatred and need to get some comfort in your life. Either that or you are a really good troll and I am wasting my breath.

 

[C-MontCityKnight2]

Wow. Are we the Alabama of the G5 now? Do you not see the hubris in your post? Are you sure you did not go to USF? Do really think that much of UCF's teams? If this is your thought pattern I pity you as you have a lifetime of heartache and disappointment in front of you. Lots of teams lose to bottom feeders. It happens every year to lots of good programs. Guess what, I am sure that Lousiville, Georgia, Baylor, NC State and Alabama all think they lost to a bottom feeder at some time in the last 10 years.

You are blind with hatred and need to get some comfort in your life. Either that or you are a really good troll and I am wasting my breath.

There is reality, and then there is your post. FIU finished ranked 121 last year (there were 125 FBS teams last year). Reality is they ARE a bottom feeder. When UCF beat the teams you mentioned were easily in the top 40 or higher. One team is actually a bottom feeder and one isn't. It doesn't matter what teams "think", it doesn't even matter what I "think". The facts show FIU is a bottom feeder.

 

[SCKnight]

The facts show FIU is a bottom feeder.

Still brings to mind... so what? UF, Michigan, and many other lost to FBS teams? So what? It happens. Why are we special that it should not happen here?

 

[spacecoastknight]

There is reality, and then there is your post. FIU finished ranked 121 last year (there were 125 FBS teams last year). Reality is they ARE a bottom feeder. When UCF beat the teams you mentioned were easily in the top 40 or higher. One team is actually a bottom feeder and one isn't. It doesn't matter what teams "think", it doesn't even matter what I "think". The facts show FIU is a bottom feeder.

FIU is hardly a bottom feeder this year. I think they are a .500 team and we will be close to a .500 team also. We lost too much talent.

 

[AAC6800]

By now, we should be a top 25 team on a regular basis. We should be dominating everyone in our conference (most everyone). We are not recruiting great talent to reload year after year and are subject to terrible coaching/bad decisions. Unacceptable.

 

[goodknightfl]

By now, we should be a top 25 team on a regular basis. We should be dominating everyone in our conference (most everyone). We are not recruiting great talent to reload year after year and are subject to terrible coaching/bad decisions. Unacceptable.

You are aware we are at the end of schollie reductions that bite the hardest at the end. They are designed to hurt a program, by reducing depth, and experience. Anyone including coaches who really thought we were not going to have somewhat of a downturn was kidding themselves.

 

[SCKnight]

By now, we should be a top 25 team on a regular basis. We should be dominating everyone in our conference (most everyone). We are not recruiting great talent to reload year after year and are subject to terrible coaching/bad decisions. Unacceptable.

Wow Really? What planet do you live on? Top 25 on a regular basis? I live in Columbia SC and they have had 100 years of playing and alumni; play in the SEC; have 10x time the recruiting advantage we have, 20x the funding 5x the facilities. In the time GOL has been the coach USC has finished in the top 25 exactly 4 times. UCF has finished 2x. Now you tell me why UCF is so special that with almost no resources and no history we should be accomplishing what no program outside of about 10 nationwide can do? Get a grip on yourself.

 

[AAC6800]

Wow Really? What planet do you live on? Top 25 on a regular basis? I live in Columbia SC and they have had 100 years of playing and alumni; play in the SEC; have 10x time the recruiting advantage we have, 20x the funding 5x the facilities. In the time GOL has been the coach USC has finished in the top 25 exactly 4 times. UCF has finished 2x. Now you tell me why UCF is so special that with almost no resources and no history we should be accomplishing what no program outside of about 10 nationwide can do? Get a grip on yourself.

Yes, really. We don't play in the SEC-- We are in a very weak conference in a recruiting hotbed. It's plain and simple---it shouldn't be hard to have 10 win seasons consistently.

We aren't playing Alabama, Georgia, LSU, etc. .....

You've lost touch with reality.... We lose to teams like FIU, and play tons of games down to the wire on a consistent basis.

Bottom line.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Yes, really. We don't play in the SEC-- We are in a very weak conference in a recruiting hotbed. It's plain and simple---it shouldn't be hard to have 10 win seasons consistently.

We aren't playing Alabama, Georgia, LSU, etc. .....

You've lost touch with reality.... We lose to teams like FIU, and play tons of games down to the wire on a consistent basis.

Bottom line.

Aren't we right behind Boise for most wins by a non P5 school in the past 4-5 years? We've won 3 straight conference titles. What other P5 schools have been ranked besides us Boise and NIU recently? Non P5 teams just don't get ranked unless they go undefeated or 1 good loss, we could go 10-2 with our losses to Stanford and SC and still not be ranked.

Florida is a recruiting hotbed but it's a pond everyone fishes in, we don't just throw our line out and pull out whoever we want. It is also a poor state when it comes to academics, a lot of the high end kids we won't accept. That's why Marshall out recruits us, they don't care about grades just what you do on the field.

 

[SCKnight]

Yes, really. We don't play in the SEC-- We are in a very weak conference in a recruiting hotbed. It's plain and simple---it shouldn't be hard to have 10 win seasons consistently.

We aren't playing Alabama, Georgia, LSU, etc. .....

You've lost touch with reality.... We lose to teams like FIU, and play tons of games down to the wire on a consistent basis.

Bottom line.

You have lost touch with reality or you never understood it. We have never had the ability to compete in the top 25 consistently. You think it is a switch you turn on and it happens. USC has all the recruiting and money it could ever need to compete with Alabama, Georgia and LSU. They have all the p5 tools, but they do not compete. Why because it is very hard to be that much constantly better than your peers. There is nothing special about UCF that makes us that much better than ECU, USF, Temple, or any other AAC program that we should run the tables every season. That is what it would take to be in the top 25 each year. You are the worst kind of fan. Unrealistic elitist and impatient. Man, no wonder people hate our internet fanbase...

 

[FormerlyKnightInAtlanta]

Did Chez set up a second account?

 

[AAC6800]

You have lost touch with reality or you never understood it. We have never had the ability to compete in the top 25 consistently. You think it is a switch you turn on and it happens. USC has all the recruiting and money it could ever need to compete with Alabama, Georgia and LSU. They have all the p5 tools, but they do not compete. Why because it is very hard to be that much constantly better than your peers. There is nothing special about UCF that makes us that much better than ECU, USF, Temple, or any other AAC program that we should run the tables every season. That is what it would take to be in the top 25 each year. You are the worst kind of fan. Unrealistic elitist and impatient. Man, no wonder people hate our internet fanbase...

Sounds like you have lost touch with reality..... Of course we've never had the ability to be in the top 25 consistently---that's the problem!

In the conferences we have played in, there's no reason we shouldn't be up there often. Our recruiting over the years have been sub par---

Nothing special about UCF over others in our conference?? HUH?..... You have to be out of you're friggin' mind! There's not enough time here to educate you on this...

Worst kind of fan? Look in the mirror! hahahaha!

 

[Auggie25]

Aren't we right behind Boise for most wins by a non P5 school in the past 4-5 years? We've won 3 straight conference titles.

 

[firm_bizzle]

 

[Poolside Knight]

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