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I signed up to have it automatically download on my home PC. Am i going to like it?
 
For lack of a better place to rant, I'm doing it here.

I just took a coding test for a job with a gaming engine company. This company is very well known and their product is used in many well-known games. This is as close to high-tech as you can get in the programming world.

...and they pulled their programming test right out of 1996. It was a bunch of stuff I learned in Computer Science 2, back in 1997, and haven't had to worry about since! Sorting algorithms, linked lists, memory allocation...

I just wanted to write a single paragraph on the test telling them they are a bunch of idiots and there are libraries and data structures galore that do all of this for you now.
 
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I'm going to upgrade just because. Maybe it will make my POS laptop not run so shitty, but I doubt it. Time to upgrade to a surface.
 
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I've got a Lenovo all-in-one at home so I'm guessing mine will upgrade?

Can someone explain to me in non techgreek terms what is so different on Windows 10? And why it's better?
 
My Skynet is ready.
WIndows won't be Skynet until it's bought by Apple (which will be owned by Disney, which will be owned by Newscorp, which has then been purchased by Coke, of course Coke will be owned by Wal-mart, which will be owned by #Blacklivesmatter LLC).
 
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How long does it take for it to allow to install. I registered this morning and I'm still waiting.
 
Have none of you heard of Linux (Ubuntu, Mint). I've been Windows free for 7 years and love it. Hadn't had to run a virus checker for years until recently. At least with all you downloading a free OS you finally get to experience what I've been for years, except I get a good OS, not crap MS.
 
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WIndows won't be Skynet until it's bought by Apple (which will be owned by Disney, which will be owned by Newscorp, which has then been purchased by Coke, of course Coke will be owned by Wal-mart, which will be owned by #Blacklivesmatter LLC).
You haven't experienced my Skynet.
 
WIndows won't be Skynet until it's bought by Apple (which will be owned by Disney, which will be owned by Newscorp, which has then been purchased by Coke, of course Coke will be owned by Wal-mart, which will be owned by #Blacklivesmatter LLC).

Hard to believe satan's offspring, the Koch brothers, aren't involved in there somewhere.
 
Sorry to go kinda BS on everyone with a long post but I'll keep my replies short.

I signed up to have it automatically download on my home PC. Am i going to like it?
I think so. The reviews are quite positive. I like it (but of course I would!) and I'm actually surprised at how positive the tech press has been.

Is it much different from 8?
Yes. Especially if you use a mouse and keyboard primarily. Lots of new little nice features everywhere

For lack of a better place to rant, I'm doing it here.

I just took a coding test for a job with a gaming engine company. This company is very well known and their product is used in many well-known games. This is as close to high-tech as you can get in the programming world.

...and they pulled their programming test right out of 1996. It was a bunch of stuff I learned in Computer Science 2, back in 1997, and haven't had to worry about since! Sorting algorithms, linked lists, memory allocation...

I just wanted to write a single paragraph on the test telling them they are a bunch of idiots and there are libraries and data structures galore that do all of this for you now.
LOL. I'd immediately fail. But then again, I'm honestly not the best developer in the traditional sense. I'm more of a hacker. But they really should get with the times and do situational interviewing like the rest of the world. Or at least ask you to solve puzzles or something and not just quiz you on algorithms and other shit 99% of developers never see.

I'm going to upgrade just because. Maybe it will make my POS laptop not run so shitty, but I doubt it. Time to upgrade to a surface.
Depends on how old your machine is. Might want to do the upgrade and then do a reset to clean it back to a stock OS?

I've got a Lenovo all-in-one at home so I'm guessing mine will upgrade?

Can someone explain to me in non techgreek terms what is so different on Windows 10? And why it's better?
It won't just upgrade automatically. You have to tell it to. If your PC has the latest updates you should likely see a little white windows logo kinda by the clock in your task bar. Click on it and it should let you "reserve" your upgrade. Then it'll at some point download and offer to install it. There's other ways to kick it off manually but that's best left to the "techgreeks".

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/features

Going to wait a few months, let most of the initial problems get fixed, and then upgrade.
I don't understand this mindset. It is presently better than Windows 7 and 8. Unless you're running some sort of uber mission critical stuff that you can't risk any downtime or something there's really no point in waiting. This isn't the old days where in 6 months to a year Microsoft is going to release SP1 which just has bug fixes. They're going to be continually updating it with new features and bug fixes. That's why they refer to this as "the last version of Windows" because the rest will be more incremental updates.

I currently have Windows 7. What will upgrading to 10 do for me?
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/features

Meh new Windows. Got 7 Pro @ work otherwise it's all Chromebook, droid phone, iphone or tablet.
My company is extremely slow to change but I've heard multiple reports of us rolling out Windows 10 much more quickly than we traditionally have. There's a lot of enterprise benefits baked in. Windows 10 runs on all sorts of devices though.

How long does it take for it to allow to install. I registered this morning and I'm still waiting.
You can check in Windows Update to see if it's there. I know a lot of people are already getting it. Otherwise if you really want it faster you can download the installer from Microsoft manually and do it that way.

Have none of you heard of Linux (Ubuntu, Mint). I've been Windows free for 7 years and love it. Hadn't had to run a virus checker for years until recently. At least with all you downloading a free OS you finally get to experience what I've been for years, except I get a good OS, not crap MS.
LOL. I must've missed the UCFBS name change. Also, shocked you didn't refer to Microsoft as M$.
 
Have none of you heard of Linux (Ubuntu, Mint). I've been Windows free for 7 years and love it. Hadn't had to run a virus checker for years until recently. At least with all you downloading a free OS you finally get to experience what I've been for years, except I get a good OS, not crap MS.
The motherboard died in my laptop and now I'm thinking of picking up one those dell laptops that comes with Ubuntu.. I used to run Ubuntu on my desktop, but doing work from it became too difficult.
 
The motherboard died in my laptop and now I'm thinking of picking up one those dell laptops that comes with Ubuntu.. I used to run Ubuntu on my desktop, but doing work from it became too difficult.
Why not buy a cheap Windows laptop or Chromebook? Microsoft and Google don't charge for the OS on those devices so it's not like you're going to get better hardware for the buck by buying something with Ubuntu. And at least it would be supported.
 
Sorry to go kinda BS on everyone with a long post but I'll keep my replies short.


I think so. The reviews are quite positive. I like it (but of course I would!) and I'm actually surprised at how positive the tech press has been.


Yes. Especially if you use a mouse and keyboard primarily. Lots of new little nice features everywhere


LOL. I'd immediately fail. But then again, I'm honestly not the best developer in the traditional sense. I'm more of a hacker. But they really should get with the times and do situational interviewing like the rest of the world. Or at least ask you to solve puzzles or something and not just quiz you on algorithms and other shit 99% of developers never see.


Depends on how old your machine is. Might want to do the upgrade and then do a reset to clean it back to a stock OS?


It won't just upgrade automatically. You have to tell it to. If your PC has the latest updates you should likely see a little white windows logo kinda by the clock in your task bar. Click on it and it should let you "reserve" your upgrade. Then it'll at some point download and offer to install it. There's other ways to kick it off manually but that's best left to the "techgreeks".

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/features


I don't understand this mindset. It is presently better than Windows 7 and 8. Unless you're running some sort of uber mission critical stuff that you can't risk any downtime or something there's really no point in waiting. This isn't the old days where in 6 months to a year Microsoft is going to release SP1 which just has bug fixes. They're going to be continually updating it with new features and bug fixes. That's why they refer to this as "the last version of Windows" because the rest will be more incremental updates.


http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/features


My company is extremely slow to change but I've heard multiple reports of us rolling out Windows 10 much more quickly than we traditionally have. There's a lot of enterprise benefits baked in. Windows 10 runs on all sorts of devices though.


You can check in Windows Update to see if it's there. I know a lot of people are already getting it. Otherwise if you really want it faster you can download the installer from Microsoft manually and do it that way.


LOL. I must've missed the UCFBS name change. Also, shocked you didn't refer to Microsoft as M$.
Yeah, I was thinking of wiping it clean. But then I have to do stuff and I'm pretty against that.
 
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I don't understand this mindset. It is presently better than Windows 7 and 8. Unless you're running some sort of uber mission critical stuff that you can't risk any downtime or something there's really no point in waiting. This isn't the old days where in 6 months to a year Microsoft is going to release SP1 which just has bug fixes. They're going to be continually updating it with new features and bug fixes. That's why they refer to this as "the last version of Windows" because the rest will be more incremental updates.
Serioiusly? I know youre a big Windows guy but come on. I cant take your MS knowledge seriously if you actually believe any of that.

What in MS long history makes you believe that, let alone they wont be doing a SP1 in 6 months? Have you read any of the initial reviews of Win10? Everyone is saying its great, but lots of bugs. Sounds like every single other MS OS release to me.

So yea, Im pretty damn happy with my Win7 computer right now. Ill wait till they drop Win10 SP1 and then upgrade. I might upgrade my wife's laptop/tablet from 8.1 to 10, because 8.1 sucks so bad.
 
Serioiusly? I know youre a big Windows guy but come on. I cant take your MS knowledge seriously if you actually believe any of that.

What in MS long history makes you believe that, let alone they wont be doing a SP1 in 6 months? Have you read any of the initial reviews of Win10? Everyone is saying its great, but lots of bugs. Sounds like every single other MS OS release to me.

So yea, Im pretty damn happy with my Win7 computer right now. Ill wait till they drop Win10 SP1 and then upgrade. I might upgrade my wife's laptop/tablet from 8.1 to 10, because 8.1 sucks so bad.
I will bet my bank account that there will not be a SP1. There will be updates released, some larger than others. They will contain new features and changes to the design of the OS as well as bug fixes. Rumor has it the first large update is planned for fall and another is planned for next spring. Outside of Windows XP SP2, service packs have traditionally not contained significant feature updates. When did Windows 8 SP1 come out? How about Windows 8.1 SP1? You can try to call Windows 8.1 a service pack but the way it was delivered, the licensing around it, etc all dictate otherwise. There was sorta a service pack released for Win8.1 last fall but it wasn't branded as such nor really installed as such. More of an update rollup.

Are there bugs currently? Of course. They'll get fixed over time and as new features are introduced new bugs will be introduced as well. If you want to wait to upgrade be my guest. But this is apropos of waiting til iOS 8.1 to update to iOS 8 and in this case millions of people have been running the OS for months in preview form and for weeks in final form.

The talk of Windows as a service is not just bluster. It's a new era. Might as well jump in now. The water's warm.
 
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Why not buy a cheap Windows laptop or Chromebook? Microsoft and Google don't charge for the OS on those devices so it's not like you're going to get better hardware for the buck by buying something with Ubuntu. And at least it would be supported.
My wife's laptop runs Windows as well as our desktop. I can get a dell laptop running Ubuntu for 300. Sure it won't be a beast, but it doesn't need to be.
 
I will bet my bank account that there will not be a SP1. There will be updates released, some larger than others. They will contain new features and changes to the design of the OS as well as bug fixes. Rumor has it the first large update is planned for fall and another is planned for next spring. Outside of Windows XP SP2, service packs have traditionally not contained significant feature updates. When did Windows 8 SP1 come out? How about Windows 8.1 SP1? You can try to call Windows 8.1 a service pack but the way it was delivered, the licensing around it, etc all dictate otherwise. There was sorta a service pack released for Win8.1 last fall but it wasn't branded as such nor really installed as such. More of an update rollup.

Are there bugs currently? Of course. They'll get fixed over time and as new features are introduced new bugs will be introduced as well. If you want to wait to upgrade be my guest. But this is apropos of waiting til iOS 8.1 to update to iOS 8 and in this case millions of people have been running the OS for months in preview form and for weeks in final form.

The talk of Windows as a service is not just bluster. It's a new era. Might as well jump in now. The water's warm.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

You are correct, there will likely never be a "service pack" again. Just because its not officially called a service pack doesnt mean it isnt one. 8.1 was a service pack, hate to burst your bubble.

So yes, I will wait until 10.1 is released before I jump on board.
 
My wife's laptop runs Windows as well as our desktop. I can get a dell laptop running Ubuntu for 300. Sure it won't be a beast, but it doesn't need to be.
I just checked and you can get the same Dell laptop running Ubuntu or Windows for the same exact price. I mean if you're weird and you prefer Ubuntu, go for it. Curiously, Dell offers lower-spec'd Windows machines for lower prices than the starting configuration running Ubuntu. So if prices is your primary concern, Windows is actually a better choice.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

You are correct, there will likely never be a "service pack" again. Just because its not officially called a service pack doesnt mean it isnt one. 8.1 was a service pack, hate to burst your bubble.

So yes, I will wait until 10.1 is released before I jump on board.
So what happens when "10.1" is released and it's no less buggy than "10.0"? You can claim that I'm splitting hairs with naming all you want but 8.1 does not meet the characteristics of a service pack nor do the planned updates for Windows 10. And this idea that Windows 10 is so buggy as to be unusable in it's current state is absurd. Like I said, if you're not doing mission critical work on your machine Windows 10 is plenty stable and bug free to be used as a primary machine. The benefits far outweigh the downsides of an occasional bug. I've been using preview builds for several months on my primary machine.

Suit yourself if you're afraid. But as someone who's actually been using it for quite a while, since back when it did have loads of bugs, I would not let this get in the way of upgrading by any means.
 
So what happens when "10.1" is released and it's no less buggy than "10.0"? You can claim that I'm splitting hairs with naming all you want but 8.1 does not meet the characteristics of a service pack nor do the planned updates for Windows 10. And this idea that Windows 10 is so buggy as to be unusable in it's current state is absurd. Like I said, if you're not doing mission critical work on your machine Windows 10 is plenty stable and bug free to be used as a primary machine. The benefits far outweigh the downsides of an occasional bug. I've been using preview builds for several months on my primary machine.

Suit yourself if you're afraid. But as someone who's actually been using it for quite a while, since back when it did have loads of bugs, I would not let this get in the way of upgrading by any means.
If its no less buggy, I'll continue to wait. Win7 runs just fine. It will still be better than 8.1 for my wife, so shell definitely get the upgrade by then.

Again, just because they arent labeled as service packs doesnt mean they arent. Microsoft learned a lot about marketing with the mojave project. This is them putting that knowledge to use.

Congrats on being an early adopter. Your good/bad experiences will help make Win10 much better for me when I decide to upgrade.
 
I just checked and you can get the same Dell laptop running Ubuntu or Windows for the same exact price. I mean if you're weird and you prefer Ubuntu, go for it. Curiously, Dell offers lower-spec'd Windows machines for lower prices than the starting configuration running Ubuntu. So if prices is your primary concern, Windows is actually a better choice.

I really just don't want another windows machine, and I don't feel like paying for a MacBook.
I ran redhat in college and liked it even though drivers were a nightmare, however that was a while a go and drivers aren't really a problem these days.
 
I got it- I like it.

It's MUCH better for people like me who used the mouse/keyboard 99% of the time. I've yet to really use the touch feature.

They did a good job with the design and functionality.
 
No touch feature for me, since Skynet is hooked up to the projector, but I like what I saw last night. Will have to play with it more this weekend.


(that's what she said)
 
Checked it over the weekend. Pretty cool. Seems a tad bit faster. I like having the tiles on the side without having to leave the desktop.
 
I was out of town so I missed the initial panic. I am going to start small and load it on my kids machines and then see if I like it. If it annoys me, I will wait to load it on my work machine until I get comfortable with it on my non-work stuff.
 
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