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Hate Crimes against Asian Americans

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Diamond Knight
Nov 30, 2003
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What the hell is going on with people in this country? What's behind THIS latest round of craziness?

Any guesses?
I was listening to a talk radio show last week where they were talking about this. Apparently it's been going on for a few years in San Francisco and New York City but there isn't a good explanation for why. The commonly held belief is that this is because of Covid but it was happening before that. Who knows.
 
It appears to be on the increase.

This is an issue that nobody wants to speak honestly about, because the majority of attacks aren’t coming from white people.
 

What the hell is going on with people in this country? What's behind THIS latest round of craziness?

Any guesses?
Answer: FRUMP trump was in office for 4 years along with right wing brainless idiots.
 

What the hell is going on with people in this country? What's behind THIS latest round of craziness?

Any guesses?
Nice try... to have a discussion... I listened to the press conference and they are implying the shooter was addicted to sex and was simply trying to erase the contributor of his addiction. So it appears to not be a hate crime but who knows at this point. I bet they end up finding some hate paraphernalia or paraphilia in the investigation.
 
Nice try... to have a discussion... I listened to the press conference and they are implying the shooter was addicted to sex and was simply trying to erase the contributor of his addiction.
That, or he got a REALLY BAD hand job. ;)
 
Nice try... to have a discussion... I listened to the press conference and they are implying the shooter was addicted to sex and was simply trying to erase the contributor of his addiction. So it appears to not be a hate crime but who knows at this point. I bet they end up finding some hate paraphernalia or paraphilia in the investigation.
They’ll probably find a bunch of anime and pop funk dolls.
 
Shook racist to Asians too? Already seen the racial slurs towards African Americans.
People who aren’t funny usually try to go for shock humor, so they end up saying things in really poor taste. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Odd thing to make a joke about... 8 people died yesterday.
 
You have to forgive those in San Fran. They have had to see and listen to Citizen Nancy and her booze ridden BS rants for so long they have gone nuts.
 
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Can't just leave, need to beat the heck out of a 59 year old woman.
 

Can't just leave, need to beat the heck out of a 59 year old woman.
FFS. If we could just get white supremacy under control...
 
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Wow....I guess racism is a human condition and not limited to Caucasians. Who knew? 🙄
Of course it is. Lots of denial about that in America these days though. It’s not gonna get better if it’s continually framed as a problem that depends solely on white people changing.
 
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Of course it is. Lots of denial about that in America these days though.
Yeah, there's quite a bit of denial out there -- but your post illustrates where the denial is coming from -- white people like you and me.
It’s not gonna get better if it’s continually framed as a problem that depends solely on white people changing.
Who said its solely on white people to change? But let's be honest, our system was crafted and has been run for over 200 years by white males just like you and me.

If we're unwilling to admit the system has built-in biases and prejudices that need to be reexamined because our society is made up of women and minorities too, it isn't going to get better.
 
Yeah, there's quite a bit of denial out there -- but your post illustrates where the denial is coming from -- white people like you and me.
Who said its solely on white people to change? But let's be honest, our system was crafted and has been run for over 200 years by white males just like you and me.

If we're unwilling to admit the system has built-in biases and prejudices that need to be reexamined because our society is made up of women and minorities too, it isn't going to get better.
The bold underlined portion is the problem with you. You look at people based on immutable characteristics and assume they’re all just alike.

No, the systems we have were not set up by people like me. I share skin color with some of them, but we grew up in very different worlds. Most were wealthy. Most owned considerable amounts of land. All of them experienced a world that was far more difficult to survive in.

I grew up in a blue collar family and nobody I’ve ever been able to find in my ancestry owned anything of even marginally significant value.

I don’t have anything in common with the founders other than skin color. I can’t think of anything less significant than that.
 
No, the systems we have were not set up by people like me. I share skin color with some of them, but we grew up in very different worlds. Most were wealthy. Most owned considerable amounts of land. All of them experienced a world that was far more difficult to survive in. I grew up in a blue collar family and nobody I’ve ever been able to find in my ancestry owned anything of even marginally significant value.
Me too. Do we deserve medals? Let me guess: We succeeded where others failed because we were hard workers who didn't slack off like other folks do. We certainly didn't experience any white privilege in our lifetimes, right amigo?
I don’t have anything in common with the founders other than skin color. I can’t think of anything less significant than that.
As long as you wax-poetic about 'how different' you are from the western civilization of white males who established and have led this country for over 200 years, you don't 'get it.'
 
Me too. Do we deserve medals? Let me guess: We succeeded where others failed because we were hard workers who didn't slack off like other folks do. We certainly didn't experience any white privilege in our lifetimes, right amigo?
As long as you wax-poetic about 'how different' you are from the western civilization of white males who established and have led this country for over 200 years, you don't 'get it.'
Of course, and I know and have worked with a good number of minorities who have found themselves fabulously successful (far more successful than I am) because they’ve not bought into the idea that someone or something else (white supremacy) is holding them down. They’ve taken it upon themselves to find out where they can do something better than other people and chased it. That seems to pay off more times than not, without regard to someone’s skin color.

I know, grew up with, and have watched other people (whites and minorities) take a lazy approach to life and never rise above where they started. Those people more frequently believe that their origin rather than their behavior has been what’s doomed them.

It’s not helpful to minorities who haven’t been successful to throw out white supremacy as an excuse for their troubles. The victim mentality doesn’t boast many examples of success, but it does soothe the egos of those who neglected making themselves into something useful to the world when they find the world doesn’t want to reward them. Coming to grips with the idea that you’re the cause of 99% of your problems, and it will take hard work and discipline to turn your life around is hard. Being told that your problems are the responsibility of other people to fix is much more appealing. Only one of those things actually brings you any closer to the life you probably want.
 
Of course, and I know and have worked with a good number of minorities who have found themselves fabulously successful (far more successful than I am) because they’ve not bought into the idea that someone or something else (white supremacy) is holding them down. They’ve taken it upon themselves to find out where they can do something better than other people and chased it. That seems to pay off more times than not, without regard to someone’s skin color.
I've seen the same thing. They get how the game is played and play it well.
It’s not helpful to minorities who haven’t been successful to throw out white supremacy as an excuse for their troubles.
It's not an 'excuse' to acknowledge the game is being played by our rules, not minorities or the 50% of the population who are women. As their voices gain more and more power, have you noticed the attempts to 'change the rules' in an effort to hold on to our power?
The victim mentality doesn’t boast many examples of success
Funny how the 'victim mentality' plays differently when we're talking about the poor 'victims' of last year's election results. Rigged = More and more minorities in this country voting!!!!
 
I've seen the same thing. They get how the game is played and play it well.
It's not an 'excuse' to acknowledge the game is being played by our rules, not minorities or the 50% of the population who are women. As their voices gain more and more power, have you noticed the attempts to 'change the rules' in an effort to hold on to our power?
Funny how the 'victim mentality' plays differently when we're talking about the poor 'victims' of last year's election results. Rigged = More and more minorities in this country voting!!!!
Wtf does “the game is being played by our rules” mean? What exactly are you proposing should be changed to accommodate someone who neglects their education, exhibits no work ethic, lives only for the moment, and still decides that someone else is to blame for their lack of a future?

And before you make any assumptions I’m talking about any particular race, I’m not. I have an immediate family member who fits that description to a T.
 
What exactly are you proposing should be changed to accommodate someone who ... exhibits no work ethic, lives only for the moment, and still decides that someone else is to blame for their lack of a future?
That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with there, pal.
What exactly are you proposing should be changed to accommodate someone who neglects their education?
"Neglect" is not always what it might appear. I have a good friend who is dean of admissions at a prestigious Virginia state university. He said every year he sees aspiring first generation college students who are Black who apply for admission with near-perfect or perfect A averages who have taken average high school programs of study in high schools that often offer honors and AP courses. Often the letters of 'recommendation' from the student's HS guidance counselor are damning in faint praise and, in some cases, they actually opine that the student would be 'best suited' for a community college or trade school.

Now keep in mind that these students are from families where no one they know has ever gone to college before. So who recommends the program of study these aspiring first generation college students take? Guess what? It's their HS guidance counselors! THAT'S an example of a system that's playing by different rules depending on who you are and how much money your parents make.
 
I hope Muriel Bowser addresses the killing of the Asian man in DC by 2 black teenage girls. I also hope that somebody can explain why the national guard troops were just stepping over his body and letting the girls try to find their phone.
 
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Just wow. I guess it was the victims fault that 2 girls tased him, stole his car, and murdered him.
 
They should say a way reduce violent crime is to come to terms with the radical left.
Is there a way to rehabilitate people that act like savages? I can't see a path forward for these 2 girls to ever be productive members of society. Maybe penal colonies weren't the worst idea in the world.
 
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Violence used against the innocent is wrong. I don't believe in the hate crime nonsense. You break a mans leg with a bat, it is wrong, and I assume you probably don't have love in your heart for the dude. It is the same crime no matter the motive.
 
Me too. Do we deserve medals? Let me guess: We succeeded where others failed because we were hard workers who didn't slack off like other folks do. We certainly didn't experience any white privilege in our lifetimes, right amigo?
As long as you wax-poetic about 'how different' you are from the western civilization of white males who established and have led this country for over 200 years, you don't 'get it.'

Racism is a human condition of ones heart and our DNA programmed for survival to distrust others who are not like us. It's a tribal thing left over from thousands of years.

I think Knight in TN misses something when he says we have nothing in common other than skin color. I also take issue with this white men ruled for 200 years thing too.

I value liberty,the individual and limited government just as the founders did. I have that in common with them. If you love the Bill of Rights and the Constitution then their ideas are timeless regardless of these men's flaws or moral lapses. There is not a single perfect soul on this earth and using the lefts standards we need to toss out the Constitution and Bill of Rights because they owned slaves or women couldn't vote simply because they didn't live up to 21st standards is ridiculous. It's called context people.

In 1776 globally women had no rights and to this day in many Arab and African nations women have no rights. Back then slavery was a global industry. It was the norm and today slavery still exist in our world. Slavery was bad and still is.

So, when , yes , some white dudes say the king is oppressive , tyranny sucks and they do something about it, they made a huge change . They in 1787 when they realized the Articles of Confederation weren't working the states headed down the road to drafting the first ever Constitutional Republic. We ARE NOT a democracy.

For the first time in the history of mankind we put it on paper that Government would be there to serve the people and we put limits on the government to respect the individual and ensure liberty. We for the first time said the individual matters more . You only saw this in the Bible until the American Constitution.

So, our founders were radical white dudes and they knew slavery was morally reprehensible. Thomas Jefferson said as much in the first draft of the Declaration of Independence. They also knew politics and politics of the day ,like now , you can't make gigantic shifts you make incremental ones and so yes, they did not solve slavery nor did they give women the right to vote, but they created a document that could be amended to address the big issues down the road. Our western way of life is truly rooted in the American Constitution and our ability to keep individual liberty both personal and economic secure, which also included property rights.

point is it takes time to change culturally for some things ,so you start where you can and that's what our founders did. Seventy years later our nation would engage in a bloody war to finally address slavery issue the hard way. Had they tried to solve it in 1791 the United States doesn't happen in my opinion. For the record my great great uncle a Sgt in union blues died at Gettysburg to end the scurge of slavery. Was he a racist ? I don't know. But he died for something bigger than he was as an individual. He died for liberty for all of us black or white.

So, in my opinion the left doesn't get it. They ignore context and they ignore the genocide and bondage that exists today. People are people , some of people are racist but many are not. Our founders were brilliant men and their good ideas live on today in our country and the norms of their time are a bygone era. I reject the notion that their ideas are flawed because of the time they lived in. Truth is truth be it 2000 years ago or today . it's timeless.
 
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Is there a way to rehabilitate people that act like savages? I can't see a path forward for these 2 girls to ever be productive members of society. Maybe penal colonies weren't the worst idea in the world.
Penal colonies are for cock-Asians.
 
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