why dont you ever see conservatives interrupt, scream and be disruptive during hearings? I’ve heard at least a half dozen protesters already in the first half hour.
Have the Kavanaugh confirmations on in the background
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Four more, there should be much stiffer punishment. Don’t t these mutants have jobs?
I said it yesterday- Grassley should just shut these morons up by cancelling the hearings and call a vote. These are all D's who vowed months ago to vote NO anyways so their antics are purely to turn the Senate into a circus.
That said, can't wait for Justice Kavanaugh.
That said, can't wait for Justice Kavanaugh.
Because they block the hearings all together.
Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, also pointed to the fact that Obama appointed Justice Elena Kagan to the court during a midterm year in 2010. She was confirmed a few months before the elections.
No need to watch the hearings .... here is the ending.
Republicans all vote "aye" for Judge Kavanaugh
Democrats all vote "nay" for Judge [insert name here cause it doesn't matter]
Republicans all vote "aye" for Judge Kavanaugh
Democrats all vote "nay" for Judge [insert name here cause it doesn't matter]
Actually there are 4-5 Red State Dems who are likely to lose this November who WILL absolutely lose if they shamefully vote No on such a qualified pick.
I hope they all vote No just to assure their defeat.
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Oh my, how pathetic you've become here. Your own narrative collapsed upon itself and now you've resorted to this.
Wow ... I guess the entire government stops because somebody is investigating something. Cool story.
He's being investigated
When the dems win the house in November he will be impeached.
SUPREME COURT CONFIRMATIONS HAVE BECOME ABSURDLY PARTISAN
Editorial by Kevin Ryan
There was once a time when the Senate understood that Supreme Court confirmations were about determining whether the nominee was qualified, and would uphold the Constitution. Today the vote is more about opposing the other party’s nominee at all costs, no matter who it is, unless your district voted for the other party in the last presidential election.
That’s literally all it’s become.
Every Democratic Senator not in a district that Trump won will vote against Judge Brett Kavanaugh, no matter how well he performs during the confirmation, and no matter how well qualified he is. That’s been the trend on both sides of the aisle, ever since Democrats successfully defeated President Reagan’s nomination of Robert Bork in 1987 by defaming his character during confirmation hearings, and then nearly “Borked” President George H.W. Bush’s nomination of Clarence Thomas in 1991.
Since then, confirmations have devolved into reality TV shows, complete with lunatics interrupting to shout obscenities, Senators predicting the end of the world if the nominee is confirmed, and very little in the way of substance.
It’s a far cry from what the confirmation process used to be.
There have been 150 nominations to the Supreme Court in America’s history.
• 79% of them were voted on and confirmed.
• 71% of them were confirmed by greater than two-thirds of the vote.
• 57% received 90% or greater yes votes.
• Fully 49% were confirmed unanimously.
Yet today, a nominee like Brett Kavanaugh, who has universal acclaim from his peers as one of the most well qualified judges in the country, and whom the American Bar Association unanimously gave its highest rating, will be subjected to a week of “Borking” by opposing Senators who will vilify him and seek to portray him as somehow a radical and out of the mainstream…
…despite the fact that 97% of his rulings sided with majority and 94% of them were unanimous.
SOURCES:
https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/nominations/Nominations.htm
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/po...to-get-underway-on-Trump-Supreme-13202339.php
Editorial by Kevin Ryan
There was once a time when the Senate understood that Supreme Court confirmations were about determining whether the nominee was qualified, and would uphold the Constitution. Today the vote is more about opposing the other party’s nominee at all costs, no matter who it is, unless your district voted for the other party in the last presidential election.
That’s literally all it’s become.
Every Democratic Senator not in a district that Trump won will vote against Judge Brett Kavanaugh, no matter how well he performs during the confirmation, and no matter how well qualified he is. That’s been the trend on both sides of the aisle, ever since Democrats successfully defeated President Reagan’s nomination of Robert Bork in 1987 by defaming his character during confirmation hearings, and then nearly “Borked” President George H.W. Bush’s nomination of Clarence Thomas in 1991.
Since then, confirmations have devolved into reality TV shows, complete with lunatics interrupting to shout obscenities, Senators predicting the end of the world if the nominee is confirmed, and very little in the way of substance.
It’s a far cry from what the confirmation process used to be.
There have been 150 nominations to the Supreme Court in America’s history.
• 79% of them were voted on and confirmed.
• 71% of them were confirmed by greater than two-thirds of the vote.
• 57% received 90% or greater yes votes.
• Fully 49% were confirmed unanimously.
Yet today, a nominee like Brett Kavanaugh, who has universal acclaim from his peers as one of the most well qualified judges in the country, and whom the American Bar Association unanimously gave its highest rating, will be subjected to a week of “Borking” by opposing Senators who will vilify him and seek to portray him as somehow a radical and out of the mainstream…
…despite the fact that 97% of his rulings sided with majority and 94% of them were unanimous.
SOURCES:
https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/nominations/Nominations.htm
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/po...to-get-underway-on-Trump-Supreme-13202339.php
I hope they try. I hope they cave to the extremist left wing of their party, which is taking control of the DNC, and attempt to impeach Trump for nothing more than disliking him. It would assure a Trump 2020 win and a counter red-wave to push back against the socialists and extremists running the DNC.
#Resistance liberals have figured things out - the Jewish Mexican American woman sitting behind Kavanaugh is a secret White Nationalist who is flashing secret KKK hand signals
God, you can't make this shit up.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/09...sh-making-hand-signals-behind-kavanaugh-post/
God, you can't make this shit up.https://hotair.com/archives/2018/09...sh-making-hand-signals-behind-kavanaugh-post/
The sad truth is that judicial ideologues aren't impossible to get approved like they used to be.
Once upon a time, the 60 vote rule made it impossible to get a judge like Bork approved by the Senate. Not anymore with the simple majority rule.
In a year where people weren’t acting insane a guy like Kavanaugh gets 65-70 votes easily
The sad truth is that you’ve got more than enough judicial ideologues in the lower federal courts. Another sad truth is the democrats’ actions are further eroding people’s confidence in the system.
The entire system is a complete joke. Presidents shouldn't appoint Supreme Court justices and justices shouldn't serve for life. Politics also shouldn't play a role in selections that are supposed to be based on the rule of law. Need to scrap the entire selection process and think of a better way.
How would you select the judges then? If they were elected it would be all about politics.
I really think popular elections for Senators broke the system. How do we get the Senate to start working for the states again rather than their parties and their campaigns? How do we reverse the populist trend in the Senate when it was explicitly given certain powers because it wasn’t supposed to be a body governed by populism.
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That’s because you don’t understand the system. Presidents don’t “appoint” anything- they nominate a candidate and the Senate then votes to confirm them or not.
And it’s worked fine. We’ve pretty much always gotten high quality judges including right now. The thing that has changed is that we now have moron grandstanding Senators who have turned the process into a political spectacle and debacle.
We had Cory Booker on CNN last night hilariously trying to insist that he broke senate rules while Anderson Cooper reminds him that he actually didn’t. This is where we’re at. A senator who is supposed to be carefully considering a SC candidate is instead trying to use the process to shoot a 2020 campaign soundbite about how Woke he is and how awesome he was for breaking senate rules
My fix is real simple: stop these sham hearings all together. Senators can meet privately and submit questions in writing that they want answered. It would end this sham spectacle and take away the cameras for those who are there purely to shoot a campaign ad
It’s only broken when liberals are not in the White House. I don’t remember the outrage and protesting when Sotomayor or Leagan where going through the process and we all knew what and who they were. Sad thing is, neither have the qualifications of Kavanaugh. It’s the fringe left that has turned this country into the political shit show it is.
The hearings are public for the benefit of the public, the people need to have a say in the confirmation of a supreme court judge. This mechanism is maintained through public hearings allowing the people to see what the nominee has to say. If the people believe the nominee is inappropriate, they pressure their elected senators to vote no.
My take is Kavanaugh is not an appropriate nominee, he might be qualified as a republican agent and has a long track record, but he is too partisan to sit on the supreme court. He will not be a check on a republican executive branch, and that under this president should urge you to contact your senators and tell them to have the executive nominate someone else.
The Senate needs to go back to requiring 60/40 votes for supreme court nominees, until we get back to that I don't want to see any supreme court nominations.
In today’s hyper-partisan world, you aren’t going to get nominees confirmed at 60/40. Reid knew it and that’s why he nuked the rule. Kavanaugh may be the best qualified candidate we’ve seen in our lifetimes and certainly no more partisan than Sotomayor or Kagan. The problem is that the Court is supposed to be blind to political parties and yet the Senate has made the confirmations political going back decades.
Sorry but this is mostly total nonsense. Kavanaugh had tons and tons of liberals in the legal system vouch for his credentials and state that he should be seated on the SC specifically because he defers to the constitution and not partisan opinion. Also you seem to have no idea how our system of government works since the SC was never meant to be a "check" on ANY administration; it exists purely to uphold laws or rule on challenges to laws that are passed by Congress. I think you've been listening to MSNBC too long.
As for your first point- who gives a shit about public hearings these days? Going back 4 Justices, they've all come with 100% pre-rehearsed answerers and don't offer anything new or groundbreaking at these hearings. There's absolutely nothing the public could learn that they couldn't learn just the same with submitted Q&A or via 1-1 meetings with Senators. This entire public hearing process has become nothing more than a sham way for Senators to pump up their future camapaigns and grandstand for sound bites, as Booker and Harris pathetically did.
Funny ... when Democrats put people in ... the 51 votes is fine. When Republicans put people in, it should require 60 votes. I get it.
Were Obama's appointees partisan? Hmmm...
- The Supreme Court is an equal branch of our government. Equal in power to the Legislative branch which writes the laws, equal to the Executive branch which executes the laws. The Supreme Court makes judgments on the laws and serves as a check on both the Legislative and the Executive which in turn check each other.
- Reid didn't nuke the threshold to filibuster proof the Supreme Court in 2013, McConnell did last year
- Kavanaugh is strongly involved with The Federalist Society and listed as a contributor to the organization which openly promotes hard right wing causes, judges and attorneys, he is too partisan to be on the SC
- Obama's nominees Sotomayer and Kagan were confirmed with 60+ votes and consent from the minority party out of power so no 51 votes was not fine for the Democrats to confirm SC nominees.
- Also Merrick Garland who was nominated by Obama but the Republican controlled Senate refused to hold a hearing obstructing Obama's nomination, Gorsch who is also a Federalist Society contributor is too partisan and should have never been confirmed either.
- Reid didn't nuke the threshold to filibuster proof the Supreme Court in 2013, McConnell did last year
- Kavanaugh is strongly involved with The Federalist Society and listed as a contributor to the organization which openly promotes hard right wing causes, judges and attorneys, he is too partisan to be on the SC
- Obama's nominees Sotomayer and Kagan were confirmed with 60+ votes and consent from the minority party out of power so no 51 votes was not fine for the Democrats to confirm SC nominees.
- Also Merrick Garland who was nominated by Obama but the Republican controlled Senate refused to hold a hearing obstructing Obama's nomination, Gorsch who is also a Federalist Society contributor is too partisan and should have never been confirmed either.
Wow, someone who actually has a workable knowledge of our government. Don't see this very often in the WC.
Also thanks for pointing out that sk8 was 100% wrong, the last two justices confirmed well above 60, hell Sotomayer nearly had 70 votes.
Wrong. Read the second paragraph.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d2ca728e67c_story.html?utm_term=.0b97f77e2341
You said you objected to Kavanaugh being too partisan to be a candidate. I brought up partisan concerns with Sotomayor and Kagan. Truly Sotomayor is far more partisan and was at the time of nomination; Kagan has been more moderate. You can’t have a problem with Kavanaugh on partisanship but not have an issue with Sotomayor.
As for the vote numbers, from the turn of the century until 1968, there was only one nomination that wasn’t confirmed. The Senate examined qualifications for Supreme based on work and not partisanship and viewpoints on hot-button issues. There are still some on the Republican side who feel that way and so you’ll get more Republicans voting for democrat nominees. Democrats almost to a person toe the party line. Period. You see it in every higher profile vote. For years.
Why is it that Republicans are willing to cross over so often but Democrats aren’t?
The Washington Post said:
I didn't agree with the move at the time either, but Reid and the Democratic majority senate had enough sensibility to not change that rule for Supreme Court confirmation votes. McConnell and the current Republican Senate have no such boundaries. They threw that rule out which ultimately will allow the SC, a branch of the government equally as powerful as the Executive and Legislative branches to become hyperpolarized unless the rules are turned back.
Sotomayor and Kagan were nominated by Obama, of course they will have some liberal leanings but they weren't partisan enough for the senate at the time as evidenced by their 60+ confirmation votes. To add to that I'm not aware of a hard left leaning organization equivalent to The Federalist Society sponsoring Sotomayor or Kagan nor am I aware of either of them being contributing members of equivalent partisan organizations.
Sotomayor rose the swell of the Obama public sentiment. There was no way she wasn’t going to get confirmed.
Fair point but Reid knew he was opening the door. He was many things; stupid was not one of them.
Are you serious, they were both liberal hacks and look at their decisions, right along party lines.
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Maybe that's because Democrats aren't apointing canidates whose sole purpose is to protect the POTUS from impeachment?
lol you're out of your mind. Unreal. Kagan and Sotomayor are liberals in every sense of the word and were fairly left leaning in most of their judicial decisions and writing before being nominated to the SC.
They went through because Republicans, while not liking them being liberal judges, acknowledged that they were at least qualified in the academic sense and deferred to the President's pick. Unlike now, where we have moron Democrats blindly voting NO on a guy who is more qualified than any of the judges you just mentioned, with 13 years of experience on the Circuit Court.
Kavanaugh is only "partisan" because Democrats decided to try to slander and destroy a supremely qualified guy, all because he holds personal conservative views.
Aaaaand straight to name calling. 85 could literally be replaced by a robot.
1) 85 posts stupid shit
2) Someone calls him out on his BS
3) 85 flips out and starts slewing ad hominems
4) Rinse and repeat
On the basis of qualification what was the disqualification for Merrick Garland other than being nominated by Obama?
Fact is Democratic presidents nominate left leaning judges and Republican presidents nominate right leaning judges. If the SC were to act as the founders intended it would be a middle ground that both sides would have cases ruled in their favor and others not.
That judicial precedence was kept sacred until Bush played with the idea of changing the rules, then when Reid changed the rules for the lower courts in 2013 and finally was bastardized by McConnell last year.
There is nothing wrong with holding personal conservative views, but this is an irrefutable fact, Kavanaugh and Gorsch for that matter are both supported by at least one hard right partisan group and are even contributors to said group. To make matters worse, Kavanaugh has stated in the past he is in favor of an expansive Executive branch which means allowing him onto the SC will abdicate more power from the Judicial branch over to the Executive.
Not okay in my book
Funny ... you just make stuff up here .... move some goalposts there ... say a bunch of dumb stuff... and ninja thinks you are a genius.
Awesome.
