Herbie on UCF "They Need to Be Taken More Seriously"

[JAFFX2]

Cut to the chase @ 26:05

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/orange-crushed/id1477531279?i=1000450007842

 

[Central Floridave]

Forget Qb conspiracy (although that is at rest now).

WE GOT A NATIONAL PERCEPTION CONSPIRACY NOW!

 

[80'sKnight]

Poor baby, we insulted him with the National Championship.

 

[UCFBS]

I wish he would have said something about 2013, but at least he mentioned the conference is better and UCF is deserving now, placing us with Boise, and more current-relevant.

And kudos to Herbie on admitting he was 'offended' after 2017, not that he was right or wrong, just 'offended.' He was honest and transparent.

 

[Central Floridave]

"And, yet the voters are still luke warm on them, they should be higher."

 

[Central Floridave]

Great conversation. Mentions Temple gonna be a hard game.

 

[knight_tracker]

Great conversation. Mentions Temple gonna be a hard game.

I agree Temple is going to be a good matchup. Circle that game. It irritates me that they have not ranked Temple yet, as they were quick to put Maryland at number 20...

 

[Central Floridave]

They were also quick to put USC in the rankings after beating Stanford. But, UCF beats them and eh...Stanford isn't that good....

 

[Knightlife_08]

He’s just throwing us a bone to appease us, he doesn’t really believe in it.

 

[JAFFX2]

 

[2015UCFMBA]

I don’t know. I think he was genuinely impressed when he was here last year. He is warming up to us, and I think that’s a good thing. Especially after we got after him so relentlessly last year.

Like it or not, the guy has a national audience. Better for him to be saying what he did in that podcast than ignoring or ridiculing us.

 

[Endeavor.]

 

[NestaKnight1]

I “see” what you did there!

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

He’s just throwing us a bone to appease us, he doesn’t really believe in it.

I couldn't care either way. Whether we like it or not, Herbie's opinion matters. College Game Day is the most watch sports show in America. Him saying we belong in the Top 10 will make others believe as well.

 

[Central Floridave]

Nice post endeavor!

 

[GoKnights2003]

I'd like herpes to tell us again how we came from nowhere? Jackass!!

 

[PowerEye101]

Now that ESPN has a long term contact with the AAC it's in their interest to promote UCF. During negotiations they probably wanted to downplay the conference for bargaining leverage. Unfortunately for them UCF TV numbers were great the last 2 years giving the AAC more leverage for a better contract. Your welcome fellow AAC beneficiaries. Herbie may have new marching orders now.

 

[jt_knight]

I don’t know. I think he was genuinely impressed when he was here last year. He is warming up to us, and I think that’s a good thing. Especially after we got after him so relentlessly last year.

Like it or not, the guy has a national audience. Better for him to be saying what he did in that podcast than ignoring or ridiculing us.

I agree that being here likely opened his eyes to UCF's talent. The sad thing is that it shouldn't take a professional analyst to come to a game in person to have his mind changed when we play 8x per year on his own network. If that's what it takes then the hundreds of other writers who cover the sport will never be convinced, unless they just parrot the ESPN talking points, which is likely what they do.

Conclusion: ESPN wields far too much influence in CFB and actively tips the scales in favor of the teams that advance their pecuniary interests.

 

[GoKnights2003]

I agree that being here likely opened his eyes to UCF's talent. The sad thing is that it shouldn't take a professional analyst to come to a game in person to have his mind changed when we play 8x per year on his own network. If that's what it takes then the hundreds of other writers who cover the sport will never be convinced, unless they just parrot the ESPN talking points, which is likely what they do.

Conclusion: ESPN wields far too much influence in CFB and actively tips the scales in favor of the teams that advance their pecuniary interests.

Well said.

 

[GoKnights2003]

Is Herps trying to tell us I wont beat you up if you give me your lunch money? Pfft. I think he's afraid we are going to steal his! Put him in his place!!! What a piece.

 

[SwagCentral]

It was a slow week in big games. Do it in November Herbie!

 

[firm_bizzle]

Again, these are Kirkstreits "feelings" which have nothing to do with the actual game. I don't care that he felt like it was 60-10, it wasn't. Deal with reality and facts.

 

[Ucfmikes]

I guess Herbie being from a traditional blueblood program. wants some winning longevity and isn’t impressed by one hit (season) wonders

I take it at face value. Maybe he’s a believer now

 

[LemmyKilmister]

Just win baby! We need to go 1-0 at Pitt this week.

 

[JAFFX2]

I couldn't care either way. Whether we like it or not, Herbie's opinion matters. College Game Day is the most watch sports show in America. Him saying we belong in the Top 10 will make others believe as well.

As you said........"Herbie's opinion matters" regardless of why all of a sudden he has had an epiphany. What he say's carries a lot of clout in college football circles, and as a master at continuously building our brand AD DW is very well aware of that.........

 

[UCFloridaTech]

Disney execs telling select ESPN analysts to lighten up with the new UCF deal in place?

 

[firm_bizzle]

As you said........"Herbie's opinion matters" regardless of why all of a sudden he has had an epiphany. What he say's carries a lot of clout in college football circles, and as a master at continuously building our brand AD DW is very well aware of that.........

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His opinion didn't matter when he was against us, it sure doesn't matter when he's for us.

 

[Knight_Light]

I agree that being here likely opened his eyes to UCF's talent. The sad thing is that it shouldn't take a professional analyst to come to a game in person to have his mind changed when we play 8x per year on his own network. If that's what it takes then the hundreds of other writers who cover the sport will never be convinced, unless they just parrot the ESPN talking points, which is likely what they do.

Conclusion: ESPN wields far too much influence in CFB and actively tips the scales in favor of the teams that advance their pecuniary interests.

ESPN has almost always "run" the sport of College Football (TV contracts with every P5 Conf)...and now they OWN (bought) the CFP...and almost everything they do is to build up excitement toward the end. Heck, ESPN also owns most of the (now mostly meaningless) bowl games too.

 

[Knight_Light]

Disney execs telling select ESPN analysts to lighten up with the new UCF deal in place?

11 months ago...after UCF won their upteenth game in a row, Herbie said this:

“You need to play somebody in order to be rewarded. UCF, you need to not just be worried about being undefeated and trying to get in the top four, you need to look behind you at teams like Utah State, Appalachian State, Fresno State. These teams, on paper — which is what you want to look at a lot of times — are better than UCF and more deserving than UCF.”

Certainly can't hurt....or at least 'Hey, stop SH-TTING on a program that just goes out there and WINS! What else do you want them to do?"

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

His opinion didn't matter when he was against us, it sure doesn't matter when he's for us.

His opinion didn't matter? Oh yeah, I forgot how well we were treated in the polls the last couple of years. Not saying this will make all the difference in the polls, but it'll definitely help.

 

[UCFBS]

His opinion didn't matter when he was against us, it sure doesn't matter when he's for us.

Actually, if you listen to his disclosure, we need fans like him, ones that are open, transparent and admit where they came from and why they changed. He even admitted that he was against UCF after 2017 because of the NC declaration, and now he realizes maybe he shouldn't have been. He say what we did, and how he reacted, wasn't right or wrong either, and that people need to stop being against UCF for it, just like he has now done.

 

[ahabmw]

UCF is getting more positive publicity then ever. Media is starting to believe in us. Still a long way to go but even Saturdays Down Suck has an almost positive article about our team. Just go 1-0!

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

Disney execs telling select ESPN analysts to lighten up with the new UCF deal in place?

I’m not in on Production meetings but I’m willing to bet no. They pay him to give his opinion. He isn’t a new guy. A lot of the guys who were against us changed minds once they came here last season. A little of watching us in person but a lot of talking to our coaches and Athletic Department Personnel. It’s harder to badmouth someone you’ve met and liked than someone you’ve never met.

 

[Shark19]

I take it at face value. Maybe he’s a believer now

I think it's real, just took awhile....

 

[SwagCentral]

Most of this is purely because we’ve been doing it for three seasons now. Being good more than one year matters. Even though they say it’s a one year poll/rankings, it’s not. That’s why the blue bloods get the benefit of the doubt in the rankings. We’re being thought of better because we’ve been on their radar longer and it’s now safer for national guys to pimp us.

 

[Ucfmikes]

If Danny White is saying that it matters, then it matters

If you’re not on the side of our savior, then bad things will happen

We are doomed!!!

 

[Ucfmikes]

11 months ago...after UCF won their upteenth game in a row, Herbie said this:

“You need to play somebody in order to be rewarded. UCF, you need to not just be worried about being undefeated and trying to get in the top four, you need to look behind you at teams like Utah State, Appalachian State, Fresno State. These teams, on paper — which is what you want to look at a lot of times — are better than UCF and more deserving than UCF.”

Certainly can't hurt....or at least 'Hey, stop SH-TTING on a program that just goes out there and WINS! What else do you want them to do?"

Maybe he thinks that Stanford is a quality program and we dismantled them

Nothing wrong with that

 

[Knightlife_08]

11 months ago...after UCF won their upteenth game in a row, Herbie said this:

“You need to play somebody in order to be rewarded. UCF, you need to not just be worried about being undefeated and trying to get in the top four, you need to look behind you at teams like Utah State, Appalachian State, Fresno State. These teams, on paper — which is what you want to look at a lot of times — are better than UCF and more deserving than UCF.”

Certainly can't hurt....or at least 'Hey, stop SH-TTING on a program that just goes out there and WINS! What else do you want them to do?"

You forgot his weird emphasis on STATE

 

[muckdawg24]

I agree that being here likely opened his eyes to UCF's talent. The sad thing is that it shouldn't take a professional analyst to come to a game in person to have his mind changed when we play 8x per year on his own network. If that's what it takes then the hundreds of other writers who cover the sport will never be convinced, unless they just parrot the ESPN talking points, which is likely what they do.

Conclusion: ESPN wields far too much influence in CFB and actively tips the scales in favor of the teams that advance their pecuniary interests.

Hold please, I have to look up "pecuniary."

 

[Knight Strength]

If Danny White is saying that it matters, then it matters

If you’re not on the side of our savior, then bad things will happen

We are doomed!!!

As we've been saying the past year+...Give DW another raise! And add Heup and CRS to my raise list too! We need stability and they're great for us.