Herd immunity in sweden already?
- Thread starter Crazyhole
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We don't even know for sure yet if herd immunity is possible with this virus. And according to this article, projections of 600,000 infected in Stockholm by May 1st. I think it is way too early to know if Sweden's strategy has worked.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidn...ckholm-by-may-1-model-estimates/#3bb2795278d6
Their death curve is still increasing. They now have more than 3x the deaths of Norway and Denmark combined despite a smaller population. Too early to tell if their “strategy” “worked”. Or what the economic impact of the virus was there. Bars and shops remaining open doesn’t mean that Swedes actually frequented them during the pandemic.
We won't know anything for sure until this winter, but it would be pretty unlikely that people recover from this without developing antibodies. The question is how long those antibodies remain.
Or how strong the antibodies are. Regardless, at this point we have no clue if Sweden is handling this well or not.
Uh duh. Swedes are generally healthier, more educated, and over 50% of the households there are made up of a single person. They may not need as stringent requirements. Contrast with the US who on a whole is less educated and more unhealthy and you need to spell it out for people. Even so, Sweden has had 3x the deaths of their neighbors per capita. They haven’t achieved “herd immunity” yet. They reported 357 deaths in the past 2 days. Norway and Denmark combined reported 22.
Don’t we eventually have to depend on a herd immunity too? Even if we open back up three months from now, a handful of infected people would spread the virus rapidly. Do we just keep shutting the country down for months at a time or let the virus run it’s course while being careful in the process? We can make sure the elderly and people most at risk are taken care of and hold off large public gatherings for a while. Do we just sit in our houses until there is a vaccine widely available?
Yup...open back up with some newer guidelines. No large events initially. We either get a vaccine or herd immunity. Vaccine isn't happening for a while.
Testing would work too. There's no reason for us to not have testing at this point.
We are testing more than other countries which is why our numbers are higher. We would have to test everyone 3 times a week. That isn't practical. Next?
Deaths have doubled since you posted this thread and they are now worse in deaths per million than the United States even after we had a head start on them. Guess social distancing worked. Shame we surrendered to the virus so quickly.
These are the pertinent questions. Now that the aspirational goalposts have moved from flattening the curve to not one single death, where do we go from here?
