Holman
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We'll be the last to know, I suspect. The big question is which of the other 4 QB's would get moved up to backup (or starter). Note that isn't necessarily the person brought in if we'd need someone else to go in today.
Hoping Milton. Verduzco has likened him to Johnny Football. In the field of course.
As Frost has done since he arrived at UCF...he reiterated during the press conf yesterday that he doesn't talk about specific injuries to players or even potential injuries.
Holman is great coming off of the bench. Nick Patti has better nerves. Start Patti the first 2 series and then bring Holman in
I'm glad Holman is healthy... that he's starting again... meh.
I've got to say, I'm kind of surprised that Tyler Harris didn't even dress for UM. Of the QBs from last year, he seemed to have the quickest release with the best short range accuracy. Maybe he's lagging picking up the offense.
I've got to say, I'm kind of surprised that Tyler Harris didn't even dress for UM. Of the QBs from last year, he seemed to have the quickest release with the best short range accuracy. Maybe he's lagging picking up the offense.
I think just about everyone is on the 'Holman just doesn't have it' group but I don't want him forced to the bench by injury.
I want them to roll the dice with the Hawaiian when Conference play gets here, even with the oline still being a weakness this offense can be good with all the weapons with just average QB play
I agree with this. I'm not really worried about him "losing" his redshirt year. Even if it's just for limited snaps.
He's not fast enough to tear off a long run for a TD, but he's fast enough to pick up 5 yards if the D isn't honest. I'd rather trade Holman and Patti's speed for someone who can make quick accurate throws. Maybe the answer is just milton.
Right now Holman is our best bet. Patti is just too small. His problem is that when the pock collapses he cannot see past the linemen. You could see that against Michigan. He is quicker and and smoother, but unless he has a good pocket or is moved outside the pocket he is limited. This year is a throw away. I would not bring Milton in unless absolutely necessary.
Like with Michigan, it may be better to use senior leadership to avoid turnovers, throw it away, and direct young offense.
FIU would seem to be a better game to look at the underclassmen at QB to prepare them for the conference if needed. Harris was impressive on the near comeback last season and showed some unexpected elusiveness and quick feet on scrambles for such a classic QB prototype.
Yes, we need someone who can run AND pass. Holman, Patti, and Harris don't fit these requirements
What are you worried about? Losing some potential phenomenal year in 2020? The odds are much higher that he'll need a medical redshirt year than we're competing for a playoff spot in 2020.
Play him!!! We will have 10-15 QBs at
least as good by the time he's a senior.
least as good by the time he's a senior.
any spies at practice know how Milton's been looking?
I understand if they stick w Holman but watching him sometimes I think he just brings a bad energy to the roster. Great student/person but he gets his head down with frustration quick in games & that can effect an entire teams's energy/confidence.
Our Orlando Sentinel beat writer loves to make excuses for him but the fact is that he's played 3 halves and was really bad in 2 of them, 1 being against IAA SC State.
I understand if they stick w Holman but watching him sometimes I think he just brings a bad energy to the roster. Great student/person but he gets his head down with frustration quick in games & that can effect an entire teams's energy/confidence.
Our Orlando Sentinel beat writer loves to make excuses for him but the fact is that he's played 3 halves and was really bad in 2 of them, 1 being against IAA SC State.
The only thing you learn from her articles, is which players she has a personal bond with.
I could tell last season that she has one with Holman.
She would go out of her way to make excuses for him
She may be a Holman fan but she doesn't really come down extremely hard anyone that I've seen. The frustrating thing about Holman is he helped us win a conference 'ship and hasn't shown improvement from that season. He has the physical tools.. I guess its just mental. (I do think he's fast enough to run the offense). That was a great run that he unfortunately got hurt on..
Holman has all the physical and mental tools to be great, but he lacks that "it" factor. Perhaps it's just paralysis by analysis. He's a pre-med guy, so it's not like he doesn't understand things. He seems at his best when he can stick his foot in the ground and let the cannon loose and drive the ball down field for chunks of yardage. He always seems to be playing tight. Maybe slip him a xanax before the game or something.
I remember during the 2013 season, when he came in a couple times, thinking he had a better arm and was faster than Bortles. He was also going to have 3 years as the likely starter. He actually seems to regress a little every year. Or maybe that's just relative perspective. Maybe it's that he's not progressing at the rate you'd expect.
What I'm afraid of... 4 years of Jags QB Blaine Gabbert. An Oline that's not the great, a shell shocked Blaine Gabbert.
If they put it up to a fan vote, I'm ready to see someone else at QB other than holman/patti. Zero confidence in them.
The defense remarked how much of a difference seeing Killins run for a TD made for them. Just going in on defense every series seeing an ineffective offense is what really kills a team's energy.
Holman isn't our answer for the QB position this season. What is? To be honest with you I'd almost rather have Kruz than Milton in there because Milton is a tooth pick right now. I believe Kruz can complete more passes than Holman and get the passing game going. Patti reminds me too much of Godfrey who either ran too early or had to run outside the tackles to see down the field. I feel bad for the WRs because they are going to be under used except for run blocking this season until we get somebody in there that can do more than hand off the ball. Holman = inconsistency! He makes some plays and gets your hopes up but flops for half the game. That's why keeping him in cements us at 5-7 or 6-6 with the way the defense is playing. Frost said "We will get better in his interview after the Michigan game". Hopefully, that means he will put in a more consistent passer at some point.
Like was said on this thread, I don't want Holman hurt because I want this to play out sooner than later. I believe there is the potential on this team to be better than 6-6. Hopefully, our offensive line will get settled in as the QB position is finalized.
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Nothing to do with 2020. He is inexperienced so injuries, confidence, confidence of the rest of the team. Bring him along slowly and let him grow into his frame a little. Let him get stronger and learn leadership. Let him earn the respect of his fellow players. QB is a mental position as much as a physical position. Let him learn the offense and the speed of the college game. Not just throw him in the game to sink or swim just because the alternative QB is mediocre. Trust the coaches to know if he is ready to take the helm.
Nothing to do with 2020. He is inexperienced so injuries, confidence, confidence of the rest of the team. Bring him along slowly and let him grow into his frame a little. Let him get stronger and learn leadership. Let him earn the respect of his fellow players. QB is a mental position as much as a physical position. Let him learn the offense and the speed of the college game. Not just throw him in the game to sink or swim just because the alternative QB is mediocre. Trust the coaches to know if he is ready to take the helm.
Also, I recall that Jeff Godfrey arrive early enough to go through spring practice. And the offense wasn't learning a different system with new starters on the line.
I hope Coach Verdu is a miracle worker and something clicks with Holman but I just don't see it which is a shame bc he has the arm talent to be a good QB
People on this board seem to think that all college coaches are stupid or blind or both. Do you not think they see what each player is capable of? Do they no watch the game films and analyze everything from practice? The QB second guessing is a past time on this board. You chewed on GOL relentlessly no matter who he chose. Now the anti-Holman crowd comes out wanting to throw a true freshman to the wolves just because of a few interviews and internet rumors. If he is ready I am sure they will put him in. If not then they will hold him out.
I dont think Justin has the ability to make the reads fast enough. He has the talent and athletic ability, but he has always struggled with making spot decisions. That said, of our available choices, I think he is currently the best choice. Maybe Harris and Kruz will get a shot and we can see if there is anyone else.
