HRC says Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent working to sabotage the DNC

[UCFKnight85]

These lunatics see Russians everywhere, even within their own party apparently. It's "all in" on slandering Gabbard apparently since the NYT also ran a story suggesting she's beholden to a foreign power (wink wink)

Oh and she's "convinced" that Jill Stein is a Russian agent who ran a 3rd party campaign on behalf of the Kremlin.

In a conversation on former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe’s podcast, Clinton suggested the Russians are leveraging a number of top U.S. politicians. She suggested Russia had kompromat on Trump. She accused 2016 Green Party nominee Jill Stein of being a “Russian asset.” And she suggested Russia might back Gabbard as a third-party candidate.

“They’re also going to do third-party again,” Clinton said. “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on someone who’s currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.”

The “again” referred to Stein, whom some Clinton supporters have accused (rather baselessly) of serving as a spoiler for Clinton in 2016. Stein got around 1 percent of the vote in the three decisive states — Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — but exit polls showed most of her voters wouldn’t have supported either Clinton or Trump if Stein weren’t running.

Clinton then flat-out labeled Stein a “Russian asset.”

“And that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she’s also a Russian asset,” Clinton said. “Yeah, she’s a Russian asset — I mean, totally. They know they can’t win without a third-party candidate. So I don’t know who it’s going to be, but I will guarantee you they will have a vigorous third-party challenge in the key states that they most needed.”

 

[UCFWayne]

i really hope that hillary decides to run again. it would be fun.

 

[DaShuckster]

Weird. The OP left no link. Apparently it's from one of those nutjob conservative sites since he was too embarrassed to link it.

My guess? Probably the Blaze, Red State, or InfoWars.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Weird. The OP left no link. Apparently it's from one of those nutjob conservative sites since he was too embarrassed to link it.

My guess? Probably the Blaze, Red State, or InfoWars.

It's from the WaPo and most ever major news organization right now, you ignorant crank.

 

[DaShuckster]

It's from the WaPo and most ever major news organization right now, you ignorant crank.

BINGO!!!!

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/08/01/tulsi-gabbard-now-russian-agent/

 

[UCFWayne]

BINGO!!!!

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/08/01/tulsi-gabbard-now-russian-agent/

Appearing on Obama campaign manager David Plouffe’s podcast, Clinton made a number of claims regarding Russian meddling in U.S. elections, including that Gabbard’s substantial social-media support relies on Russian bots. Gabbard was the most-searched candidate after the first and second Democratic debates.

 

[firm_bizzle]

She is. That's why you like her so much.

 

[UCFWayne]

She is. That's why you like her so much.

shes pretty good looking for an older woman.

 

[DaShuckster]

shes pretty good looking for an older woman.

What would you expect for a Russian agent?

 

[UCFWayne]

What would you expect for a Russian agent?

does being able to see russia from your house count as well?

 

[Poolside Knight]

Her foreign policy is...odd

it's clear her whole purpose is to be a disrupter and to get a go viral moment on who is assumed to be the front runner. She did it with Kamala and she tried to do it with Warren but failed

 

[UCFKnight85]

There's just such dripping irony here given that it as HRC's campaign who procured a Kremlin written disinformation dossier to use as a political weapon in 2016 and eventually was fed into the FBI.

Yet here she is spewing Russian conspiracy again.

 

[UCFKnight85]

 

[Sir Galahad]

Hillary needs to be Baker acted at this point. Someone close to her needs to make sure she takes her meds. She clearly has lost it and that is no joke.

 

[firm_bizzle]

shes pretty good looking for an older woman.

I'd hit.

 

[Happy Hands]

shes pretty good looking for an older woman.

That's why she was most searched. She is an attractive woman. Bill would give her an internship and that's why HRC is hating.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I do t think she’s a Russian agent and HRC is a lunatic, but Gabbard is still a pretty shitty person for personally going to bat for Assad and trying to provide him cover for slaughtering his own people.

it seems odd to crow about “war mongers” when you’re all in on backing the worlds biggest mass murderer

 

[Sir Galahad]

I do t think she’s a Russian agent and HRC is a lunatic, but Gabbard is still a pretty shitty person for personally going to bat for Assad and trying to provide him cover for slaughtering his own people.

it seems odd to crow about “war mongers” when you’re all in on backing the worlds biggest mass murderer

Hillary is just pure evil.

 

[Poolside Knight]

David Duke likes her, that explains why the Bama Bangs Tucker Carlson fanboys being drawn to her

 

[firm_bizzle]

David Duke likes her, that explains why the Bama Bangs Tucker Carlson fanboys being drawn to her

And he's from San Francisco, don't get the Bama bangs.

 

[Boosted87]

Hillary is bitter and stupid. This is a perfect example of why she was a terrible candidate.

I've followed this crap pretty closely the last several years. Recognize that Putin's original going into the 2016 election wasn't to elect Trump - it was to damage Hillary. Bernie benefited during the primary from Russian Active measures that were effort to hurt Clinton's general election campaign. Jill Stein benefited in the general election as a method of siphoning votes from Hillary. This isn't conspiracy stuff it's literally what Muller's indictment of the Russian Troll Farm says.Of course you may remember that Jill Stein shared a table with Mike Flynn and Putin at the 10th Anniversary Dinner for Russia's propaganda network.

There's been reporting on Russian active measures in support of Gabbard dating back a while now. Tulsi got a ton of press when she quit the DNC to publicly endorse Bernie back in the primary. As noted in this thread, Gabbard has views that do not align with typical Republican or Democrat foreign policy, but are good for Russia.

So Hillary isn't making this up. Russia is clearly in support of Gabbard. But even if she's 100% right, the dumbest thing she could possibly do is say so out loud. It gives Gabbard a much bigger platform and news coverage for her do say and do the precise things Putin would love her to say and do.

So make fun of Hillary for being out of touch and clueless, but at the same time, make sure you're aware of the basis of her statements here. Things that five years ago we laugh off as wild conspiracy theories are documented in indictments and Senate reports. This stuff isn't going away and you need to understand when and where your opinions are being molded by foreign state propaganda efforts.

 

[DaShuckster]

The very notion that Russia's Putin could 'own' a US politician in order to get exactly what he wants from the United States is preposterous, right guys?

 

[UCFWayne]

The very notion that Russia's Putin could 'own' a US politician in order to get exactly what he wants from the United States is preposterous, right guys?

are you suggesting that russia has significant leverage within the dnc?

 

[DaShuckster]

are you suggesting that russia has significant leverage within the dnc?

It's possible. Hell, if it can happen in the GOP and nobody there gives a sh*t, it could happen in the RNC too.

Nothing we've done since 2016 is certainly prohibiting Putin and his Russian hackers and social media trolls from doing it again in 2020.

 

[Crazyhole]

It's possible. Hell, if it can happen in the GOP and nobody there gives a sh*t, it could happen in the RNC too.

Nothing we've done since 2016 is certainly prohibiting Putin and his Russian hackers and social media trolls from doing it again in 2020.

What can we do? Facebook and Google are taking measures to identify troll accounts but do you really want the govt trying to identify trolls and bots so they can silence them?

 

[UCFWayne]

2020 is already shaping up to be alot of fun. we now know putin has a russian asset inside the dnc. this has been confirmed. they are getting their excuses ready early.

 

[Boosted87]

What can we do? Facebook and Google are taking measures to identify troll accounts but do you really want the govt trying to identify trolls and bots so they can silence them?

What can we do? To protect the integrity of our election system? To protect American citizens from information warfare campaigns waged by hostile foreign governments? You think the answer is Google and Facebook enforcing a few policies? If that's the case, you don't understand the fundamental challenge we are facing right now. I don't say that in a mean spirited way. I'm genuinely asking you to dive much deeper into this than you have.

Scan through the Wikipedia page for this book - Foundations of Geopolitics. People smarter than me recognize this book as a primary driving influence for the current path of Putin's Russia. For the United States, it's goals are summarized as:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"​

Think of that as your context as you examine the actions Russia has been supporting. So when you ask "What can we do?" - We need to start by running a counter-campaign to educate the public. To see what else we can read through the Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report. Skip to page 78 to start with the recommendations.

We are experiencing the early years of something historians might well look back on as the Age of Disinformation. We need a national, bi-partisan effort to combat this. The first step is helping people realize what a big deal it actually is.

 

[UCFWayne]

What can we do? To protect the integrity of our election system? To protect American citizens from information warfare campaigns waged by hostile foreign governments? You think the answer is Google and Facebook enforcing a few policies? If that's the case, you don't understand the fundamental challenge we are facing right now. I don't say that in a mean spirited way. I'm genuinely asking you to dive much deeper into this than you have.

Scan through the Wikipedia page for this book - Foundations of Geopolitics. People smarter than me recognize this book as a primary driving influence for the current path of Putin's Russia. For the United States, it's goals are summarized as:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"​

Think of that as your context as you examine the actions Russia has been supporting. So when you ask "What can we do?" - We need to start by running a counter-campaign to educate the public. To see what else we can read through the Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report. Skip to page 78 to start with the recommendations.

We are experiencing the early years of something historians might well look back on as the Age of Disinformation. We need a national, bi-partisan effort to combat this. The first step is helping people realize what a big deal it actually is.

that all sounds great. heres a good place for you to start, end the witch hunt against trump. i mean you said you wanted to stop the divide right?

 

[DaShuckster]

We are experiencing the early years of something historians might well look back on as the Age of Disinformation. We need a national, bi-partisan effort to combat this. The first step is helping people realize what a big deal it actually is.

As we've seen OVER and OVER here on this board, it works.

That's the only way you can explain how many voters would ignore all of the mind-bogglingly stupid things Trump and his team have been doing and continue to steadfastly support him.

 

[Cubs79]

that all sounds great. heres a good place for you to start, end the witch hunt against trump. i mean you said you wanted to stop the divide right?

The two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

 

[Sir Galahad]

When Vann Jones trashes Democrat as he just did to Hillary, you know your out of touch.

 

[Cubs79]

What can we do? To protect the integrity of our election system? To protect American citizens from information warfare campaigns waged by hostile foreign governments? You think the answer is Google and Facebook enforcing a few policies? If that's the case, you don't understand the fundamental challenge we are facing right now. I don't say that in a mean spirited way. I'm genuinely asking you to dive much deeper into this than you have.

Scan through the Wikipedia page for this book - Foundations of Geopolitics. People smarter than me recognize this book as a primary driving influence for the current path of Putin's Russia. For the United States, it's goals are summarized as:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"​

Think of that as your context as you examine the actions Russia has been supporting. So when you ask "What can we do?" - We need to start by running a counter-campaign to educate the public. To see what else we can read through the Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report. Skip to page 78 to start with the recommendations.

We are experiencing the early years of something historians might well look back on as the Age of Disinformation. We need a national, bi-partisan effort to combat this. The first step is helping people realize what a big deal it actually is.

They also did this with Brexit, and we see the chaos that is causing.

 

[UCFWayne]

The two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

lol ok...

 

[Cubs79]

lol ok...

I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

 

[DaShuckster]

They also did this with Brexit, and we see the chaos that is causing.

lol ok...

um, Wayne? You might want to try one of those things called a Google search.

 

[Boosted87]

that all sounds great. heres a good place for you to start, end the witch hunt against trump. i mean you said you wanted to stop the divide right?

I'd love to push back against division created by disinformation - sure. Even if I grant you that it's all a Witch Hunt and a direct result of Putin lead disinformation, so are a crap-ton of other things. So instead of selecting one particular vein of the rot that would benefit my political bias, I'd prefer we jointly go after the root cause. Treat the disease, not the symptom right?

 

[Boosted87]

They also did this with Brexit, and we see the chaos that is causing.

Yup! Putin's goal is to fracture the EU by propping up nationalism across Europe.

 

[Crazyhole]

What can we do? To protect the integrity of our election system? To protect American citizens from information warfare campaigns waged by hostile foreign governments? You think the answer is Google and Facebook enforcing a few policies? If that's the case, you don't understand the fundamental challenge we are facing right now. I don't say that in a mean spirited way. I'm genuinely asking you to dive much deeper into this than you have.

Scan through the Wikipedia page for this book - Foundations of Geopolitics. People smarter than me recognize this book as a primary driving influence for the current path of Putin's Russia. For the United States, it's goals are summarized as:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"​

Think of that as your context as you examine the actions Russia has been supporting. So when you ask "What can we do?" - We need to start by running a counter-campaign to educate the public. To see what else we can read through the Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report. Skip to page 78 to start with the recommendations.

We are experiencing the early years of something historians might well look back on as the Age of Disinformation. We need a national, bi-partisan effort to combat this. The first step is helping people realize what a big deal it actually is.

Pretty sure that any person who pays even the slightest bit of attention to politics knows that Russia is running a disinformation campaign. The question remains: what can the govt do to solve it? Do you want the govt monitoring social media to determine what is true and what is false and have the power to stop what they decide is false? That sounds like a pretty scary road to go down. I'm not even sure that I like the idea of private companies doing it, but at least they have a right to do so.

 

[Cubs79]

Pretty sure that any person who pays even the slightest bit of attention to politics knows that Russia is running a disinformation campaign. The question remains: what can the govt do to solve it? Do you want the govt monitoring social media to determine what is true and what is false and have the power to stop what they decide is false? That sounds like a pretty scary road to go down. I'm not even sure that I like the idea of private companies doing it, but at least they have a right to do so.

I see people on FB all the time post memes that aren't based in reality what so ever, and then they get replies agreeing with the meme and a conversation about the false meme ensues, etc. I think you would be surprised how many people still fall for things on FB and other places, simply because they want those things to be true.

 

[Crazyhole]

I see people on FB all the time post memes that aren't based in reality what so ever, and then they get replies agreeing with the meme and a conversation about the false meme ensues, etc. I think you would be surprised how many people still fall for things on FB and other places, simply because they want those things to be true.

So can the govt prevent confirmation bias?