I feel much better about Hurricane Irma

[EweSeaEff]

Forget the latest models which show a shift to the east, because the world's foremost meteorological (and opioid) expert has weighed in. I'm so thankful that Hurricane Irma is just a giant fcking conspiracy:

...So there is a desire to advance this climate change agenda, and hurricanes are one of the fastest and best ways to do it. You can accomplish a lot just by creating fear and panic. You don’t need a hurricane to hit anywhere. All you need is to create the fear and panic accompanied by talk that climate change is causing hurricanes to become more frequent and bigger and more dangerous, and you create the panic, and it’s mission accomplished, agenda advanced.

 

[Sir Galahad]

He is 100% correct about the creation of fear and panic.

 

[EweSeaEff]

He is 100% correct about the creation of fear and panic.

Then he's incoherent at best (which isn't really a stretch given his history, but I digress). He starts out with it being about the media, meteorologists, etc. pushing a climate change agenda and he finishes by complaining that there's no bottled water in Palm Beach County. He also laments about the politicization of everything; but, c'mon, this charlatan is one of the biggest hypocrites in the land.

 

[Sir Galahad]

But he is correct about the media and the hysteria they create about these storms.

 

[UCF11and1]

But he is correct about the media and the hysteria they create about these storms.

I don't think it is the media. I think it is the 50" of water in Houston. Last year people didn't panic with Matthew.

 

[UCFKnight85]

He's mostly wrong here, but right about something- the media and lefties now exploit EVERY storm that goes beyond a rainstorm. Hurricane? GLOBAL WARMING. Blizzard? GLOBAL WARMING. Strong storm front? GLOBAL WARMING. Tropical Storm? GLOBAL WARMING.

It happens every single time now. We are to believe that these storms didn't exist before manmade global warming was identified by scientists.

I heard a media blowhard stating this regarding the Houston flood record, hilariously, after stating that it barely eclipsed the last record set in.........1951. Went totally over his head.

 

[vroomba]

I don't think it is the media. I think it is the 50" of water in Houston. Last year people didn't panic with Matthew.

This is it. Harvey has everyone worried, and on top of that the Cat 5 rating. Its hard to say how bad it'll be though because like meteorologists are pointing out, is that at the 4-5 day outlook, generally the difference between predicted and actual path is 150-200ish statute miles. Seeing the cone definitely scares people, but at the same time it does bring awareness to getting prepared.

 

[CommuterBob]

Last year people didn't panic with Matthew.

LOLWUT

http://www.complex.com/life/2016/10/nsfw-video-shows-brawl-florida-walmart-hurricane-matthew

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hurricane-matthew-sparks-apocalyptic-scenes-8989661

 

[NinjaKnight]

He is 100% correct about the creation of fear and panic.

Yup, it's the media that created the 185 MPH sustained winds. It's the media that dumped a meter of water on Houston last week.

Why do you still bother posting, are you trying to see how many wrong statements you can string together in a row?

 

[UCFWayne]

if you dont have some level of fear about a cat 5 storm, you are an idiot.

 

[NinjaKnight]

if you dont have some level of fear about a cat 5 storm, you are an idiot.

The most powerful Atlantic Hurricane ever is just a left wing media conspiracy.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Could this be another gay bomb being wielded by the government in the form of a hurricane? Honestly this seems more feasible than a "natural disaster"

 

[UCF11and1]

LOLWUT

http://www.complex.com/life/2016/10/nsfw-video-shows-brawl-florida-walmart-hurricane-matthew

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hurricane-matthew-sparks-apocalyptic-scenes-8989661

Check the dates. The fight was on Thursday Oct 6 and they were already under hurricane warning (I think it went east of Miami that night). I flew out to Chile through Miami on Tuesday night and nobody was preparing for Matthew yet.

Irma is 5 days away and Orlando is out of water and canned food

 

[UCFan416]

Could this be another gay bomb being wielded by the government in the form of a hurricane? Honestly this seems more feasible than a "natural disaster"

 

[Poolside Knight]

Climate Change shouldn't be a partisan issue.

 

[UCFBS]

So, we're now into the Cool Cycle of North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), so I'd say all bets are off in any prediction. I mean, look at this storm track right now ...

The cooler air of the mid-Atlantic is really pushing it back down. So I'm not so sure it's going to curl north as fast as we hope.

As a point of reference, although it was half-decade later in the last Cool Cycle, 1979's Hurricane David was a Category 5, and similar in size too, that hit the Lesser Antilles, especially Dominica (a beautiful, all-natural, under-developed island, if you've never been, BTW), then turned abruptly north and then slammed hard into a very unprepared Dominican Republic.

By the time it ran very close across the east coast of Florida, it had just dropped down to a Category 2 (on the edge of a 3). Of course, it still drenched the US pretty badly, and still hit Georgia directly in the end, as still a Category 2.

So what can we take away from all this?

- NAO is pushing down hard on Irma, keeping it heading WNW, instead of more NNW at this point

- We don't know when, and how much, Irma is going to turn north, more than just a little

- Irma's sustained winds are still some 55kph/35mph worse than David, so it may still hit or at least run across the east coast of Florida at a Category 3-4

- It could go under Florida, then slam back into the Sun Coast, the winds are pushing heavily that way, just like Charlie (although Charlie was much smaller)

That really says ... we're gonna get hit. But no one knows how hard and exactly where.

 

[UCFBS]

Climate Change shouldn't be a partisan issue.

Climate change isn't causing this. In fact, blaming hurricanes on climate change is being partisan (and ignorant).

E.g., it's actually the cooler air of NAO that is causing Irma to strengthen.

I've only seen two (2), peer reviewed models that actually do showcase how climate change affected Harvey, and both were in relation to rainfall post-landfall. This rush of hot, moist air is an issue that points to global warming.

But on hurricanes in general, ignore the morons on the TV who failed science, and relay everything 3rd hand. NAO affects air currents along the Atlantic -- both eastern US and western Europe -- orders of magnitude more than climate change.

I.e., scientists have long agreed -- but the US media ignores the fact -- they cannot make verifiable statements about climate change in the Atlantic based only 25 years of data, when NAO is a cycle that runs more than 4 decades.

This is why the original UN report on climate change was heavily debunked, because it relied on 1975-2000 data from the Atlantic. Now the subsequent studies have been much better. Especially the long-term core samples as well as the 100+ year temperature analysis.


P.S. I do believe global warming is happening, and man-made. But there is far more hot air that is man-made about the actual impacts, especially in the south Atlantic. But Americans don't know their history, and remotely don't understand NAO.

 

[goodknightfl]

He is 100% correct about the creation of fear and panic.

Yep they would keep it hitting as long as possible, to make sure people are ready, and shift forcast
And for this being the strongest ever recorded, we have only had decent records on hurricanes for a very short time. Even in the late 60's when I was a teen, hurricane forecast were mostly guess work. No Satellite's, No Doppler, Few flights in and out of storm.. Go back to the 30's and they were basically blind and clueless.

 

[UCFBS]

Yep they would keep it hitting as long as possible, to make sure people are ready, and shift forcast
And for this being the strongest ever recorded, we have only had decent records on hurricanes for a very short time. Even in the late 60's when I was a teen, hurricane forecast were mostly guess work. No Satellite's, No Doppler, Few flights in and out of storm.. Go back to the 30's and they were basically blind and clueless.

Yep, before the '80s, there was no way to name storms the second they formed, hence why the 'counts' were useless before then. The Satellite tracking was only useful by the mid '70s, which was the last time we were in the Cool Cycle of NAO.

We're learning a lot in just the past 10 years. Hopefully the models will be much, much better in another decade too.

 

[cnsaguy]

So, we're now into the Cool Cycle of North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), so I'd say all bets are off in any prediction. I mean, look at this storm track right now ...

The cooler air of the mid-Atlantic is really pushing it back down. So I'm not so sure it's going to curl north as fast as we hope.

As a point of reference, although it was half-decade later in the last Cool Cycle, 1979's Hurricane David was a Category 5, and similar in size too, that hit the Lesser Antilles, especially Dominica (a beautiful, all-natural, under-developed island, if you've never been, BTW), then turned abruptly north and then slammed hard into a very unprepared Dominican Republic.

By the time it ran very close across the east coast of Florida, it had just dropped down to a Category 2 (on the edge of a 3). Of course, it still drenched the US pretty badly, and still hit Georgia directly in the end, as still a Category 2.

So what can we take away from all this?

- NAO is pushing down hard on Irma, keeping it heading WNW, instead of more NNW at this point

- We don't know when, and how much, Irma is going to turn north, more than just a little

- Irma's sustained winds are still some 55kph/35mph worse than David, so it may still hit or at least run across the east coast of Florida at a Category 3-4

- It could go under Florida, then slam back into the Sun Coast, the winds are pushing heavily that way, just like Charlie (although Charlie was much smaller)

That really says ... we're gonna get hit. But no one knows how hard and exactly where.

I personally know Tom Terry. You sir, are no Tom Terry.

 

[UCFKnight85]

All I can say is thank God we have resident hurricane experts in the Dungeon.

 

[UCFBS]

I personally know Tom Terry. You sir, are no Tom Terry.

What 'prediction' was I making and how was I 'wrong'?

The only thing I said is that all bets are off on trying to predict this thing.

I only used '79 David as a point-of-reference of any Cat-5 of a similar, meterological period in NAO. I did not say it would be like David, especially given how the track was already way different.

So I'm scratching my head here on what your point is?

 

[NinjaKnight]

Rush just evacuated. Lmao what a dumb****, as is anyone who actually takes his advice.

https://thinkprogress.org/limbaugh-...-after-claiming-irma-was-a-hoax-cb3fb5fb35b8/

 

[NinjaKnight]

Wow the best part is he is too much of a gigantic fuking pussy to even admit he was wrong.

This is what he said:

“May as well… announce this. I’m not going to get into details because of the security nature of things, but it turns out that we will not be able to do the program here tomorrow,” Limbaugh said Thursday. “We’ll be on the air next week, folks, from parts unknown.”

No wonder Gal was defending him.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Wow the best part is he is too much of a gigantic fuking pussy to even admit he was wrong.

This is what he said:

“May as well… announce this. I’m not going to get into details because of the security nature of things, but it turns out that we will not be able to do the program here tomorrow,” Limbaugh said Thursday. “We’ll be on the air next week, folks, from parts unknown.”

No wonder Gal was defending him.

I still don't know who listens to Rush. I don't know anyone and I know a lot of conservatives

 

[NinjaKnight]

I still don't know who listens to Rush. I don't know anyone and I know a lot of conservatives

Between 14 and 25 million people do every week....

My old boss at work did every damn day. Should have qualified as a hostile work place. Of course he was also a religious nut job with an Infowars bumper sticker on his car and dodged the last 3 deployments he was scheduled for, so pretty much an all around piece of shit.

 

[UCFBS]

Rush is a hypocrite, and a lot of conservatives have dropped him for it. The ones that remain really can't see it.

That said ... I don't disagree with what Rush said, and the Progressive media is demonizing what he said. He was saying they were over-hyping it, talking about everything but what they should ... like evacuating. I have to agree with him on that. I'm also tired of the global warming BS.

If you talk about hurricanes and say 'global warming,' you should have to point to a scientific article.

E.g., there's little evidence to suggest Harvey had anything to do with 'global warming,' just NAO. However, there are two (2) studies that do showcase how the excessive rain post-landfall of Harvey did have a lot to do with 'global warming.'

 

[Sir Galahad]

Rush just evacuated. Lmao what a dumb****, as is anyone who actually takes his advice.

https://thinkprogress.org/limbaugh-...-after-claiming-irma-was-a-hoax-cb3fb5fb35b8/

Sad thing is he never said it was a hoax. Do your own research.

 

[UCFBS]

Sad thing is he never said it was a hoax. Do your own research.

Indeed.

I'm a massive Rush critic. But nothing self-undermines Progressives more than when they say something about Rush, Trump, et al. that is absolutely untrue. Rush was complaining about the hype, and I have to partially agree.

While it's good people took the storm seriously, 99% of the coverage of Irma was irrelevant and a total distraction.

 

[goodknightfl]

Rush was right about the hype, They yelled, screamed, threw tantrums, pulled their hair, and all but claimed the world was about to end, Now that it is here, they are busy calming everyone down and saying we will all be here come Tuesday..

It was beyond ridiculous.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Just another example of people with an agenda spreading lies.

 

[NinjaKnight]

I think we found the Rush watchers, and no one is surprised. Of course an IQ test would have revealed the same results.

 

[Sir Galahad]

I think we found the Rush watchers, and no one is surprised. Of course an IQ test would have revealed the same results.

Yet again you got caught in another lie.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Yet again you got caught in another lie.

Only someone as incredibly ignorant as yourself would care more about "lies" told on a message board than lies told by the POTUS.

But since I do enjoy embarrassing you, how about you share with the class what lie was told?

 

[UCF11and1]

Rush was right about the hype, They yelled, screamed, threw tantrums, pulled their hair, and all but claimed the world was about to end, Now that it is here, they are busy calming everyone down and saying we will all be here come Tuesday..

It was beyond ridiculous.

They were right. The delay over Cuba saved south florida

 

[NinjaKnight]

Rush was right about the hype, They yelled, screamed, threw tantrums, pulled their hair, and all but claimed the world was about to end, Now that it is here, they are busy calming everyone down and saying we will all be here come Tuesday..

It was beyond ridiculous.

And Rush is always calm, cool, collected and never spreads lies and mass hysteria on his media program.

Rush is one gigantic cock of a flaming hypocrite, without any semblance of balls. He couldn't even admit he was wrong when he evacuated. Basically a giant piece of shit.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Only someone as incredibly ignorant as yourself would care more about "lies" told on a message board than lies told by the POTUS.

But since I do enjoy embarrassing you, how about you share with the class what lie was told?

Sorry I didn't respond, I was on the pay side of this page talking with the adults.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Sorry I didn't respond, I was on the pay side of this page talking with the adults.

Why would I want to pay money to listen to you spew bullshit and then ignore all the call outs? You literally post nothing but wrong information and then ignore facts when questioned. Speaking of which, you've still not answered my question about what I lied about.

Of course you haven't answered my other question: you claimed I act as an expert on Obamacare, despite me never having made a single post about it. How exactly am I an expert on it?

 

[UCFBS]

I think we found the Rush watchers, and no one is surprised. Of course an IQ test would have revealed the same results.

I don't listen to Rush (even refused to watch my favorite NFL pre-game show the weeks he was on), but it didn't take long for me to find the quotes via Google search.

I'm a classic Liberal -- you know, the those of us who supported Marriage Equality and Legalizing Drugs in the 20th century, before it was popular? -- and a huge Rush critic (he's more hypocritical than most of the worst Progressives I can find). But the Progressives keep undermining themselves by not quoting, just taking 2-3 words, and fitting assumptions to the rest for an agenda. It's what got Trump elected after all.

I.e., we never talked about what Trump actual said either. We only talked about what the US media said that Trump meant.

Progressives have never figured out that when they do that, they alienate not just Conservatives, but Moderates, let alone continue to kick out, from their media, anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda.

 

[UCFBS]

Only someone as incredibly ignorant as yourself would care more about "lies" told on a message board than lies told by the POTUS.

No, you're both wrong. The supermajority of Americans are sick of all lies to fit hyperbole and rhetoric.

That's why the US media rates just as low in 'trust' as the President.

If you want to be part of the solution, stop being a rhetoric pusher. Americans who care about the future of the country aren't rhetoric spewing a-holes.