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If the Republicans controlled both houses Do you think this ends differently?

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What if it were a Dem. President doing the same as Trump?
 
If the Democrats felt that the election was stolen, the media would be running stories about voter fraud nonstop.
That wasn't the question. Your tired media bias serves as a distraction. The point is do you think if the GOP controlled both houses would Biden be confirmed? If Obama was doing what Trump was doing would there be objections?
 
That wasn't the question. Your tired media bias serves as a distraction. The point is do you think if the GOP controlled both houses would Biden be confirmed? If Obama was doing what Trump was doing would there be objections?
Your question is kind of convoluted. Are you asking if Republicans held both the senate and the house right now, and Trump is doing the same thing, would it be different? Or are you talking about Republicans holding both chambers and its a dem president?
 
Questions like this serve little value here bc its unlikely to be answered without whataboutism. You know this. Your only shot is to start by at least attempting to give some ground first.
 
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That wasn't the question. Your tired media bias serves as a distraction. The point is do you think if the GOP controlled both houses would Biden be confirmed? If Obama was doing what Trump was doing would there be objections?
Your question was super open-ended so you didn’t get the answer that you wanted. If you wanted that answer, then you should’ve asked the question that way the first time.

If Republicans held both houses, there might have been an investigation into the allegations where people actually examined the evidence. But I’d be surprised. Republicans don’t fight, other than Trump, and they do exactly what they’re doing now, which is fall all over themselves to justify not doing anything.
 
Your question is kind of convoluted. Are you asking if Republicans held both the senate and the house right now, and Trump is doing the same thing, would it be different? Or are you talking about Republicans holding both chambers and its a dem president?
Yeah, I was asking both try
Your question is kind of convoluted. Are you asking if Republicans held both the senate and the house right now, and Trump is doing the same thing, would it be different? Or are you talking about Republicans holding both chambers and its a dem president?
Yeah was an open question but I thought an interesting one. If the GOP had both houses and Trump was pulling this shit would we have the same result?
 
Yeah, I was asking both try

Yeah was an open question but I thought an interesting one. If the GOP had both houses and Trump was pulling this shit would we have the same result?
If the GOP held both chambers we wouldn’t see any objections. They are free to object and try to curry favor with braindead trumpets for 4 years from now because they know democrats control the house and the objections won’t end up changing anything.
 
That wasn't the question. Your tired media bias serves as a distraction. The point is do you think if the GOP controlled both houses would Biden be confirmed? If Obama was doing what Trump was doing would there be objections?
Weren’t there objections in 2016 and 2004 by Democrats? Maybe you hate the idea of media bias, but they are acting like this is something that has never been done before when it was done the last two elections the dems lost. It just the game. Chit is dirtier than an airplane bathroom. The interesting part is that a lot of the media has become the propaganda arm for one party. The other party has smaller propaganda arms, like a T-Rex or a picture my daughter draws of me.
 
The interesting part is that a lot of the media has become the propaganda arm for one party. The other party has smaller propaganda arms, like a T-Rex or a picture my daughter draws of me.
Give me a break. You'd have us believe the country is pretty much evenly divided between the two parties but the news and information we digest is all one-sided??? Really???

The only difference between the two is the number of political "news" sites. Fox News' primary competition for conservative eyeballs comes from the various right-wing nutjob sites whose articles are linked as fodder for OP discussions here.

It's why Trump can spew his massive voter fraud BS and get away with it because the internet is full of echo chambers and a gullible audience.
 
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Weren’t there objections in 2016 and 2004 by Democrats? Maybe you hate the idea of media bias, but they are acting like this is something that has never been done before when it was done the last two elections the dems lost. It just the game. Chit is dirtier than an airplane bathroom. The interesting part is that a lot of the media has become the propaganda arm for one party. The other party has smaller propaganda arms, like a T-Rex or a picture my daughter draws of me.
There were no senate objections in 2016. There were a few bonehead members of the house but they were quickly shot down. There was no suspension of the count or debate. If in the year 2021 you don’t have access to whatever media you want to tell you whatever fits your world view then we must not be living in the same realities. The mainstream media is bad argument may have been relevant when the media was delivered by a kid on a bike.
 
Weren’t there objections in 2016 and 2004 by Democrats? Maybe you hate the idea of media bias, but they are acting like this is something that has never been done before when it was done the last two elections the dems lost. It just the game. Chit is dirtier than an airplane bathroom. The interesting part is that a lot of the media has become the propaganda arm for one party. The other party has smaller propaganda arms, like a T-Rex or a picture my daughter draws of me.

Can we get the old Happy back? You know, the acerbic asshole who didn't diminish himself into the abyss of this nonsense?
 
Give me a break. You'd have us believe the country is pretty much evenly divided between the two parties but the news and information we digest is all one-sided??? Really???

The only difference between the two is the number of political "news" sites. Fox News' primary competition for conservative eyeballs comes from the various right-wing nutjob sites whose articles are linked as fodder for OP discussions here.

It's why Trump can spew his massive voter fraud BS and get away with it because the internet is full of echo chambers and a gullible audience.
Before Trump, I would have said the same thing. The way the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NPR, etc covered Trump has been an embarrassment for the U.S.
They have constantly repeated the idea that he won’t condemn white supremacy, when he has done it dozens of times. The “there are good people on both sides” quote they willfully misinterpreted or the Atlantic using “anonymous” sources to say Trump hates vets(the story was picked up by larger news sources) are just a few examples. They literally created a narrative around him that was pushed out to unsophisticated rubes or just people willing to believe that the guy on the other side is bad.

I don’t like Trump and I am not a Republican or even much of a conservative. It’s just that easy to see how dishonest the conversation around the man actually is.
 
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That wasn't the question. Your tired media bias serves as a distraction. The point is do you think if the GOP controlled both houses would Biden be confirmed? If Obama was doing what Trump was doing would there be objections?
At the end of the Day Biden will be confirmed, and if the roles were different so would Trump. All of the actions for Trump have been and still as of today lawful, and constitutional. If in the end Someone steps over that line, then it is a different story.
 
Weren’t there objections in 2016 and 2004 by Democrats? Maybe you hate the idea of media bias, but they are acting like this is something that has never been done before when it was done the last two elections the dems lost. It just the game. Chit is dirtier than an airplane bathroom. The interesting part is that a lot of the media has become the propaganda arm for one party. The other party has smaller propaganda arms, like a T-Rex or a picture my daughter draws of me.
I don't think you post is correct. Sir I believe your facts are not correct...
 
I don't think you post is correct. Sir I believe your facts are not correct...
There were objections made on the floor of Congress by Democrat representatives. Biden even turned Maxine Waters microphone off.

 
Before Trump, I would have said the same thing. The way the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NPR, etc covered Trump has been an embarrassment for the U.S.
They have constantly repeated the idea that he won’t condemn white supremacy, when he has done it dozens of times. The “there are good people on both sides” quote they willfully misinterpreted or the Atlantic using “anonymous” sources to say Trump hates vets(the story was picked up by larger news sources) are just a few examples. They literally created a narrative around him that was pushed out to unsophisticated rubes or just people willing to believe that the guy on the other side is bad.

I don’t like Trump and I am not a Republican or even much of a conservative. It’s just that easy to see how dishonest the conversation around the man actually is.


Holy hell. Imagine being more upset that the media is mean to Trump than you are at Trump's insane and embarrassing actions. I don't even know how to respond to this.
 
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All of the actions for Trump have been and still as of today lawful, and constitutional. If in the end Someone steps over that line, then it is a different story.
I agree.

To this point, Trump's shenanigans have stained our country's image and hindered the Biden Administration's transition to power, but it hasn't 'stepped over the line.' The same is true about the Congressional publicity stunt planned for this Wednesday.

But, as someone mentioned on the board earlier today, those former Secretary of Defenses didn't get organized by Dick Cheney (yes, I said DICK CHENEY, not Barack Obama) to make a strong public statement for nothing.
 
Holy hell. Imagine being more upset that the media is mean to Trump than you are at Trump's insane and embarrassing actions. I don't even know how to respond to this.
I expect the politician to lie, the other I should be able to trust. Trump is an outlier in that he is a rambling maniacal bag of hair, bronzing agent and self flattery but not really good at politickin.
 
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Yeah, I was asking both try

Yeah was an open question but I thought an interesting one. If the GOP had both houses and Trump was pulling this shit would we have the same result?
If the GOP held both houses and Trump was in the same position, I think we'd still end up with Biden as president. The GOP for the most part don't like to rock the boat and are comfortable with losing here and there as long and most of them can be re-elected.

If the GOP held the house and the senate and Biden was the incumbent and Trump beat him in the same fashion with the same type of legal challenges by the Biden campaign, I could see them possibly conceding in some places and not counting some votes but not enough to keep Trump from getting to 270. They'd maybe give in on Pennsylvania or Georgia but that would be it. They would think that it's politically expedient but it would just piss everybody off. Their political calculations often defy logic.
 
I expect the politician to lie, the other I should be able to trust. Trump is an outlier in that he is a rambling maniacal bag of hair, bronzing agent and self flattery but not really good at politickin.


I expect the POTUS to not be a treasonous shit bag.
 
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You’ve just eliminated, like, 70 percent of the POTUSES....POTI? If you want politicians, you’re gonna get treason. If you drive the stair car, you’re gonna get hop ons.
Its kind of scary that we are to the point where differing political positions can be considered treasonous. Sure, its just rhetoric now but we've seen how words can be redefined over the last couple of years.
 
You’ve just eliminated, like, 70 percent of the POTUSES....POTI? If you want politicians, you’re gonna get treason. If you drive the stair car, you’re gonna get hop ons.
Can the POTUS even be treasonous? If so, what does that look like compared to just misguided philosophy or incompetence?
 
Trump singlehandedly gave Dems 3 senate seat flips. The Georgia seats based on ill guided election conspiracies and Mark Kelly’s flip in Arizona because of his denigration of McCain. Imagine how many seats he would have cost if all senate elections were held yesterday.
 
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