Jeffrey Epstein

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  1. Crazyhole

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    Arrested last night on child sex trafficking charges. He was having underage girls flown to his Caribbean island so his friends could have sex with them.

    Remember when the Clinton apologists were swearing that he was just flying down there for vacation? Lol.

    I wonder if Epstein was keeping them in cages.
     
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    Wasn’t he great pals with Donald?
     
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    They were neighbors and both billionaires so probably.
     
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    There is definitely a juicy scandal story online that involve the 2. Some guy is also parading a quote around where Trump said Epstein was a great guy who likes his women on the young side. Not sure how damning that is, who hasn’t Trump called great?
     
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    Trump seems more like he wants to be a sex conquerer of women as opposed to just having one placed in his bed by some other guy. I think it's more about ego than sex for him.
     
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    Bill Clinton flew on this guy's plane 26 times and Epstein ran an underage sex ring in the USVI but of course leftie Twitter is obsessing over this 2002 quote from Trump. It never fails.

    That all said, this guy has been investigated up and down by the FBI since 2006 for these crimes and has already went to jail on other charges. This is nothing new for this creep.
     
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    Press conference on his unsealed charges is happening within the hour. In the meantime while you wait please enjoy this quote from Trump in 2002.

    Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002 that Mr. Epstein was a “terrific guy” whom he had known for 15 years.

    “He’s a lot of fun to be with,” the president said at the time. “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
     
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    Already discussed this 3 posts up but it's cute that you returned here thinking you had some awesome ball to drop cuz TDS.

    Thanks for another worthless contribution.
     
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    Pelosis daughter tweeted out that it's likely that there will be a lot of famous or political people who get tied into this. Wouldn't surprise me if Trump is one of them.
     
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    While it wouldn't be surprising, I think she actually worked for Clinton back in the day.
     
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    At this point, with several of the girls vowing to keep going until all of the perps are arrested, it's almost inevitable that Clinton is implicated. He won't go to prison but even the far left will drop him and this is the only thing he will be remembered for.
     
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    Of note: Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago because he sexually assaulted an underage girl there. He also engaged in a conversation about Epstein and how Clinton would get in big trouble for things going on between the 2. I have to think that if Trump was guilty of doing the same thing he would have deferred in that conversation.
     
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    You would think. Trump doesn't speak in the way that the lawyers turned politicians have conditioned us to expect. Because he doesn't parse every word that he utters, and he utters far too many, it's easy to think he's not intelligent. But he's not a stupid man, and even though he doesn't dodge everything with a lot of meaningless words like so many politicians, he tends to be somewhat circumspect around issues where he's vulnerable.
     
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    I wonder why Trump didn't call out Clinton during the 2016 campaign if he knew something.
     
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    Why would you think this statement upsets @UCFKnight85 ? The guy is a huge proponent of the organized child rape institution known as the Catholic Church. You probably just doubled his boner for Trump.
     
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    The exchange you were talking about was in 2015 when he was running against Hillary (or would he running against her shortly) It is possible he brought that up just for the purpose of the campaign. Don't take that the wrong way, certainly a lot of smoke with regards to Clinton in this, but I am not sure that statement from Trump means much of anything with regards to either Clinton or Trump.
     
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    Are we also pretending like Trump didn't walk into the dressing room at a Miss Teen USA pageant and brag about it. Yeah that guy would never be involved with pedophilia.
     
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    For the record I hope every single person associated with this is locked away forever regardless of political party.
     
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    It is possible he didn't think he was/is vulnerable. Let's be honest, Epstein has been known to have been involved in this stuff for years, and has only gotten a slap on the wrist for it. If Trump has been involved (and I emphasize "if"), it is more than possible he felt it was worth bringing up to associate Clinton with it, without actually thinking anything would come of it, and that Trump himself would be at any sort of risk. But, I suppose we will see how it plays out.
     
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    Very possible that he didn't because he is also guilty of the same thing. Also possible that he didn't do it because he was hedging his bet on winning and didn't want to lose the relationship he has with them in the future. Neither one is very admirable, but he isn't exactly someone we should admire in the first place.
     
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    this guy is terrible. unfortunately i think he is extremely well connected with powerful political people on both sides. i dont expect anything to really come of this. i wish someone would shoot in on the streets.
     
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    And yet every single post from you in this thread 'til this one was obsessively about Trump.

    Sure you do.
     
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    So i am very familiar with palm beach and it is very much like a fraternity where everyone knows everyone, love it or hate it. The billionaire elites are many of the biggest donors to the democrat party including epstein. The police department was very much wanting to convict EP but it seems the PD was told to stand down, presumably by the Clinton Machine. Could trump be involved? Maybe, but i would bet more on clinton and other high profile dems. The writing is on the wall.
     
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    He was investigated and the prosecutor, Alex Acosta (who is in Trump's cabinet) cut a deal with him several years ago. It had nothing to do with the police department.
     
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    What's interesting is that if he's being charged again, it must mean that there is NEW evidence to support this since otherwise we'd be in Double Jeopardy territory. The plea deal was a shitty one but was still a legally sound plea deal that likely settle the charges and evidence against him at that time. I don't think they could use or involve any of that in this case for that reason. Which tells me that they've found more wrongdoing that gets around any concerns of Double Jeopardy or stepping on the existing plea deal.
     
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    Yea but the deal was very much done and the chief was fired shortly after for undisclosed terms after pursuing charges heavily
     
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    It doesn't sound like it was legally sound. Acosta never notified or had discusions with the victims in regards to the deal, which by law he was required to. Trump needs to fire Acosta as of today. It isn't a good look.
     
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    This is on the prosecutor, not on the police. I don't know why the chief was fired, but the prosecutor is the one who cut the deal, so I don't see how the police can be faulted.
     
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    He's saying that the cop was fired because the powers-that-be were upset that he was pursuing charges. Acosta obviously didn't do his job, we can only speculate on why.
     
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    Probably just new accusers from the same timeframe that didn't come forward. Anybody who was part of the original deal can't be part of this one but if there really were dozens of girls involved then it won't matter
     
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    I think it is many of the same people. I think the issue was that since the deal was likely illegal, then it can't be considered double jeopardy. That was the way to I took it, but I could be wrong.
     
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    This is just speculation, but I would think that there would have to be new accusers but the original accusers could be used as witnesses. I don't really know exactly how it all works with double jeopardy in a case where there is more than 1 accuser at different times but I know he can't be charged with the same crime from the same accuser twice.
     
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    Technically he can be charged in federal court for the same act even if he has a deal with the local jurisdiction.
     
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    So is the fact that no one acknowledged this post a yes? We're willfully ignoring that Trump bragged about barging into a teenage dressing room? He'd very likely **** an underage girl if given the chance and it sure sounds like he had the chance.
     
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    It's stunning to watch how much of their soul republicans are willing to sell. Remember when this was the party of family values? Now they're raping kids and cheating on their wives with porn stars while maintaining an 80% approval in their party.
     
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    projection

    - Democratic Seattle Mayor Ed Murray resigned Tuesday after more allegations of child sexual abuse surfaced in what is becoming a disturbing pattern of Democratic politicians involved in crimes and allegations of child sexual abuse — scandals largely ignored by the media.

    - Jacob Schwartz, 29, was an up-and-coming young Democrat who worked on New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s staff until he was arrested in May on child pornography charges in which he allegedly kept more than 3,000 images and 89 videos of pornographic acts committed by children.

    - Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) is currently on trial facing federal corruption charges, which started in 2012 over allegations that he and another man were having sex with underage prostitutes.

    - uhh, Anthony Weiner
     
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    Democratic State Senator Dan Sutton of Flandreau, South Dakota accused of fondling a male page. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012401966.html

    Carl Stanley McGee, 38, prominent gay activist, assistant secretary for policy and planning and top aid to democrat governor Deval Patrick of Massachuttsettes, accused of sexually assaulting a 15 year old boy in a steam room at a Florida resort. http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1072114

    Bernard Vincent Ward, former chief legislative aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, self proclaimed "Lion of the Left" on bay area radio, admitted transgressions too numerous to mention. http://prosites-prs.homestead.com/ward_new.pdf

    Davidson County Democratic Party Chairman Rodney Mullins resigned Thursday morning amid child pornography allegations, according to press secretary Jean Carter Wilson of the Davidson County Democratic Party. http://nashvillefiles.com/blog/archives/000808.html

    Former Democrat Boston city councilor David Scondras is facing charges for attempting to lure a teenage boy over the Internet. Investigators said Scondras had several sexually explicit email exchanges with someone he thought was a 15-year-old boy. http://wbztv.com/topstories/Former.Boston.City.2.582093.html

    Charles Rust-Tierney, 51, is a former president of the Virginia chapter of the ACLU from 2002 to 2005. On February 23, 2007, Rust-Tierney was arrested and charged with possession of child pornography. He pleaded guilty to one count of receipt of child pornography on June 1, 2007.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Rust-Tierney

    Andrew Douglas Reed, 53, a North Carolina Democrat activist plead guilty to a page-long list of counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor. Court records in the Asheville, N.C., case said he admitted that he would "record, develop and duplicate material containing a visual representation of a minor engaging in sexual activity." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53070 Scott W. Ballo, a long-time spokesman for various Democratic political campaigns and a former communications director for the Oregon Economic and Community Development Department, was arraigned today in Marion County Circuit Court on two charges of encouraging child sex abuse (both misdemeanors) and one charge of official misconduct (also a misdemeanor), according to the court clerk's office. The charges relate to pornography allegedly found on Ballo's work computer when he was employed by the economic and community development department, according to a person familiar with the case. http://www.wweek.com/wwire/?p=9905

    Mel Reynolds, House of Representatives (D-Il) convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography resulting from a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Reynolds

    Gary Studds Studds was a central figure in the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with minors — in Studds' case, a 1973 sexual relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
     
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    Shhhh dont mention too many names or the overlords may have you commit a seth rich
     
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    LEFTIES BTFO
     

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