Jesse Jackson says Racism is to blame for little league team fiasco
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I honestly don't get the big deal, these kids still got to celebrate? Still got to go to the White House? Still have the trophies and t-shirts right? I mean who gives a shit if they strip the title, just like Reggie Bush still is a Heisman winner, stripping titles and wins and awards is just stupid.
Yeah, I don't know about that (racism leading to the title loss), but Andrew McCuthchen had an outstanding editorial about this the other day. The sad reality is that many talented, but low-income, youth players don't really have a chance in the current little league/AAU setup. This leads to sympathetic parents and coaches outside of said players' geographic territories to help them financially with travel, equipment and uniform costs to get them on these traveling All-star squads.
Andre McCutchen Editorial
Andre McCutchen Editorial
I didnt read the article, but I wasnt aware that if you were poor, you still had to put your kid into sports which cost a lot of money.
Thanks for the article. My brother actually played with him in Little League in Lakeland then against him in High School. They were in the same district. I know the coach and a few of the other people he mentioned. Great story but definitely a lot of truth to the cost of sports these days.
You can play PAL baseball for free or really cheap, but the "players" are in Little League. Let's say LL House League is $100 a season ( no clue if it is or not ) - still pretty affordable.
Now little Johnny shows enough aptitude that Commander Limp Dick wants to relive his dreams that never materialized in his youth so he "recruits" your kid into his travel team. That will be $1,000 + travel.
To build our team's resume and get them ready for the big tourney, we are also going to play in these 5 tournaments that are all 2 day tournaments 200 miles from town. You could just send your kid, but let's face it, my wife left me 2 years ago because I was obsessed with baseball and a bit of a drinker so I can't guarantee your kid isn't going to get the crap beat out of him by the other kids because he is the new kid so you might want to go ahead and travel with us at a rate of $129 a night for the hotel plus food, plus gas because as I said, I am a bit of a drinker, plus your share of the tournament fee. Oh and did I mention, 12 players came so your kid will see action for about 3 innings a game.
Now it is time for the big tournament. We are bringing in a hitting coach at a rate of $250 an hour and really it is just my cousin Floyd who made it to the state title in high school. Floyd is going to yell at your son for 3 hours and screw up his swing and it is going to cost you $100.
Alright, we are going to the county tournament. Boom done. That was easy, your kid is a superstar. The bench would have floated away without his diligence in sitting on it.
Let's go to Districts in the neighboring town. Boom Done. A little tougher but it was close so it was cheap. Sure, I mean your kid only got the mandatory tournament at bats while my son Tagger played every pitch of every game even though he had 8 errors and struck out 5 times.
It's time for State's in the Big City - This is a 3 day tourney and the host hotel is $200 a night plus all of the fees. We are going to sell chicken wings to raise the money. Oops we fell short, but thanks for buying $500 worth of wings, we just need another $250 for this trip.
Can you believe it, we won States. Time for Regionals. Yeah, let's face it, sell the car, it is a 5 day tournament and we are going to have to fly there.
Holy crap. I haven't had an erection since my wife left, but seeing that final score, I am pretty sure that I my jock strap was a little fuller than usual. Why yes, I do wear a jock you know just in case an errant ball makes it into the dugout and hits me.
It is off to the Little League World Series. I know it has been a long road to get here and we just need each kid to raise about $2,500 mostly because I got so drunk at regionals and trashed my hotel room and now have to pay for damages, but yeah, let's say it is for the big series thing and I promise your kid is going to get to play a full game somewhere in here.
TLDR - just a fun look at little league tournament teams.
Now little Johnny shows enough aptitude that Commander Limp Dick wants to relive his dreams that never materialized in his youth so he "recruits" your kid into his travel team. That will be $1,000 + travel.
To build our team's resume and get them ready for the big tourney, we are also going to play in these 5 tournaments that are all 2 day tournaments 200 miles from town. You could just send your kid, but let's face it, my wife left me 2 years ago because I was obsessed with baseball and a bit of a drinker so I can't guarantee your kid isn't going to get the crap beat out of him by the other kids because he is the new kid so you might want to go ahead and travel with us at a rate of $129 a night for the hotel plus food, plus gas because as I said, I am a bit of a drinker, plus your share of the tournament fee. Oh and did I mention, 12 players came so your kid will see action for about 3 innings a game.
Now it is time for the big tournament. We are bringing in a hitting coach at a rate of $250 an hour and really it is just my cousin Floyd who made it to the state title in high school. Floyd is going to yell at your son for 3 hours and screw up his swing and it is going to cost you $100.
Alright, we are going to the county tournament. Boom done. That was easy, your kid is a superstar. The bench would have floated away without his diligence in sitting on it.
Let's go to Districts in the neighboring town. Boom Done. A little tougher but it was close so it was cheap. Sure, I mean your kid only got the mandatory tournament at bats while my son Tagger played every pitch of every game even though he had 8 errors and struck out 5 times.
It's time for State's in the Big City - This is a 3 day tourney and the host hotel is $200 a night plus all of the fees. We are going to sell chicken wings to raise the money. Oops we fell short, but thanks for buying $500 worth of wings, we just need another $250 for this trip.
Can you believe it, we won States. Time for Regionals. Yeah, let's face it, sell the car, it is a 5 day tournament and we are going to have to fly there.
Holy crap. I haven't had an erection since my wife left, but seeing that final score, I am pretty sure that I my jock strap was a little fuller than usual. Why yes, I do wear a jock you know just in case an errant ball makes it into the dugout and hits me.
It is off to the Little League World Series. I know it has been a long road to get here and we just need each kid to raise about $2,500 mostly because I got so drunk at regionals and trashed my hotel room and now have to pay for damages, but yeah, let's say it is for the big series thing and I promise your kid is going to get to play a full game somewhere in here.
TLDR - just a fun look at little league tournament teams.
Youth sports are largely a scam, especially the AAU. There is little that is actually amateur about them. They condone paying kids to be on teams for one tournament, encourage long travel trips, and it's almost always the teams with the most $$ from sponsors (or parents) that win. It's sick. But if you want to play pro hoops or baseball, you'd better get involved with AAU. More and more scouts for the pros and colleges are looking there vs. HS for quality players.
Much more efficient for scouts. Especially with limited scouting and recruiting budgets.
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isnt this the same guy that has kept pretty quiet since he was caught on tape saying Barak obama was talking down to "Evil N word in plural form"?
I wonder how he kissed his own ass to apologize...
I wonder how he kissed his own ass to apologize...
lol, no.
AAU was created (for baseball at least) because so many little leagues were pure shit and held kids back if they were playing amongst bad competition. I stopped playing LL before high school since my AAU team was leaps and bounds better than anything going on with the local LL.
Did it suck traveling? Yes. But in the end it was such a better experience. In fact my AAU team has guys currently in the major leagues- Tyler Clippard, Chris Coghlan, Todd Redmond.
Not to burst your bubble, but the AAU was created in 1888 and Little League in 1939. It was designed to be olympic prep and was at least for a time, the national governing body of a lot of sports which meant it had the power to create and modify rules of the sport as well as oversee the establishment of national olympic teams for the sport.
The reason AAU was established in your home town could have been because the competition was crap or more likely because the guy who established that league got into a pissing match with the people in the Little League organization and took his toys to play elsewhere and then realized he could make more money going through AAU than Little League.
Leagues in just about any sport are formed for 3 reasons:
1) Ego to be in charge of the fiefdom
2) To financially gain through the exploitation of parents on behalf of their children
3) Because they are a government employee who was told to do so by their boss
lol. First you bitch about your kids' school, now you're wrong about AAU.
It was created in Florida long ago because LL's were shit. And still are shit. They have ridiculous "everyone plays!" rules that only aim to dumb down the game and ruin competition.
"Everyone plays" is fine for 8 year olds; it's completely idiotic when you're getting into 12-15 year olds.
It's no coincidence that when I got to high school, all of my AAU teammates were also the best players on their HS teams. THe kids who only played LL either didn't make the varsity team or rode the bench for 4 years.
If you want to bitch about this "exploiting parents" then go ahead. I see it as a way to provide a league for the better, more dedicated athletes to play together and get better.
It was created in Florida long ago because LL's were shit. And still are shit. They have ridiculous "everyone plays!" rules that only aim to dumb down the game and ruin competition.
"Everyone plays" is fine for 8 year olds; it's completely idiotic when you're getting into 12-15 year olds.
It's no coincidence that when I got to high school, all of my AAU teammates were also the best players on their HS teams. THe kids who only played LL either didn't make the varsity team or rode the bench for 4 years.
If you want to bitch about this "exploiting parents" then go ahead. I see it as a way to provide a league for the better, more dedicated athletes to play together and get better.
Sorry, didn't mean to bring facts into an internet argument. I always thought 1888 was less than 1939.
And since you were a kid at the time, you don't know what was going on behind the scenes. Were AAU kids stronger players than their LL counterparts? sure, maybe. Was this just the case in your town, county, state? Maybe.
Was your league started because the parent or parents involved were sick of the asshole running the league and wanted to do it their way? Probably and there in proves the point that there are 3 reasons (not the one you chose to focus on) but 3 reasons that sports leagues start.
- To be in control of their own fiefdom
- To make money off of the kids and parents
- Because they are a public employee who was told to do so
I have been around amateur sports my whole life as a player, a coach, a league manager and working for the national governing body of a sport tasked with establishing and supporting leagues.
You played baseball in elementary and high school. congratulations. You bought the bill of goods they were selling and were happy to so that is a fine transaction where both buyer and seller were happy.
I'm still friends with past teammates who now play for MLB teams, but I'm wrong, because an overweight little league coach and failed retailer knows better.
Got it.
Got it.
Apparently, you didn't learn how to make friends in t-ball. It's ok if you're not right all the time, just accept it and move on. That little man syndrome still hurts doesn't it? It's ok.
I'm confused about the low blows. You work for someone. gds has owned and, afaik, still owns his own business and is successful enough for his kids to play hockey and live in a good neighborhood.
But hey, you know a guy in the MLB, you must know something about AAU/LL, right? Just like how I have a black friend so I can relate, right?
God you make me like Chemmie more and more everyday.
I absolutely hate baseball and I sucked at it as a kid. Chicken or the egg there, I either sucked at it because I hated it or hated it because I sucked at it. So long ago I can't remember.
If you actually had reading comprehension you would have known that.
And my god you are so freakin witty. You remind me of the oaf in the movie Roxanne (a modern day rendering of Cyrano) Here, watch this clip so that you might someday put a little more thought or effort into your insults so that you don't come across constantly as a 2 bit waste of an oxygen processing unit. Let those synapses fire and embrace your creative side instead of being a predictable know-it-all hack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urdf4g-LXk4
Hey, I have a black friend too. We could build a double decker couch for all of our gang meetings and be buddies.
And yes, I do still own businesses (3 to be exact). I had a 4th that was GDS that was supposed to be for my wife to run but it didn't make money like I had hoped and I lost about $250k of my own money on it so I closed it. In the end, the next business that I am opening is with the guy who owned that shopping center.
And yes I am fat. I have a mirror. I eat the wrong stuff and don't get to the gym often enough.
I accept my shortcomings so making fun of them really doesn't phase me one bit and just makes evident the measure of the man that feels that is the best comeback to an intelligent exchange of ideas and can't handle when facts presented don't match his self aggrandized impact on the universe.
The need for AAU baseball came when all the parents , or most of them , who were quality coaches moved in to that realm. Little League doesn't have the quality of coaching overall that it used to, and society has dictated it become an everyone plays, let's not keep score type setting. I hate what travel ball has done to many local leagues, its also very sad that many poorer kids are left out because of it. I hate many of the egotistical sob's that run travel ball are crooks and thieves and don't give a shit about the kids. But the need arose imo when many , many parents became too busy with working out, working, or doing whatever else they could come up with to stop playing ball in the yards with their kids or give their time to local leagues. Baseball coaches and scouts love travel ball and it's big showcases. They do provide a unique opportunity for kids whose desires are to play college or professional baseball. Little League will always exist so if you don't care for travel ball , your kids can play there. If you take up the time with them and they have the talent, chances are you can still build your kid an extended stay in baseball if you so desire. But it won't be as feasible as kids playing the best competition week in and week out . It's just fact. I choose not to throw my dick on the table for measuring in this contest and just offer my opinion. and not insult anyone. I will say Game day that coaching or serving on league boards doesn't make your opinion any more informed on the matter and possibly just makes it more biased
Then just shut up already GDS. I let you offer your 15 paragraph f*cking rants but here you're a moron for insisting that AAU is just for "stupid parents" who are scammed by someone wanting a better deal for themselves. Saying that just proves you're an idiot and I don't give a shit who you have or haven't coached.
My guess is your kid(s) were rejected by some AAU team so now you're here to bitch adn moan about how awful it is and how everyone should stay away.
My guess is your kid(s) were rejected by some AAU team so now you're here to bitch adn moan about how awful it is and how everyone should stay away.
You really don't know how to read do you? You are nearing Marino and Mach level stupid. Go jerk off into your t-ball mitt and reflect on the glory days when mom signed you up for a team that had decent players on it and your coach occasionally let you hold his nut sack in the dugout unlike now where you have to get off on putting out incomprehensible arguments like the mental midget that you are.
You obviously missed these two pieces of information.
TLDR - just a fun look at little league tournament teams.
I really was combining all youth sports at once.
The whole thing was tongue in cheek from the get go, but obviously I struck a nerve with your shortcomings as an athlete that required you to defend you capabilities to hand players their bats and hats while they went out and won the games you are taking credit for.
While you are at it, why don't you apply for the anchor chair at NBC, I hear they have no interest in a true retelling of facts and are just looking for fun stories.
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