John Rhys Plumlee set to make his UCF Baseball debut
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Maybe if he can learn to see the pitches better he’ll also be able to see double coverages or wide open receivers…..
Aren’t there other Qb1 hate threads you could all go circle jerk to? 
True fans want JRP to be successful.
Go Knights!
True fans want JRP to be successful.
Go Knights!
You’re right, true fans absolutely want JRP to be successful. But that’s a doubtful outcome when he himself isn’t willing to do what it takes to become the best QB he can be while he’s also trying to be the best baseball player he can be. No hate here, Just disappointment that Gus would put one player’s desires above all the other players, fans, and the school. Sorry but if he promised JRP he’d definitely be the starter while here then his decision making needs to be reevaluated. You don’t sell out the kingdom by promising the keys to an unproven savior. He’s had two seasons as the starter, in the AAC, and his dedication to improving his game shows. How the other QBs can accept that he won’t be there in the spring but is still being touted as the season’s starter is beyond me. Three weeks of summer practice are going to get him in sync with his receivers, some that have never run a play with him, and a rebuilt offensive line, with a new center that he hasn’t ever worked with? No, not haters. Just the opposite; we all care so much about the team that we expect Gus to put forth the absolute best team he can and we don’t believe that happens with a part-time QB.Aren’t there other Qb1 hate threads you could all go circle jerk to?
True fans want JRP to be successful.
Go Knights!
Been around long enough to see how QBs should progress. I want him to do well but I don't see the commitment, and he has a lot of things to improve on (if you saw the interview with the one QB coach he works with he was very blunt about what he should do between now and next season, and it didn't involve baseball). Hard for me to see him making any kind of big leap. It's not like he's in his 2-3rd year of college ball, and he's not the starter but trying to get that role. Next year is his fifth season of being a college football player. If he was truly meant to be a QB he would have been one the entire time. Furthermore, now that he was named a starter it seems odd he is not 100% focused on being the best QB he can be, knowing the weight that should come with that. It's not a good look for him. It's probably not a good look for the rest of the players busting their @sses with football as their top athletic priority as well.Aren’t there other Qb1 hate threads you could all go circle jerk to?
True fans want JRP to be successful.
Go Knights!
I didn't see him getting better as the year progressed, and his game logs show that. In the last 7 games he threw 3 TDs against 5 int at a 62% completion rate. Only ran for 4 of his 11 TDs in these 7 games and only accumulated 45% of his rushing yards in them, with 2 of those 7 games accounting for 78% of that 45%, so in the other 5 games he averaged 17 yds rushing/game. So if I showed anybody stats of a college starter at a P5 schools and said in the second half of the season they totaled 7 TDs against 7 turnovers (he had two fumbles as well), you think they aren't going to say, "Meh. Average at best."?
I guess as much as I like what Gus is doing with recruiting and making changes in his coaching style, etc... to try and keep things progressing where there seemed to be an issue, I just can't figure out why a coach would roll with a guy that wasn't 100% committed to winning and being a leader, when you are a 5th year player. Now if he had like 25-30 TDs against 5-10 ints and threw for like 3600-3700 yards with a near 70% completion rate last season, this would probably be a different conversation. It's not, though, as just his QB stats were 2500 yds at 62% with 14 TDs against 8 Int.
Is this what a QB does in the off-season to improve his game? Not seeing a backstop anywhere. Obviously, the kid doesn’t understand.
Quality takes here 👍
Other forums are saying that there have been other successful QBs who have played baseball.
John Elway? Kyler Murray?
JRP is NOT those QBs
Other forums are saying that there have been other successful QBs who have played baseball.
John Elway? Kyler Murray?
JRP is NOT those QBs
Is he throwing to a small child in that clip? Fast kid, but he looks tiny.
I wish JRP all the success in the world. I am hoping he can have the kind of improvement we saw out of MK from year one to year 2. But MK was dialed in and 100% focused on football. Not sure you can get better at reading defenses and working on timing with new and existing WR's while trying to hit the cutoff man. I wish him the best, hope he makes a huge leap (it is needed), but I don't see it happening. I have my fingers crossed that TC puts on about 20lbs of muscle and develops as a passer the way MK did from year one to year 2. Having seen some action in a couple of games should help. If he dedicates himself he could be lethal. One thing is for certain, there won't be any Temple's on the conference schedule anymore, at least not to Lance Leipold leaves KU.
I honestly think the other QBs will pass him this offseason.
Most of the analogies used to spin for JRP aren’t accurate. if he was an 18 year old True Freshman the patience w him would be a bit different but he isn’t. Isn’t he a 4 year 22-23 year old already? and two years of not playing QB and his age makes him a ‘project’. I think a Mountain West or CUSA team should be using projects not UCF that is about to become Power 5.
I do not understand Gus willing to risk stalling the Program doing this at the most important position…especially with the talent recruited everywhere else
Folks aren't wrong to be worried about our QB situation next season, but acting like JRP playing baseball is the reason it might be subpar, is a reach at best.
No one cares if he plays baseball, but not practicing or spending time with the team for 6 months is not how you improve. A punter can go play another sport and not see his team for a year and it won't make a difference. The QB is kind of important to be in practice. Even if Plumlee has hit his ceiling skill/decision making wise, you generally want the offensive leader on the team to be with the team.
Not practicing or spending time with the team for 6 months? Why would he not be able to spend time with his football teammates? Everyone's going to be on campus. In the video we're replying to in this thread. He literally says he's playing spring ball.
Lot of experts on JRP's daily routine on this board.
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This isn't high school where you should play a bunch of sports to see what you can take from each of those sports and add it to others. If he has any aspirations of playing QB at a higher level, he needs to commit to that 100% to give himself the best shot at that, whether that ends up being a QB or some other position. I would say the same thing for baseball. I mean he should be practicing his craft to the highest level he can, whether that is good enough for the next level or not, is not always up to the person. It's not like he's a backup WR with 3 years left to improve. Guy is the person responsible for our offense on the field...executing the offense. He has one more season to do this. I don't see how you get better executing at QB by going off and doing some other sport. There's only so many hours in the week to practice, go to school, live a little life and make yourself better, and the clock is ticking.
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Yep, it's obvious that JRP playing baseball and being true to his second-grade self is very controversial. And let's face it, JRP was QB1 last season and is the favorite to be QB1 heading into this season. But the bowl game didn't help so, of course, he'll be under the microscope and will be expected to improve in all phases of his game. That's his challenge and he has to succeed if he wants to be an NFL QB (which he stated that he does). So what are we to believe? Is it the NFL or MLB? Realistically becoming a successful professional athlete in either sport is extremely difficult. History says there is little chance of accomplishing one (especially at QB) and almost no chance of both. Gus knows it, JRP knows it and the fans know it. So, let's see how it plays out but I'm hoping that Gus encourages him to follow his strengths and helps guide him in the right direction. Unfortunately, it's more likely that he will not perform to NFL or MLB standards in either sport which is why we must groom QB2 and QB3 this spring. If one or both can step up and outperform JRP that would be great. That has to be the focus this spring and it will be fun to see what happens. And I trust that Hinshaw will have the right QB1 behind center when we open the season, and will have identified the right QB2, to run his more vertical offense. I think we all look forward to that.
