Josh Odigie Commits
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after seeing how small and unathletic UCF LBs and DEs were on the field last season it's smart to plug in a few more physically mature Jucos to give Frost and the coaching staff time to develop the HS recruits they may get later before signing day
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Some of these guys actually have 3 years of eligibility left i would think. Not sure if they have to be sophomores only to transfer.
This guy had some pretty good offers. Oregon State, Colorado State and San Diego State all offered a scholarship.
This guy had some pretty good offers. Oregon State, Colorado State and San Diego State all offered a scholarship.
Personally I think it is not a good sign when you sign JUCOs. JUCOs have historically been some of our highest rated recruits and biggest busts as well. There is usually a reason why they had to go the JUCO route and how they perform at the JUCO level is rarely an indication how they will do against D1 levels. Better to suck it up for a year, bring in young talent and coach them up.
When you get into the game with a head coach whose contacts are in California, this is what you get.
I find it refreshing to see DEs and OLs with speed. UCFast!
Cross blocking, pulling on offense / loops and slants on defense. Go Knights!
Cross blocking, pulling on offense / loops and slants on defense. Go Knights!
No I don't think so. I think you missed the point. I would rather that Frost took a chance or two with younger/unlnown players who are lower rated than JUCOs. Rely on your local coaches and garner some favor with the HS coaches. JUCOs are generally not what they appear to be. No need to panic, Frost is going to get a pass on next season anyway. Take your time and find a few diamonds in the rough. But hopefully these guys prove the exception to the rule
My thought exactly. If you're going to role the dice and say your recruiting focus is FL, then grab some local kids and coach them up.
Most of the JUCO's weren't even rated so it's hard to recruit "lower rated" players.
I'll give Frost a.pass for signing some JUCOs this year but next year's class better be 95% HS recruits.
Sometimes you see new coaches sacrificing future years by loading up on JUCOs so they can win early and move on but that.leads giant holes in roster depth for the next guy.
He wants to win at least a couple games next year. The OL and the pass rush we had this year obviously aren't good enough. True freshman coming in aren't going to improve it that much. I support SF.
Or what? You going to give him a piece of your mind?
Agree...hence why I hope now that UCF will be back to max scholarships, UCF can start redshirting most of the recruiting class soon as they are worth a lot more during their 3rd, 4th and/or 5th year in the program vs their first.
Sounds good to me. By the way is Brandon going to change the coding for your reputation to "SF inner circle" or is it staying GOL?
it was obvious that some jucos were needed to clean up the mess left by the last staff going 0-12, posted a thread here on it before the season was even over and knew who the new coach would be. With Conference Realignment paronoia UCF doesn't want a snails pace rebuild
This is going back pretty far, but I remember in 2004 we signed three 4 star JUCOs, Chad Morris, Demarcus Johnson and Roy Williams. It was a big coup for Coach K. All of them were busts. Then the next year we recruited 6-7 JUCOs. None of which I recall ever being much of an influence. That hurt our depth especially in experience in the next 2-3 years. Then we signed the #1 JUCO QB in Terry Mayo who never played a down. Not sure he ever made it to campus. Michal Greco played but only because there were no other choices. Jose Jose was a bust. I think Gathers is the only one I can recall being a factor for UCF.
If you look back, historically the JUCO players don't bring the experience or talent that allowed them to really fill the voids. I think it does not bode well to have this many in a class. One, maybe two at most.
JUCOs have not filled that role historically either. They have been a bad investment for UCF.
Transfers > JUCO. There is usually a reason JUCOs could not get signed to any D1 school.
there are/were ACC/Pac12 schools going after these same jucos
don't know why there are fans that think we are above jucos and go on these moral soap boxes when other programs give these guys a second chance. UCF is not Stanford
Well from the offer list the top school I saw recruiting the three JUCOs was Nevada. Even still I don't care if Norte Dame was interested in them. It is not a matter of us being above anyone. Do your homework. Historically JUCOs have been a bad investment for UCF. There is always the exception to the rule and I hope one of these guys proves to be the difference. I just think it is better to suffer through next year getting Freshman experience than to plug holes with JUCOs.
I agree with you on jucos not being the norm.
I think Frost came in and saw that the recruiting class only had 5-6 solid commits which is very low for this point in the recruiting calendar and decided to use Assistant Coach Held's Juco contacts to get those solid commit numbers up immediately. I think when the dead period ends they will go hard at trying to flip a few and close out this class but Frost is on a race against time. It's possible to not even get the full 25 commits by signing day bc of how behind UCF is this cycle
The one good thing about Jucos is the fact that they will only hold up a scholarship for 2-3 years. Could be an indication that Frost sees us ascending to the point that it would be nice to have more scholarships open up sooner, so we can sign better guys.
We have no choice but to grab a few jucos unless our fanbase can withstand another rough year. We need a couple years to get back to normal scholarship levels and our players are all young.
I don't think he's looking for stars with these JuCo signings, I think he's just looking to plug holes and provide some depth while he and his staff get up and running. He was majorly behind the 8-ball to come in on December 1 with only 6 verbals and no staff. The roster is depleted from scholarship reductions, etc., and will take a few years to rebuild. More experienced guys will help ease that transition. The lack of experience this season was unprecedented. Freshmen and walk-ons starting all over the field. I think that is his thinking.
By way of example, look at the Boykins kids this season. Both came over from Georgia Military College and were starting within a few games. The roster is pathetic right now.
By way of example, look at the Boykins kids this season. Both came over from Georgia Military College and were starting within a few games. The roster is pathetic right now.
Those kids are committed to the program for 4-5 years. The JUCOs are committed for 2 allowing room for better recruits in a couple years.
I am not willing to write off the players that are already on the team so quickly. I guess another way of looking at it is that we will have a large number of returning players with experience. Not overly productive experience because they were thrown to the wolves, but every bit as much as the JUCO players and against much better competition. I am not sure that the JUCOs are going to provide that much additional experience and stability. The team this year was a ship without a rudder. I bet a number of those players step up under Frost's new system and with the renewed coaching attention.
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