Let's go back to the end of last year

[Ucfmikes]

So., what's our record with Holman for all 3 games, Dickey who was sick or hurt, Demetrius Anderson, a healthy Grant, Wilson, Miles Pace, freaking Glenn who should have never left, and Akins the whole last game?

I know it's a lot of ifs, but it's all true.
We aren't who we thought we would be.


I say 2-1 and a close Stanford game or an upset with a real chance to win this weekend.

Did we really have so much more talent than FIU or Furman with a more experienced QB vs our Freshmen at the most important position?

I don't think so.

That's why I'm not as so suicidal/panicking as many and i'm going to ride this out.

 

[Stormthecourt?]

So., what's our record with Holman for all 3 games, Dickey who was sick or hurt, Demetrius Anderson, a healthy Grant, Wilson, Miles Pace, freaking Glenn who should have never left, and Akins the whole last game?

I know it's a lot of ifs, but it's all true.
We aren't who we thought we would be.


I say 2-1 and a close Stanford game or an upset with a real chance to win this weekend.

Did we really have so much more talent than FIU or Furman with a more experienced QB vs our Freshmen at the most important position?

I don't think so.

That's why I'm not as so suicidal/panicking as many and i'm going to ride this out.

Most of those guys don't play offense. And Holman played the FIU game and we lost. The problem is much deeper than missing a few players,

 

[ucfversusbcs]

Most of those guys don't play offense. And Holman played the FIU game and we lost. The problem is much deeper than missing a few players,

I'm just wondering what the hardliners will do if someone pulls the trigger and Gol steps down. Will they turn into troll insurgents for gol?

 

[firm_bizzle]

Is Taffe coaching?

 

[Gwoz]

Did we really have so much more talent than FIU or Furman with a more experienced QB vs our Freshmen at the most important position?

I don't think so.

Not much more talent than Furman, because you are playing a Freshman QB? No more scheduling FCS teams with experienced QBs, tell GOL to avoid Stetson.

Marshall started a true freshman last weekend cruising to a 45-7 win after junior qb is injured.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Not much more talent than Furman, because you are playing a Freshman QB? No more scheduling FCS teams with experienced QBs, tell GOL to avoid Stetson.

Marshall started a true freshman last weekend cruising to a 45-7 win after junior qb is injured.

Not much more talent than Furman, because you are playing a Freshman QB? No more scheduling FCS teams with experienced QBs, tell GOL to avoid Stetson.

Marshall started a true freshman last weekend cruising to a 45-7 win after junior qb is injured.

Don't be a dick. Nobody is saying not to schedule an FCS team.. Where did I write that?? Who's talking about Stetson smartass?

If you actually watched the game, you would have actually seen that both of our QBs aren't better than Furman's at this point and there wasn't much of a talent difference with all our injuries and players lost to graduation. Too many young players thrown out there.

That's why we lost. We really aren't better than them at this point. FIU as well.

Play-calling? Yeah, it sucked, but we shouldn't need an innovative offensive mind to beat these teams.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Most of those guys don't play offense. And Holman played the FIU game and we lost. The problem is much deeper than missing a few players,

Mike, I see what you're saying. We're all going to ride this out, but, Like Storm the court said, I do think the problems are deeper.

-defense is not doing to badly, FIU and furman were low scoring games for our opponents.
-Stanford didn't blow us out given that our defense was exhausted.
-I think we have very good athletes but they are not prepared, they are not coached up.
-Why are we making Nick Patti the focus of our future offense?
-I know this is controversial but why are we putting Jordan Akers in a dangerous kick-off returning spot?
-I know the coaches are trying to see who's the best QC. But are we doing this the right way (Nick Patti)
-What the heck is going on with the Stanback-GOL head games. We are desparate...use Will.
-Biggest problem: The O-line, getting first downs, and play calling.

Your thoughts?

 

[Poolside Knight]

UCF lost to a team that hadn't had a D1 win since Y2K fear mongering was a thing

the lengths some go to defend GOL is something else, a loss like this is understandable in a new rebuild 1st or 2nd year coach but not a guy that has his Program in place for a decade. This type of quick decline and setback is unacceptable

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

UCF lost to a team that hadn't had a D1 win since Y2K fear mongering was a thing

the lengths some go to defend GOL is something else, a loss like this is understandable in a new rebuild 1st or 2nd year coach but not a guy that has his Program in place for a decade. This type of quick decline and setback is unacceptable

I agree Poolside. GOL has built this program for 10 years. 10 years of recruiting, etc. He makes $1.5 million dollars a year. He makes this type of money to put together a QUALITY team/program. We are witnessing high school level decision making and play calling...maybe worse. And don't get me wrong, the players are dropping passes, fumbling. I think we had 5 turnovers against Furman?

 

[UCFBS]

That's why I'm not as so suicidal/panicking as many and i'm going to ride this out.

This season is not going to be good. I think we've all started to admit this. We're no longer talking about 0.500, but hoping for a few wins. The question is if the Freshmen will improve, and the program can get back on-track. And we won't know the full answer to that until 4-5 games into next year.

We've been spoiled with 3 conference dominating seasons in a row, 4 out of the last 5. People forget not just 2011, but also 2008 when we had a horrendous offense, as well as 2006 and the awful 2004 season. Right now we're looking at a 2004, with a strong hint of dropping a game to a lesser division in 1995. It could be our worst season in 20 years, before even Coach K.

If GoL cannot right the ship by 4-5 games into 2016, then I'll be on the case for his ending his tenure after next year. But if you ask people outside of UCF -- such as those fans of other teams in our conference -- what they would do with someone like him at the head of their program, they'd probably say something quite different.

"Oh yeah, I'd take 2 conference titles, plus a divisional, for one down year."

Seriously guys ... let's face it. Many of you have been mad for so many years because those of us who liked the GoL program, the unsexy, ball control, raise the kids to be men, academics first, ended up having winning seasons and even a very unexpected BCS trophy. You hate being wrong more than what's good for the program.

The fact that you're dipping into Plancher is just proof of what it's all about.

And now ... you guys are having your wet dream. Possibly our worst season in 20 years, and you're giddy with the thought. That somehow we're unobjective nuthuggers who are blindly in love with GoL, and we are stupid. As if beyond the grades and off-the-field, all those conference titles and other successes mean nothing too.

Which is why you won't take the losing season at all, or give GoL 4-5 games into next season, to see if the Freshmen and other "student-athlete investments," work out.

Such fans remind me of 2004 all over again, short-term goals only.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

This season is not going to be good. I think we've all started to admit this. We're no longer talking about 0.500, but hoping for a few wins. The question is if the Freshmen will improve, and the program can get back on-track. And we won't know the full answer to that until 4-5 games into next year.

We've been spoiled with 3 conference dominating seasons in a row, 4 out of the last 5. People forget not just 2011, but also 2008 when we had a horrendous offense, as well as 2006 and the awful 2004 season. Right now we're looking at a 2004, with a strong hint of dropping a game to a lesser division in 1995. It could be our worst season in 20 years, before even Coach K.

If GoL cannot right the ship by 4-5 games into 2016, then I'll be on the case for his ending his tenure after next year. But if you ask people outside of UCF -- such as those fans of other teams in our conference -- what they would do with someone like him at the head of their program, they'd probably say something quite different.

"Oh yeah, I'd take 2 conference titles, plus a divisional, for one down year."

Seriously guys ... let's face it. Many of you have been mad for so many years because those of us who liked the GoL program, the unsexy, ball control, raise the kids to be men, academics first, ended up having winning seasons and even a very unexpected BCS trophy. You hate being wrong more than what's good for the program.

The fact that you're dipping into Plancher is just proof of what it's all about.

And now ... you guys are having your wet dream. Possibly our worst season in 20 years, and you're giddy with the thought. That somehow we're unobjective nuthuggers who are blindly in love with GoL, and we are stupid. As if beyond the grades and off-the-field, all those conference titles and other successes mean nothing too.

Which is why you won't take the losing season at all, or give GoL 4-5 games into next season, to see if the Freshmen and other "student-athlete investments," work out.

Such fans remind me of 2004 all over again, short-term goals only.

I think you are correct. They would never let him loose given what he has done for the program. Considering the injuries and everything else, he'll get a PASS this year to build the team. If we are this bad by next season I would hope to see some things in motion. I do have deep concern at OC and recruiting and practice sessions.

 

[Poolside Knight]

UCF with crap facilities and no budget never had a loss as bad as last Saturday

before the final score to make it 20-1

Just a reminder, #UCF is 20-0 against FCS schools since moving to the FBS in 1996 #FURvsUCF

 

[ucfversusbcs]

I think you are correct. They would never let him loose given what he has done for the program. Considering the injuries and everything else, he'll get a PASS this year to build the team. If we are this bad by next season I would hope to see some things in motion. I do have deep concern at OC and recruiting and practice sessions.

The complaints of the money our school doesnt have coupled with pathetic losses to lesser programs at home expose the cheap cronyism of Hitt and GOL. The 60k students, new buildings, new stadiums will no longer be able to hide the sad truth.

 

[Ucfmikes]

UCF with crap facilities and no budget never had a loss as bad as last Saturday

before the final score to make it 20-1

Just a reminder, #UCF is 20-0 against FCS schools since moving to the FBS in 1996 #FURvsUCF

I don't know. When is the last time you saw such bad QB play?? Look at the stat line. It's terrible. I've never seen a QB passing line that bad. Our QB and WR combination is as bad as it has ever been in many years. No top RB or
O-lineman to top it off. I see really bad play and little talent on the offensive side of the ball. I know they are young.

 

[Boston.Knight2]

GOL's major mistake - perhaps even to his demise - was to do some hand waving at the loss of David Kelly. He never replaced him with anybody nearly as capable. Every program needs that one stellar recruiter. Ol' Kirk tried to fill that roll. But now we got nobody and it sticks out like a sore thumb.

The longer GOL lets this problem fester , the longer the program suffers.

 

[Victorywayucf]

GOL's major mistake - perhaps even to his demise - was to do some hand waving at the loss of David Kelly. He never replaced him with anybody nearly as capable. Every program needs that one stellar recruiter. Ol' Kirk tried to fill that roll. But now we got nobody and it sticks out like a sore thumb.

The longer GOL lets this problem fester , the longer the program suffers.

Not making Kirk defensive coordinator or atleast codefensive coordinator with Lorenzo was the dumbest thing George did this year, worse than hiring a Key.

 

[ECPSUP]

Not making Kirk defensive coordinator or atleast codefensive coordinator with Lorenzo was the dumbest thing George did this year, worse than hiring a Key.

LOL... VICTORY ... you are a joke!

 

[Victorywayucf]

LOL... VICTORY ... you are a joke!

You mean just like letting the guy who's unit just won uf 2 straight games walk is a joke?

 

[Knight_Light]

I'm just wondering what the hardliners will do if someone pulls the trigger and Gol steps down. Will they turn into troll insurgents for gol?

What is a hardliner?

Unlike you, myself and others are diehard fans, regardless who is coachung UCF sports team.

I've been cheering for UCF For ball since McDowell started and some Coach name Phil Carter was UCF Hoop Coach.

It's called supporting your Univ and having pride in academics, athletics and now in the business world.

Maybe you will grow up and get there (I already had pride/loved UCF when I was a student), then again maybe u will just live on with a troll account as the most important thing u do.

God luck with that.