Maryland 34-UCF 18
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Do you think their defense is better than michigans?
20 point adjustment for B1G referees, seems about right.
Are you serious, that the game will have B1G refs? Please say it ain't so. Bc if it is, I think SAD is 100 on the score prediction.
Away 1 and dones (like UMich) are the other team's refs
Home games as part of a home and home (like this Maryland) are the other team's refs
The upside is it will at least be an AAC replay booth this week. So at least the BS targeting would have been overturned.
Those were AAC refs last Saturday that missed all the holds and ejected a UCF player on a clean hit.
... but that's none of my business...
Those were AAC refs last Saturday that missed all the holds and ejected a UCF player on a clean hit.
... but that's none of my business...
Doesn't mean Michigan didn't pay them off....
I did a full recap of all the no-call holds and much more of the Michigan game.
https://michigan.forums.rivals.com/forums/football.20/
Those were AAC refs last Saturday that missed all the holds and ejected a UCF player on a clean hit.
... but that's none of my business...
They were B1G refs, bub.
If they were, it's a violation of the rules because on OOC games, the traveling team brings the refs from their conference or from another available conference that isn't the one of the home team...
bub...
If the teams agreed on B1G refs because of the game being a 1 and done, then UCF is stupid...
... and dumb...
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Violation of what rule? It is contract based. As an Indy we had SEC refs for the most part.
It was addressed in one of the press conferences with Frost. They asked him about having B1G refs and he said all that was handled in the contract before he arrived. Apparently Maryland also gets B1G refs this Saturday, but I'm assuming we get AAC next year @Maryland.
The whole concept of conference referees seems extremely antiquated and I'm sure many will be pushing for a new system.
Unless agreed upon, the visiting team brings their own conference refs. I'm not making this up, this is the way it's always been. Sometimes, I guess, on one and dones, the host teams might use their own officials, but doing that is asinine.
And, yes, conference officials is a stupid and antiquated concept that needs to go away.
It would be interesting to see if the UM started making this a condition of their one-and-dones after AppSt.
They can make whatever conditions they want. They offered $1.5 million with big 10 officials. Ucf didn't have to accept that condition.
@jetsaholic, normally you would be right that visiting teams get to bring their own conferences refs. But more and more we are seeing the P5 conferences negotiate into the contracts that they get to use their own refs for these one and done games against G5 teams.
That is what happened in Michigan. They were Big 10 refs as agreed upon and negotiated into the contract by both Michigan and UCF. It sucks, but that's the way it was.
That is what happened in Michigan. They were Big 10 refs as agreed upon and negotiated into the contract by both Michigan and UCF. It sucks, but that's the way it was.
I don't blame UM, if you can get the refs more power to you. I blame our short-term AD that signed the deal. I have a feeling Frost and White already discussed this and you won't see a deal like this again.
BTW, I think the only "rule" is that the home team supplies the replay booth officials.
Maryland is nothing special, If your Dline plays like it did last week....UCF can win.
From a Michigan fan, i will be rooting for you guys all year and hoping the big 12 accepts you.
From a Michigan fan, i will be rooting for you guys all year and hoping the big 12 accepts you.
You're doing a good job over there
I think it was Oklahoma St that said they would no longer allow other conference officials in their home stadium after the Central Michigan fiasco.
How do we find out if it's the same crew as last week? Unlikely, but ...
Perhaps we can send them the missing page from their rule book that mentions "holding" (as well as the part that defines "targeting")
UM fans have the nicest I've seen on this board. Amazing!
I think we will take the 1.5 million and have their refs, unless we really become a football power. That's some decent cash
Compared to a good home and home, I don't think it's a huge difference. If you can get 42k in the stands for the home game and average about $70 per person between ticket price, concessions, and parking that's $3 million (or an average of $1.5m per game).
Maybe 42k or $70/pp is too optimistic, but is the difference between that and reality worth playing against a completely stacked deck?
Hope you mean for their own players since they were outhit
I don't think that we get nearly 1.5 million a game, especially vs the lesser team that would fill the slot
I personally would rather roll the dice and try for the upset to propel our program. Also the national exposure. Ideally, we at least make a game of it. Most schools get $400-600,000 now.
Maryland D and offense looks a lot different than UM in game last week. I believe we'll be fun to root for by non-UCF fans here as soon as our QB starter play improves. Frost knows what he's doing, we'll get there before this season is over. UM is legit team to play Alabama for championship. Let's be real here, Alabama is going to be there at the end of this season again.
I fully expect us to run for a lot of yards and break some long ones on them. Just wait. Frost said that there was evidence that Michigan's defense was a little tired when Wilson broke off
that run.
Scary thought now what we are capable of doing vs just mere mortals on defense like the rest of our schedule.
I really like our backs and run blocking.
300 yards this week!!!!
Thanks for the link, I watched a little in between banging out some work. Some notes from what I saw:
1. We better fix the issues on special teams and be screwed on tight (obvious, but especially facing Maryland). The announcers specifically mentioned that Durkin is one of those coaches who plays a lot of his starters on ST. Will Likely on returns is a known and feared threat. FIU's short kickoffs to avoid Likely seemed to payoff pretty well as the up guys struggled a few times to corral the ball and that kept Maryland at least inside their own 30. If Legatron can't put it deep into the EZ due to wind or whatever then I'd look for us to utilize some of that. Maryland mixed in pop-up placement kickoffs with driven kickoffs into the end zone to FIU, so I'd look for them to continue that to keep our kickoff return crew guessing.
2. Senior QB Hills was impressive. No single standout skill or attribute but he seems to do everything pretty well. Good size and toughness. Nice functional mobility with a second gear in the open field. The arm strength looks about average. He was accurate and looked in complete control of the offense. You can win a lot of games with a guy like this with the right pieces around him. Could end up being the difference in the game this Saturday.
3. Little true freshman running back Harrison is very shifty and has speed to house it. They rotate a lot of guys at RB. D.J. Moore is the clear favorite receiver of Hills. Moore displays good hands and speed. Moore DESTROYED the FIU corner on a stutter and go for a TD -- Need good coverage on Moore to force Hills to go elsewhere with the ball, but Maryland will move him all over the field and ensure he gets his touches. Moore completed a pass to QB Hills on a double reverse almost identical to what we ran with Payton to Holman against SC State.
4. I saw some sloppy tackling in Maryland's secondary. If we can get the ball to some playmakers in space there's a good chance of exploiting that for big gains. FIU was able to open up some holes in the running game early, but they fell so far behind so quickly that they couldn't really build on that later in the game. FIU's starting QB went down early in the game and then returned in the 2nd half. The weather got real messy early in the 2nd half.
5. The announcers did not seem to think UCF (or Purdue in week 4) has a chance. They were advancing Maryland to 4-0 already when looking ahead at their schedule. Here's hoping Maryland's players are looking past UCF as well.
I think it will be a big ask of our UCF squad to beat Maryland. They look pretty deep at all positions. Their lines are big and strong like you'd expect when a P5 team comes to town - I expect them to be winning the line of scrimmage the majority of the night. Most importantly, they have a Senior QB who can get the ball to his playmakers and he can also use his mobility to convert first downs when we do neutralize the other weapons around him. We need a big and loud crowd and a few favorable bounces to pull this one to our favor, IMO.
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Don't worry, B1G refs don't think of us as a B1G team yet anyway...
It will be a good game but Maryland is tough. Really I think it comes down to the QB position and if we can actually throw the ball some this game to open the run game.
Since Frost isn't letting on which QB will play, Maryland is currently preparing for both by blindfolding their scout team QB and having him randomly throw long balls
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