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Michigan Football article: Getting to know their latest opponent

UCFProf said:
http://www.maizenbrew.com/2016/9/7/...ow-michigan-s-week-2-opponent-central-florida
Mentions the "Frost is remembered for saying that Nebraska was far superior to Michigan" 19 years ago on national TV. Them's evidently fighting words in the heart of the rust belt. Calls Holman an average QB at best. Also some great Harbaugh mystique hype in the comments like he's the second coming. Boy, have their fans drunk the Kool Aid.
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Nice spin on a fair article. You should work for Hillary. Lol.

Read it again and include the parts you left out.
 
Dr.Wolverine said:
Nice spin on a fair article. You should work for Hillary. Lol.

Read it again and include the parts you left out.
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Where's the spin? He posted the article, quoted one sentence then made a comment on that and another piece from the article. You guys up there sure can't take any criticism and can't get over something from 20 years ago.
 
Look.., let's face the facts. It's just a bunch of fans and media people totally reaching for bulletin board material and a story. It's a nice piece for ABC, but this whole thing is about as much of a reach as i can ever remember.

Frost, Harbough and the players couldn't give a crap about sometime so long ago. It's completely irrelevant
to this game and a 35.5 point spread.
It's a nothing game in the grand scheme of this season for each team.
 
Gol knew UCF was up to something when they scheduled Michigan at the big house. The writing was on the wall and the name was Frost and 19 year old memories.
 
UCFProf said:
Also some great Harbaugh mystique hype in the comments like he's the second coming. Boy, have their fans drunk the Kool Aid.
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I can assure you that is true. In the history of coaching hires in CFB, it'd be hard to find one that generated as much excitement amongst a fanbase as a local boy returning home to a program that is far down from previous highs and with a resume like his. His turnarounds at USD, Stanford, and even with the 49ers are all legendary. The idea of him walking into his dream job to kick butt and take names is simply overload for most imaginations amongst Michigan fans. His first season in Ann Arbor taking a 5 win team and turning into a 10 win team was simply fuel on the fire. This year he's got a loaded roster with talent all over the field and the expectations for this season (and the future) are sky high.

Does he have to contend with mega powers in OSU locally and Alabama nationally? Sure. But for a coach that dethroned USC from the height of Pete Carroll's dominance at lowly Stanford it doesn't seem like such a reach.

If there is Kool-Aid to be drank, consider pretty much every Michigan fan around to be drunk on it.

Whether the highest of high hopes come true we will have to wait and see. Until then the dreaming is awful fun.
 
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blockm2 said:
I can assure you that is true. In the history of coaching hires in CFB, it'd be hard to find one that generated as much excitement amongst a fanbase as a local boy returning home to a program that is far down from previous highs and with a resume like his. His turnarounds at USD, Stanford, and even with the 49ers are all legendary. The idea of him walking into his dream job to kick butt and take names is simply overload for most imaginations amongst Michigan fans. His first season in Ann Arbor taking a 5 win team and turning into a 10 win team was simply fuel on the fire. This year he's got a loaded roster with talent all over the field and the expectations for this season (and the future) are sky high.

Does he have to contend with mega powers in OSU locally and Alabama nationally? Sure. But for a coach that dethroned USC from the height of Pete Carroll's dominance at lowly Stanford it doesn't seem like such a reach.

If there is Kool-Aid to be drank, consider pretty much every Michigan fan around to be drunk on it.

Whether the highest of high hopes come true we will have to wait and see. Until then the dreaming is awful fun.
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Your dream coach isn't completely unique. Theirs a coach in Florida that did just what your are saying. But he did it 20 years ago. Another coach also in Florida is starting his first year after proving his coaching ability at an SEC school. Can you name the coaches? Probably not.
 
Lord Christopher said:
Your dream coach isn't completely unique. Theirs a coach in Florida that did just what your are saying. But he did it 20 years ago. Another coach also in Florida is starting his first year after proving his coaching ability at an SEC school. Can you name the coaches? Probably not.
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perhaps you could let me know what their coaching resume was before they got hired? Were they one of the winningest coaches in NFL history as well as one of the best at multiple other colleges? Because I don't think they were. That's why it's hard to understate the excitement of Michigan fans over Harbaugh. I mean he went to middle school in Ann Arbor. His dad coached for Michigan. He was a star in college finishing 3rd in Heisman voting twice. He became a big time coach in college and then killed it in the NFL and now he's back home at his dream job.

Don't get me wrong. I understand enthusiasm for a new coach. I get it. I'm just saying there are legitimate and objective reasons why Harbaugh-mania can probably top them all. I mean Mark Richt? He's a decent coach that did alright in Georgia. I certainly hope you aren't comparing the enthusiasm over his hiring in Miami to Harbaugh. I mean you can't be, right?

I realize this is a UCF board and I get that you guys are also kinda pumped about your new coach. That's a good thing. Go with it. I'm just trying to put the enthusiasm for Harbaugh in Ann Arbor into some sort of perspective. It's beyond crazy.
 
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That article is pretty spot on and objective. Nothing to get vexed about. As far as U of M fans drinking the Kool Aid, they flippin' should. They got a good coach who is hell bent on winning and he's one of their own. Drink up!

I just don't get this whole Harbaugh/Frost crap from 20 years ago. It's just weak-azz filler so the media has something to talk about and is boring AF. Man, kickoff can't get here quick enough.
 
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UCFSig said:
That article is pretty spot on and objective. Nothing to get vexed about. As far as U of M fans drinking the Kool Aid, they flippin' should. They got a good coach who is hell bent on winning and he's one of their own. Drink up!

I just don't get this whole Harbaugh/Frost crap from 20 years ago. It's just weak-azz filler so the media has something to talk about and is boring AF. Man, kickoff can't get here quick enough.
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[cheers] Agreed!

I'm pretty sure neither coach really cares either. They're both just focuses on getting their team prepared for Saturday.

The media will push anything for ratings, no matter how much of a stretch it really is.
 
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Ohio State and Oklahoma got their dream coaches from Florida that restored their storied history. And Jimbo will likely move on to the NFL soon. Even UCF sent its defensive coordinator to the SEC to making a head coaching splash.
 
I'm not an Urban Meyer fan, but Jim Harbaugh is Urban Meyer Lite. He turns thinks around quickly, but can't win the big one like Meyer has. Neither guy stays anywhere more than a few years either, which is why neither is Nick Saban.
 
dollerroller said:
I'm not an Urban Meyer fan, but Jim Harbaugh is Urban Meyer Lite. He turns thinks around quickly, but can't win the big one like Meyer has. Neither guy stays anywhere more than a few years either, which is why neither is Nick Saban.
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The problem with this thought is both are now back home. That changes things.
 
UCFSig said:
I just don't get this whole Harbaugh/Frost crap from 20 years ago. It's just weak-azz filler so the media has something to talk about and is boring AF. Man, kickoff can't get here quick enough.
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It actually isn't a Harbaugh/Frost thing, it's actually just a Scott Frost's mom thing vs the editors of the Michigan rivals site. Harbaugh is unrelated in any way to the story. Michigan as a whole is unrelated to the story. Just a weird/interesting/strange tidbit related to the matchup.
 
dollerroller said:
I'm not an Urban Meyer fan, but Jim Harbaugh is Urban Meyer Lite. He turns thinks around quickly, but can't win the big one like Meyer has. Neither guy stays anywhere more than a few years either, which is why neither is Nick Saban.
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Unlike Meyer, Harbaugh has only moved on from jobs to move up to a better job. He left D2 U San Diego to go to Stanford. He left Stanford to go to the NFL. He left the NFL to coach his alma mater. That's probably the end of the road for his coaching moves. He's now at his life long dream job. The odds of him leaving in the next 3 or 4 years are probably lower than him being in Ann Arbor 15+ years. He has young kids that he'd like to raise in Ann Arbor going to the same schools he went to.
 
blockm2 said:
The odds of him leaving in the next 3 or 4 years are probably lower than him being in Ann Arbor 15+ years. He has young kids that he'd like to raise in Ann Arbor going to the same schools he went to.
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He just has a way of pissing off people or letting trivial things get stuck in his craw. Big ego, pride, vanity, and pettiness -- whatever you want to call these things. Check out his tweets about the Forty-Niners -- just can't let it drop. He was about to be fired at SF not for poor coaching but for not playing well with top brass. College coaching is about not enraging powerful alumni or university administrators as well as keeping a low profile when campus scandals erupt. Not sure his Ditka-like temperament can be kept in check for too many years. The lure of the NFL may also call him back when he tires of recruiting or campus political correctness.
 
UCFProf said:
He just has a way of pissing off people or letting trivial things get stuck in his craw. Big ego, pride, vanity, and pettiness -- whatever you want to call these things. Check out his tweets about the Forty-Niners -- just can't let it drop. He was about to be fired at SF not for poor coaching but for not playing well with top brass. College coaching is about not enraging powerful alumni or university administrators as well as keeping a low profile when campus scandals erupt. Not sure his Ditka-like temperament can be kept in check for too many years. The lure of the NFL may also call him back when he tires of recruiting or campus political correctness.
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He has little desire to get back to the NFL. NFL players can't be yelled at like college kids. They are professionals with 8 figure contracts and agents and families and on and on and on. College kids expect to get yelled at by their coach and unlike most coaches, he finds recruiting to be fun. That's why he goes out and works a billion satellite camps. He's spreading his gospel of football and it isn't even work to him.

It's also advantageous to him that college players are only there for 3-4 years before they move on. By the time they get tired of his intensity, they are in the NFL and new 18 year olds have moved in to replace them.

He's absolutely a perfect fit for college, and he fits nowhere better than Ann Arbor. People worship the ground he walks on and after the RichRod and Brady Hoke years the boosters are the ones pumping money into the system to keep him, not to fire him.


Jim Harbaugh is absolutely crazy and his insanity is 100% directed into football. It's simply perfect.
 
Harbaugh is back in college because he couldn't get over the hump in the NFL. He thought he'd be the next Bill Walsh but was on his way to being Marv Levy and left before the loses in big games continued. I mean they did continue as he lost to Michigan state and Ohio state.
 
HoseEmDown said:
Frost took a step down and took over for UCF because he couldn't get over the hump at Oregon. He thought he'd be the next Urban Meyer but was on his way to being Rich Rodriguez and left before the loses in big games continued. I mean they did continue as he lost to Michigan state and Ohio state in consecutive years.
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