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Minneapolis Police Chief Resigns, Locals want Mayor to do as well

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Minneapolis Female/Gay Police Chief resigned (4.5 yrs on the job after being applauded for being first openly gay city official) as pressure mounted over recent police shooting involving what many are calling a diversity hire of a Somali Muslim who built up a discipline record in just 18 months.

Minneapolis Female Mayor, even feeling pressure by this very liberal city to resign as well, replaced that female Police Chief with another female officer.

More and more libs in the city are getting tired of "diversity/political correctness" in hires/elections and now what the best person (shocked, could be a male) to take control of this situation (police Dept, Mayor office, etc...).
 
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This is what happens when you kill a white woman.
 
btbones said:
Lol . You aren't even a good troll
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As a fisherman is removing the catfish from his line after reeling him in, the catfish looks up and says, "'hey, you're a shitty fisherman!"
 
btbones said:
Lol . You aren't even a good troll
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Not troll-bait at all. It's actually a pretty fair comparison. Philando Castile gets shot and killed--even after complying with police--and no one is held accountable. Yet the moment a white woman suffers the same fate, all of a sudden heads start to roll and the city needs to "clean house."
 
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Jedi.Knight said:
Not troll-bait at all. It's actually a pretty fair comparison. Philando Castile gets shot and killed--even after complying with police--and no one is held accountable. Yet the moment a white woman suffers the same fate, all of a sudden heads start to roll and the city needs to "clean house."
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There was a full and complete jury trial of Jeronimo Yates. Taking him to trial is holding him accountable. That was a one-time, very quick situation that had a tragic outcome. Your assertion that Castile was complying was refuted by the jury that heard all of the available evidence and then acquitted him. There was no systemic issue in that case for heads to roll anywhere. Demanding someone get fired there is not warranted.

In this more recent case, there was a systemic refusal to take action after multiple incidents should have raised all kinds of warning flags. This is a systemic issue and warrants further action to those running the system.

But go ahead and feed a false racial narrative because that is what makes our culture great.
 
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Because juries have never been known to practice nullification. No sir! Never has happened in the US.

It is amazing how fast the system suddenly decides to work here, though.

The most important thing is that it is really sad the cop is being villified for doing his job. I also appreciate the OP's very scientific analysis here.

#bluelivesmatter
 
sk8knight said:
There was a full and complete jury trial of Jeronimo Yates. Taking him to trial is holding him accountable. That was a one-time, very quick situation that had a tragic outcome. Your assertion that Castile was complying was refuted by the jury that heard all of the available evidence and then acquitted him. There was no systemic issue in that case for heads to roll anywhere. Demanding someone get fired there is not warranted.

In this more recent case, there was a systemic refusal to take action after multiple incidents should have raised all kinds of warning flags. This is a systemic issue and warrants further action to those running the system.

But go ahead and feed a false racial narrative because that is what makes our culture great.
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The jury acquitted Yates because the rule of law allowed Yates to kill Castile if Yates felt in fear for his life, which was Yates' testimony. The fact that he did not follow procedure cost him his job and the police department quickly settled the wrongful death lawsuit against them because they knew full well Yates did not follow proper procedure. Yates was never actually in danger, but the fact that he felt he was allowed him to escape conviction. Same thing with the Tulsa cop.

But Castile wasn't a victim of Minneapolis PD, but rather a suburbs' PD.

This removal is really curious because there's a lot of this story that hasn't been made public.
 
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sk8knight said:
There was a full and complete jury trial of Jeronimo Yates. Taking him to trial is holding him accountable. That was a one-time, very quick situation that had a tragic outcome. Your assertion that Castile was complying was refuted by the jury that heard all of the available evidence and then acquitted him. There was no systemic issue in that case for heads to roll anywhere. Demanding someone get fired there is not warranted.

In this more recent case, there was a systemic refusal to take action after multiple incidents should have raised all kinds of warning flags. This is a systemic issue and warrants further action to those running the system.

But go ahead and feed a false racial narrative because that is what makes our culture great.
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You do know that O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony were also acquitted after jury trials, right? Just because someone is acquitted doesn't mean that they're not guilty ... just that the prosecution couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person is indeed guilty.

And as far as this false racial narrative you speak of, jurors heard audio of officer Yanez (not Yates BTW) telling Castile not to reach for his gun, then asking for his ID soon after that. Castile reached for his wallet to get his ID, and that's when Yanez fires seven shots into the car. What cop needs to fire seven shots at a guy from close range? A cop that's a trigger happy scared little POS, that's who. I've seen stormtroopers with better aim than that!
 
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cnewton157 said:
It is amazing how fast the system suddenly decides to work here, though.
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Sure does seem like more than a coincidence.

cnewton157 said:
The most important thing is that it is really sad the cop is being villified for doing his job.
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If we're talking about the cop in the case of the Australian woman, I would respectfully disagree somewhat. Officer Muhammed's partner, who was actually talking to the woman, had a better vantage point, and deemed her not to be a threat. Not only that, even he was appalled by the quick-to-the-trigger actions of his partner.

cnewton157 said:
#bluelivesmatter
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Most definitely. However, #makeblueaccountablewhentheyfucckup should also be a thing as well.
 
cnewton157 said:
Because juries have never been known to practice nullification. No sir! Never has happened in the US.

It is amazing how fast the system suddenly decides to work here, though.

The most important thing is that it is really sad the cop is being villified for doing his job. I also appreciate the OP's very scientific analysis here.

#bluelivesmatter
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It's disgusting how you constantly espouse subtle references to your hatred for police.

I just assume you have sworn to never dial 911 for any reason, yes?
 
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NinjaKnight said:
I personally don't hate them, it's a tough job, I just think a lot of them suck at it. They do have entirely too much power and protection though.

Also I can't think of a likely situation where I would call 911, and I hope my neighbors never do.
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My neighbors really appreciate our local police Dept and they and I are really glad you don't live on my block or neighborhood.

Can't imagine living anywhere or have neighbors that wouldn't want to dial 911 if needed.
 
NinjaKnight said:
I personally don't hate them, it's a tough job, I just think a lot of them suck at it. They do have entirely too much power and protection though.

Also I can't think of a likely situation where I would call 911, and I hope my neighbors never do.

http://wreg.com/2017/07/24/mbi-investigating-officer-involved-shooting-in-southaven/
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Do you think better pay , better training etc would help ? I do for sure . My niece is a deputy sheriff and really wants to do everything the right way . But she and her fiancé are forced to take every available overtime shift possible to make a decent living and I truly believe that ruins many good LEO's in the long run
 
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Do you think better pay , better training etc would help ? I do for sure . My niece is a deputy sheriff and really wants to do everything the right way . But she and her fiancé are forced to take every available overtime shift possible to make a decent living and I truly believe that ruins many good LEO's in the long run
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Training would absolutely help, but all the training in the world can't overcome basic human nature to abuse power, and that is the heart of the problem with our current set up.

I believe there should be a separate force who's only job is to police the police, a separation of powers. It could an extremely small force, all plainclothes and they only exist to ensure fair treatment and prosecution for unfair treatment.
 
NinjaKnight said:
Training would absolutely help, but all the training in the world can't overcome basic human nature to abuse power, and that is the heart of the problem with our current set up.

I believe there should be a separate force who's only job is to police the police, a separation of powers. It could an extremely small force, all plainclothes and they only exist to ensure fair treatment and prosecution for unfair treatment.
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i thought we kind of already had that with the fdle or whatever its called. do you think they need more funding?
 
City of Orlando is adding 17 new OPD Officers to my area. Should I be happy or scared? I need to be told whether I should be outraged.
 
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NinjaKnight said:
Training would absolutely help, but all the training in the world can't overcome basic human nature to abuse power, and that is the heart of the problem with our current set up.

I believe there should be a separate force who's only job is to police the police, a separation of powers. It could an extremely small force, all plainclothes and they only exist to ensure fair treatment and prosecution for unfair treatment.
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It's obvious that you have no idea what training police officers go through and what checks and balances exist with most police departments, nor how most police departments have evolved in their hiring patterns and policies over the last 10 years. Go beyond the sensationalized news stories and hollywood bullshit and research what is actually in place, what is being put in place, and maybe get to know a few officers to find out who these people that you constantly denigrate actually are. With that said, corruption will always be an issue at some places at some times, as it is in every government institution. But you, who argues against forming opinions on generalizations regularly, don't seem to mind generalizing about police without a second thought.

As for the second suggestion, there are many police departments that have that in place. The issue that I have is the use of "fair" and "unfair". What is your standard for that? Is your definition of "fair" to ensure that officers are treated to the same Constitutional protections to due process when being investigated after someone files a complaint or allegation while providing dedicated resources to collect as much evidence (both incriminating and exculpatory) as possible to attempt to reach the correct resolution? Or is your definition of "fair" to serve the public mood and assure that police officers are prosecuted based upon media and social narratives?
 
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sk8knight said:
It's obvious that you have no idea what training police officers go through and what checks and balances exist with most police departments, nor how most police departments have evolved in their hiring patterns and policies over the last 10 years. Go beyond the sensationalized news stories and hollywood bullshit and research what is actually in place, what is being put in place, and maybe get to know a few officers to find out who these people that you constantly denigrate actually are. With that said, corruption will always be an issue at some places at some times, as it is in every government institution. But you, who argues against forming opinions on generalizations regularly, don't seem to mind generalizing about police without a second thought.

As for the second suggestion, there are many police departments that have that in place. The issue that I have is the use of "fair" and "unfair". What is your standard for that? Is your definition of "fair" to ensure that officers are treated to the same Constitutional protections to due process when being investigated after someone files a complaint or allegation while providing dedicated resources to collect as much evidence (both incriminating and exculpatory) as possible to attempt to reach the correct resolution? Or is your definition of "fair" to serve the public mood and assure that police officers are prosecuted based upon media and social narratives?
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Way to;Dr. Probably wrong anyway
 
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i thought we kind of already had that with the fdle or whatever its called. do you think they need more funding?
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Should be a completely separate force, not a buddy buddy system with current cops giving each other an "investigation".

Should start off with charging the officers involved with the link I just posted with manslaughter and animal cruelty, maybe they will actually take the time to check the address before kicking down doors and murdering innocent people and pets.
 
CommuterBob said:
The jury acquitted Yates because the rule of law allowed Yates to kill Castile if Yates felt in fear for his life, which was Yates' testimony. The fact that he did not follow procedure cost him his job and the police department quickly settled the wrongful death lawsuit against them because they knew full well Yates did not follow proper procedure.
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Yep!

How many Americans knew that? So few. Why? Because the US media did not cover this. They acted like the police department was complicit. No. The second that jury ruling came in, the department fired him (they were prevented from doing so prior).

So few of us are interested in 'facts' any more. Yes, there is so much 'political correctness' it is sickening. But beyond the US media, there is the truth. We just have to be willing to seek and find it.

Yates' fate was sealed the moment he made the wrong move ... he just avoided jail because of the way the law is -- at least currently (and there's no ex-post facto in the US) -- written.
 
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