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My Concern: All these great WRs and Milton can't throw deep

His high school tape is full of him throwing deep and with touch. He just can't do that with a rush in his face every down. You mean he doesn't have the rifle arm to throw frozen ropes downfield, his mechanics are bad, and he's not quick enough to do his high school deep drop to buy time or to break off long broken field runs. In the spring, we'll learn if they've tweaked his throwing motion enough.
 
Agreed. We'll have the best WR core that no one will ever hear from if Milton stays our starter.
Only time will tell, but we will know very very soon. If he's not proving his arm strength and ability to throw deep in the first few games, he will be replaced
 
The season of being kind to upperclassmen is over. The Frost era recruits will be highly vetted and ALL positions now how the competition he desires. Be patient this year, the elusive QB and OL positions are the most fluid. Milton could wind up like Godfrey if he doesn't improve.
 
As much as this is true, I don't see why high rated WRs would continue to come here if they were truly worried about the QB situation. Either they have blind faith, or they know that Milton can improve and/or that Mack/Verdal will pan out and trust them.

Especially a kid like Williams who had a wealth of offers, there's no way he chooses us over those schools unless he has some faith that the QB/Oline situation works out.
 
As much as this is true, I don't see why high rated WRs would continue to come here if they were truly worried about the QB situation. Either they have blind faith, or they know that Milton can improve and/or that Mack/Verdal will pan out and trust them.

Especially a kid like Williams who had a wealth of offers, there's no way he chooses us over those schools unless he has some faith that the QB/Oline situation works out.
I am really wonder or pondering this. We had almost ZERO deep deep throws and we have no deep passing threat. MM just throws the ball up and prays (a little exaggeration here)
 
Just give it a chance to work out. UCF has turned in plenty of fine seasons with mediocre QBs- how many legit QB's have we had since 07? Hodges, Godfrey (sort of) and Bortles. We had plenty of good years without someone like Bortles.
 
As much as this is true, I don't see why high rated WRs would continue to come here if they were truly worried about the QB situation. Either they have blind faith, or they know that Milton can improve and/or that Mack/Verdal will pan out and trust them.

Especially a kid like Williams who had a wealth of offers, there's no way he chooses us over those schools unless he has some faith that the QB/Oline situation works out.
They have faith that our QB situation will get better or Frost will figure it out.
Most likely, at least a few haven't looked into this thoroughly enough.
 
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I am really wonder or pondering this. We had almost ZERO deep deep throws and we have no deep passing threat. MM just throws the ball up and prays (a little exaggeration here)
Had lots of deep ones when Milton began starting (game 3), but he and both lines got injured, scouts found our weakness, and we began the tough half of the conference schedule.
 
Do college coaches actually change the fundamental way a QB throws? Arm strength can't be taught either. Granted, a full offseason in the gym can help with that but I can't see how one off-season could totally overhaul his delivery.
 
Just for shoots and giggles, what do you see changing this year with 5'-10'' MM?

A full off season in the strength & conditioning program, time to work on mechanics every day, and hope for better offensive line play (due to additional time in strength and conditioning, and growth by OL that were on scout team last year.
 
Do college coaches actually change the fundamental way a QB throws? Arm strength can't be taught either. Granted, a full offseason in the gym can help with that but I can't see how one off-season could totally overhaul his delivery.
If he had a non publicized shoulder injury last season, a decent improvement should be expected. If his throwing issues had other causes, his selectivity may improve but his delivery likely wont.
 
The kid can throw deep enough, He was throwing while back peddling most of the year. He doesn't need a cannon, just decent arm to do what is needed. I worry much more about Oline than qb.
 
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Last season we had one kid recruited (Milton) that fit his system (ignoring Patti who was on his way out). Now we have 3 QBs that Frost has recruited. He will have his long term starter by the end of this season. We need to be patient and believe that Frost will know when the next QB in line is ready to play if Milton doesn't improve.
 
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He can improve his arm strength somewhat with weight training, but mostly with his mechanics
 
Do college coaches actually change the fundamental way a QB throws? Arm strength can't be taught either. Granted, a full offseason in the gym can help with that but I can't see how one off-season could totally overhaul his delivery.
Looking at our receivers' videos, I couldn't help but notice all the pathetic QBs: really slow release, bad footwork, throwing off the back foot, and slow-motion throws that took forever to arrive. Those are things they can work on as well as not staring down receivers, working through their progressions, not rushing the throw, forcing the ball, or pulling it down to run, waiting for a receiver to come open, reading blitzes, zones and disguised coverages, improvising on broken plays.

When Blake was drafted, he had to make all kinds of improvements to his through mechanics, release, stride, and footwork because NFL defenders are so much better. Same with jump from prep to college.
 
The fact that no freshman QB was able to enroll early gives Milton an obvious big leg up in the competition to be the starter out of the gates. I'm hoping he takes a leap forward along with the rest of the offense because it's the only plausible way we win a few more games than we did in 2016. He had a lot on his plate, far from home, nicked up a bit, suspect surrounding cast. He'll be better. Just hope he can stay healthy.
 
Bortles didn't even see the field his true freshman year. When he did play, he had a better OL than MM has had so far.
 
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And this is exactly what I'm talking about. Kids who never played football before commenting on...football.
He had no line, he had very little time to throw and was a freshman. Give it a rest.
On a message board, you expect everyone who never played to not make comments or posts?????????????
You may have to get off the computer and give yourself a rest
 
On a message board, you expect everyone who never played to not make comments or posts?????????????
You may have to get off the computer and give yourself a rest
Totally agree. Just because I'm not a coach, I'm a blind idiot??

I watched nearly every snap of every game this year, and my VISION tells me that WHEN HE HAD TIME TO THROW. (and there were many), he was often very inaccurate. This was the same on easy bubble screen passes where time to throw basically isn't even an issue and is a basic pass that is usually easily made by a what is supposed to be a promising freshman division-1 college QB
 
Totally agree. Just because I'm not a coach, I'm a blind idiot??

I watched nearly every snap of every game this year, and my VISION tells me that WHEN HE HAD TIME TO THROW. (and there were many), he was often very inaccurate. This was the same on easy bubble screen passes where time to throw basically isn't even an issue and is a basic pass that is usually easily made by a what is supposed to be a promising freshman division-1 college QB
fair enough but when a QB starts taking constant physical punishment it does have a way of effecting accuracy on what to a fan looks like the simplest pass, usually their internal clock gets all screwed up.

It can even happen at the NFL level, see Cam Newton this season
 
fair enough but when a QB starts taking constant physical punishment it does have a way of effecting accuracy on what to a fan looks like the simplest pass, usually their internal clock gets all screwed up.

It can even happen at the NFL level, see Cam Newton this season
If you are saying that all the pounding and rushed passes possibly made him kind of gun-shy, I agree. We will know for sure early next year.
 
Mack has the raw tools to be a great one, MM was ok early in year with 0 experience, and less than ok late in season while banged up and no Oline. I still think we have one more growing year ahead before becoming really good, and yes I think we will be really good. 7-5 to 8-4 regular season, and hopefully a bowl win on top.
 
If you are saying that all the pounding and rushed passes possibly made him kind of gun-shy, I agree. We will know for sure early next year.
Yeah, he did take a beating. True. Much different than High School. Well, hopefully he bulks up and turns this thing around! :) ...........and we block for the poor guy!
 
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