N Korea fires ICMB
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Pretty much stuck a middle finger up at China as much as Japan, South Korea and the US. We gave them a 'pause' to come to the negotiation table, and they literally stuck the finger up. This has nothing to do with Trump, but everything the State Department has been working towards.
We'll see what Rex Tillerson comes up with. I know the media loves to lambast him, but he's gotten more sanctions passed on North Korea in 9 months than all other administrations over the prior 22 years of this mess.
If he can get China to finally press the 'financial meltdown threat button' on North Korea, at least close to what the US did on the UK during the Suez Incident of 1956 (talk about balls, Einsenhower had some), North Korea will come back to the table.
If not then it's clear China is using this affair to its own gain, instead of world peace. It's as simple as that. The US threatens its allies when it needs to force them to do right. China is not interested in such. That's what a superpower does ... even if it doesn't like to do it.
We'll see what Rex Tillerson comes up with. I know the media loves to lambast him, but he's gotten more sanctions passed on North Korea in 9 months than all other administrations over the prior 22 years of this mess.
If he can get China to finally press the 'financial meltdown threat button' on North Korea, at least close to what the US did on the UK during the Suez Incident of 1956 (talk about balls, Einsenhower had some), North Korea will come back to the table.
If not then it's clear China is using this affair to its own gain, instead of world peace. It's as simple as that. The US threatens its allies when it needs to force them to do right. China is not interested in such. That's what a superpower does ... even if it doesn't like to do it.
It's Han
It's Hannity's schtick. You could do the exact same thing with Maddow in the opposite direction.
It wasn’t just Hannity though—basically ALL of Fox News was stating that. I think Geraldo came in his pants as he expressed his pride for Trump.
But you've expressed on many occasions that Fox News is worthless entertainment. So what does it matter?
And all of MSNBC was condemning it- mere months after going into hysterics about how Trump only wants to wage war with North Korean.
See how this goes? They both do their pathetic flip flops depending on what their viewers want to hear. The difference is that righties don't use MSNBC in every goddamn argument like liberals do with Fox News.
Fox News is biased. HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS!!! Joe is breaking barriers with this news.
When have I done that?
edit: I was interested in that and prior to this week, I haven't posted about Fox News since December 2016.
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I do not contest that CNN and MSNBC do the exact same thing. Again, my point was only that it wasn't limited just to Hannity.
Leading up to the election. I'm lumping you in with the other poster's that shared similar positions, of course. I seem to remember you stating that point, but if I've unfairly characterized you, then I apologize for that.
Yeah, even in the pre-election posts I don't really go off on Fox. I watch it from time to time along with the BBC and CNN because I like to see/hear other points of view.
Agreed. Both of them double-speak.
But there were a lot Obama bashers who chastized him for even suggesting it.
At the same time, Obama's Secretaries of States were total pussies.
And when I say "pussies," I do not mean that in a "war" context.
I mean that in what needs to be done to an aggressor that expects appeasement.
Rex Tillerson got both the Chinese and Russians on-board.
Both the Chinese and Russians repeatedly praised Rex Tillerson.
So, as much as I 100% agree that the right is being completely hypocritical praising Trump on meeting North Korea after bashing Obama ...
There is a huge difference of the 'state' of 'North Korea' between Obama (or even W. ... or even Clinton by 1999, for that matter) and Trump (+Tillerson).
