Nebraska Article on Frost...he loves Jeopardy

[KnightVision82]

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/shatel...cle_13286ab3-dc74-595f-a88e-9c4e92f0b2f9.html

Really good article with insights about what we can expect from new head coach.

Does anybody know which ex-UCF players stayed on staff? From this article, I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps just about all of them.

 

[muckdawg24]

Travis Fisher seems to be hitting the pavement, along with Kevin Smith.

 

[UCFProud]

Not sure if I like the parts in that article about how the AAC doesn't have high expectations but they do mention our BCS bowl win over Baylor as an achievement we have had recently. I guess that win isn't as irrelevant as some other-that-shall-not-be-named program's fans have tried to make hay over.

Still a good read.

Thanks for the link!

 

[KnightVision82]

Thanks.

So do you believe this article is implying that Scott would rather coach at UCF and stay for a long time rather than take a better (Power 5) HC position where he could be gone in three years?

 

[KnightVision82]

Travis Fisher seems to be hitting the pavement, along with Kevin Smith.

Sean Beckton and Josh Linam too.

 

[UCFProud]

I took it to mean that this conference and our team is a good HC job to start out with so you can have some room to work out the new to the job HC kinks and not get buried after not doing to well. In another words, since the AAC "doesn't have high expectations " (eyeroll) he can survive a down few years and still be able to continue HC elsewhere. If he were to jump into a "high expectations" P5 HC job and flounder it would be harder to still coach anywhere else.

Not saying I agree with it, especially since it takes certain liberties with how some ego-driven, "you can't play with our toys" people view the whole college football industry.

 

[MechaKnight]

Good article for insight into Scott Frost, but it's a little condescending toward UCF. We don't have Nebraska's attendance or a realistic path to a national title, but that doesn't mean we have low expectations. Both programs want to compete for conference championships and NY6 bowls.

 

[Central Floridave]

Interesting article. Agreed with comment on "low expectations". We didn't win the conference for the first time in 3 years and got rid of the coach. We expect to win conference championships just like anyone else...Well, maybe not Duh*Bulls. They are happy being ranked #2 for a week and living off that one. But whatever, slanted towards Nebraska fans obviously.

 

[Knight_Light]

Nebraska has some of the richest history in all of college football but even their program hasn't won a conf title since 1999.

 

[Poolside Knight]

Thanks.

So do you believe this article is implying that Scott would rather coach at UCF and stay for a long time rather than take a better (Power 5) HC position where he could be gone in three years?

why worry about that now? UCF has to string off a division or conference title for that to be a problem & who knows how he feels if/when that time comes. He could end up loving living in Orlando and becomes very picky about moving on, he does love Golf.

Just about everyone in the college football national media expected Tom Herman to bolt Houston this year.

 

[KnightVision82]

I ignored the comments from Nebraska point of view about our program because we know that's to be expected. To me I was trying to read in between the lines to see what makes this a great fit for Frost. He's seen some coaches go to big programs and flame out quickly. If this gig works out well, it might be hard for him to run away quickly because he's not just looking for next paycheck. He wants to be a head coach for a long time and have access to fast athletes. We might have a shot of keeping him for 8-10 years. No matter what, our next hire will benefit from the recruiting work he is doing now because UCF will be on the lips of high school players.

 

[SCKnight]

I hope he is so popular that every program in the country is after him. That means we are kicking butt. He is too young to stay put here. I just hope he brings some other brilliant offensive coordinator along for the ride.

 

[UCF08]

Thanks.

So do you believe this article is implying that Scott would rather coach at UCF and stay for a long time rather than take a better (Power 5) HC position where he could be gone in three years?

I think it depends on his ultimate goals. If he wants the job at Nebraska, then he'll probably wait for that to open or possibly another truly top tier program to offer him, and won't jump ship at just any P5 offer. Quite frankly, there are a lot of P5 programs which, while they might pay better than UCF (not as much more as you'd probably think), are worse overall situations for Frost than UCF. He's in Florida, he's making connections to HS coaches in an area that he will always want recruits from, and he's at a team who can win the conference without having to beat any 800lb gorillas like Bama, FSU,Oregon, OSU, Clemson, OU, etc.

I think you're starting to see more coaches look at the long term aspect of their careers and take that into account. Houston kept Herman from South Carolina, and while I have nothing but love for the Gamecocks due to their willingness to come play us here, I think it was a smart move for him if he ultimately wants a top tier coaching gig. Turning around an SEC program is nearly impossible, and if he doesn't do it in three years, that could hurt his chances at getting the Texas or OSU job if it were to open. It's better for him to keep winning at Houston.

 

[SCKnight]

Thanks.

So do you believe this article is implying that Scott would rather coach at UCF and stay for a long time rather than take a better (Power 5) HC position where he could be gone in three years?

All of these guys are uber-competitive and ego driven. He has a goal of coaching at a higher level you can bet on it. But UCF is a great stop where he can take his time and grow his experience. He will need to be successful here to parlay that into a bigger job offer.

 

[UCF08]

All of these guys are uber-competitive and ego driven. He has a goal of coaching at a higher level you can bet on it. But UCF is a great stop where he can take his time and grow his experience. He will need to be successful here to parlay that into a bigger job offer.

More importantly, if your goal is to coach at one of the premier positions, you have to be wary of just jumping at an open position even if it is ostensibly 'better'.

 

[Poolside Knight]

Don't worry about it. Superstar AD White has a plan

 

[Guinness_Knight]

IMO, best case scenario is he does well here and grooms a great OC. If he leaves, his OC takes over. Rinse & repeat.

Easier said than done.

 

[EngAlum98]

If the AAC wants to compete with the P5, we need to pay like the P5 and not expect coaches to bolt for a lateral move. Yes, there are some dream coaching positions (Alabama, OSU, Texas, S.Cal) that we wouldn't be able to compete against much like the rest of the P5 can't. But, we need to have a clause in the HC contract that gives us the chance to match to keep good coaches from leaving.

 

[firm_bizzle]

I'm not sold that he would go back to Nebraska. Getting nearby athletes is key for him.

 

[MechaKnight]

But, we need to have a clause in the HC contract that gives us the chance to match to keep good coaches from leaving.

Nothing says we can't try to match P5 offers, but money isn't everything. If you're saying we should have a clause that prohibits a coach from leaving then no up and coming coach would agree to come here. We wouldn't want to force someone to stay against their will anyway. Remember when June Jones tried to leave SMU but Arizona State ended up hiring someone else? Then SMU had a couple awkward years where June clearly didn't want to be there and was taking vacations instead of recruiting in the offseason.

 

[KnightedHusker]

What's exciting is UCF got a great up and coming coach. Everything else is noise or speculation.

 

[KnightedHusker]

I took it to mean that this conference and our team is a good HC job to start out with so you can have some room to work out the new to the job HC kinks and not get buried after not doing to well. In another words, since the AAC "doesn't have high expectations " (eyeroll) he can survive a down few years and still be able to continue HC elsewhere. If he were to jump into a "high expectations" P5 HC job and flounder it would be harder to still coach anywhere else.

Not saying I agree with it, especially since it takes certain liberties with how some ego-driven, "you can't play with our toys" people view the whole college football industry.

I'm not sure if the expectations are P5 Bowls, fan expectations or imagined.

All HC jobs come with a big bucket of stress.

That being said, Nebraska just fired a coach who in 7 years never won less than 9 games. Yowsa.

 

[UCF08]

I'm not sure if the expectations are P5 Bowls, fan expectations or imagined.

All HC jobs come with a big bucket of stress.

That being said, Nebraska just fired a coach who in 7 years never won less than 9 games. Yowsa.

What I've gathered elsewhere from Nebraska fans was that he was also just an all-around dick to the fans and no one liked him. Basically, they were looking for a reason to get rid of him, and he didn't win quite enough of the important games to guarantee his job despite the fact he wasn't liked.

 

[KnightedHusker]

What I've gathered elsewhere from Nebraska fans was that he was also just an all-around dick to the fans and no one liked him. Basically, they were looking for a reason to get rid of him, and he didn't win quite enough of the important games to guarantee his job despite the fact he wasn't liked.

He was not the way most Nebraskans see themselves - hardworking, respectful and decent to others. He was not the type of person that fit that culture.

Tom Osborne is the stoic standard on that. He once lost his temper in a game and yelled out, 'dad-gummit,' which was a major explosion for him.