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Of course it was a mistake. Trump doesn't have many opportunities to change the race.
-Who chose not to debate?
-Who refused to release his test results so that there could be a safe debate?
-Who showed up to the last debate late and shedding virus?
-Who chose not to debate?
-Who refused to release his test results so that there could be a safe debate?
-Who showed up to the last debate late and shedding virus?
Trump showed up at the first debate with a building COVID infection, didn't follow the pre-debate testing rules, and refused to share when his last negative test was, while most of Trump's guests ignored the mask rule at the debate. And Trump didn't exactly follow the debate rules either.
So I don't see where Trump is in a position to criticize rule changes when his side repeatedly didn't follow the ones that were already in place.
Regardless how you choose to spin this it a missed opportunity for Trump. He continues to have unforced errors. Particularly squandering his campaign war chest and now is losing the funding battle. He’s forced to waste funding in states he should have locked up by now and he’s floundering this campaign. Leadership matters
Iowa is a swing state so it makes sense to spend time there. Biden has been visiting Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. Does that show desperation?
Well let's see. Democrats won Iowa in 88, 92, 96, 00, 08, and 12. Republicans won it in 04 and 16.
You're right, Iowa isn't a swing state, its a blue state.
Trump kicked Hillary's butt in Iowa in 2016. Clinton's performance in Iowa was the worst performance for a Democrat since 1980.
Trump won over a dozen counties that hadn't voted Republican since Ronald Reagan was on the ticket, won 2 counties that had last voted Republican in Nixon's landslide victory in 1972, and won a county (Dubuque) that had last voted Republican in 1956.
Trump carried Iowa by the largest margin of any Republican candidate since Ronald Reagan in 1980, and was the first Republican to win more than 50% of the popular vote since Reagan's 1984 landslide. The difference of 9.4% points was the largest winning margin for Trump in a state that had voted for Obama four years earlier. He carried 93 out of 99 counties, the most for a Republican presidential nominee since 1980, and flipped 32 counties won by Obama in 2012, the most of any state.
Seems to me that another big Trump win in Iowa should be as much of a "sure thing" as it gets.
And one election makes it not a swing state? I guess that means Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan are also not swing states.
How many electoral votes does Iowa have? 6? Trump is desperate (I hope). Not taking anything for granted ‘‘tis time.
Wisconsin: 10, Pennsylvania: 20, Michigan: 16. (All red in 2016)
Iowa: 6 (red in 2016)
Yeah your right. Trump is in good shape
Trump won Iowa handily in 2016 and is back again in 2020. One would assume it's firmly in the Trump camp.
But then again, I suppose the same should be said this year about 2016 Trump "red states" Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. If they're 'swing' states now, it's pretty clear the Trump campaign is playing defense.
Hehehe...yeah, you're right. Clearly, Trump is on the verge of reelection, baby!!!!!
You think that isnt possible?Hehehe...yeah, you're right. Clearly, Trump is on the verge of reelection, baby!!!!!
Trump being elected last time was considered nearly impossible. Dismiss it all you want, but its still 50/50 on who wins.You think it IS??!?
Keep rubbing that's rabbit's foot.
538 had Clinton at around 90% to win the EC. I think 50/50 is the only reasonable odds to give the candidates this time around. The popular vote will likely be something between 51-48 and 50.5-49, most likely favoring Biden. Trump will either win every state he won last time plus Minnesota and Nevada, or lose in a historically unprecedented loss (worse than Carter). One seems more likely than the other.
Yeah, cross your fingers and hold on to that hope.
This election is significantly different in many ways than 2016. Hoping upon hope that a similar 2020 upset is in the cards is nothing more than wishful thinking at this point.
Good luck with that.
Clinton had a heck of a lot more enthusiasm than Biden does. In that way, yes it is significantly different.
Whatever you want to say to convince yourself if fine by me. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Trump's general election loss.
The only suspense about the election is whether Trump loses gracefully or plays the "it was voter fraud" card.
Trump is fighting an uphill battle. I don't buy the polls saying Biden by 12 to 14, but it is Biden's race to lose.
Clinton's popular vote polls were 48 to 45
The election was 48 - 46
Trump closed in swing states late because of the Comey letter.
This election polls are much wider and 16 million people have already cast their votes. Democrats shouldn't consider this in the bag because we need to bury Trump by 10% to wake the republican party up to the fact that trumpism is cancer.
The election was 48 - 46
Trump closed in swing states late because of the Comey letter.
This election polls are much wider and 16 million people have already cast their votes. Democrats shouldn't consider this in the bag because we need to bury Trump by 10% to wake the republican party up to the fact that trumpism is cancer.
Plus Hillary's high negatives and the aura of Trump growing into the job was still there.
Given the level of sheer incompetence and corruption we've seen in this administration, it still boggles my mind that Trump has as much support as the polls say he has. I keep thinking that Americans can't be this stupid.
This morning on Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said he's asked this question to his friends who are staunch Republicans. He said most of them understand that Trump has been a shitty president BUT they still plan to vote for him again because they're grown so partisan that they are more scared of the alternative.
Socialists--ACK!!! Political Correctness--ACK!!! Wokeness--ACK!!! My God, please give us Trump again!
If this board is any indication, Scarborough nailed it.
This morning on Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said he's asked this question to his friends who are staunch Republicans. He said most of them understand that Trump has been a shitty president BUT they still plan to vote for him again because they're grown so partisan that they are more scared of the alternative.
Socialists--ACK!!! Political Correctness--ACK!!! Wokeness--ACK!!! My God, please give us Trump again!
If this board is any indication, Scarborough nailed it.
I really believe a large part of it is the desire to just piss off the other team. Many take pleasure in just getting others upset and have no interest or understanding of the politics and/or implications. Many of these people waving big Trump flags and sinking boats just want to trigger others...
538's Snake Chart is pretty cool for this. Iowa is a swing state in the context that it's absolutely in play for both candidates right now. But demographically, if Iowa is in play, Trump has very little chance at winning. It's basically the 6th state on Trump's side of the 270 he needs. The equivalent state on Biden's side would be Colorado. If Trump were in Biden's polling position (up 10% nationally), then he's probably leading in Iowa by 12-14% and Colorado is polling even.
If Trump wins the election, he should win Iowa handily (like he did last time). If it's competitive, he's got a pretty big hill to climb.
People don't want to talk about Trump's secret plan to win. Not certifying the results of a few states so nobody gets to 270. Then the election goes to the house.
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