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it could end up being longer , that is the current info they have from the trials
Good reason to stop wearing your mask after being vaccinated. Each time you are exposed to the virus it restarts the clock on your antibodies. It's important to keep being exposed to germs that you can easily fight off.
Well, being between the ages of 5 and 45 last 40 years. Unless someone has particular health issues, they shouldn’t need a vaccine for what will show up as a common cold if it shows up at all. Man, imagine if the narrative for Covid from the government was:
Hey Citizens,
There is a coronavirus outbreak that could be dangerous for the elderly and those with certain health conditions. For the most part, people under 55 are generally safe from the virus but we should take some precautions to protect the elderly and vulnerable. We will work on a vaccine to protect them, in the mean time live your life as normal whilst this virus works it’s way through the population. Take vitamin d and C. Be smart. We won’t be assuming every death where someone tests positive for the virus is necessarily a death from the virus. Don’t wear masks because the virus is a thousand times smaller than the wholes in the mask. This came from a lab in Wuhan that we financially supported and thus we have sacked Fauci(a person you have never had reason to hear from, but is basically a politician with a medical degree). The end.
Hey Citizens,
There is a coronavirus outbreak that could be dangerous for the elderly and those with certain health conditions. For the most part, people under 55 are generally safe from the virus but we should take some precautions to protect the elderly and vulnerable. We will work on a vaccine to protect them, in the mean time live your life as normal whilst this virus works it’s way through the population. Take vitamin d and C. Be smart. We won’t be assuming every death where someone tests positive for the virus is necessarily a death from the virus. Don’t wear masks because the virus is a thousand times smaller than the wholes in the mask. This came from a lab in Wuhan that we financially supported and thus we have sacked Fauci(a person you have never had reason to hear from, but is basically a politician with a medical degree). The end.
It's true. Part of a healthy immune system is being continually exposed to common germs because that's what keeps your immunity current. This isn't rocket science, is basic immunology and it's why old people in a controlled environment like a rest home have more trouble when being exposed to something like the flu.Thanks for the advice, Doctor Crazyhole!
I think you’re referring to the information Trump got from Fauci that he passed on. If we had kept that path we would be In the same place we would be now, except the economy would have stayed open, the media wouldn’t have had the ammunition to scare so many into submission, a whole lot less suicides, drug overdoses, depression, higher blood pressure, loss of jobs, etc.
There were plenty of intelligent ivy league educated immunologist and virologist that suggested we allow people to live their life while protecting the vulnerable. Fauci and the pandemic team just had more power, so that’s the story we got. The people behind the Great Barrington Declaration were no intellectual slouches. The media did a good job in shutting down that side of the conversation with willful misinterpretations or just ignoring them. Not that it matters anymore, the damage is already done.
Yeah boy, the US economy would have been rolling along despite the pandemic by golly! 🙄
better said could you imagine the US attempting to solve Car Accident deaths or heart related deaths in the same fashion we've tried to solve COVID?
I could be WAY off-base, but I don't think fatal car accidents or heart-related deaths are highly contagious. 🙄
People have been apprehended and ticketed for sitting alone on a beach and for body surfing alone in the ocean. That's the level of common sense that some people use.
I would agree that's pretty dumb. But for every anal Barney Fife display of "following the letter of the law," there were -- and still are -- countless examples of people willfully ignoring mask and social distancing protocols.
At a time when we SHOULD, by all rights, be on the tailend of this damn pandemic, we are still witnessing increased hospitalizations across the country. That's just ridiculous.
We're on our way to getting most people vaccinated to achieve the herd immunity you talked about last year.
some of the shit posting in the Cooler the last few days has me being ok with a server crash
I'm just trying to understand your thought process here. Why, with so many people already having been infected and 100 million people being vaccinated do we see increased hospitalizations? You have to admit that this seems odd, don't you?
I mean, we probably wouldn’t have had an artificial depression like we have now. That is if states didn’t shut down the way they did. We also probably wouldn’t have to spend trillions on a self made depression
President Biden asked everybody to wear masks and social distance for his first 100 days in office.
But you know the old saying: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Chuds are gonna chud.
Everyone needs to stop being 'shocked' here.
This is just reality that has been long detailed in various journals. It makes total sense, and it's not any 'conspiracy theory' either. Although some are questioning the forthcoming 'price hikes' that will come fall, and definitely by 2022. And many are already trying to demonize the Trump administration for them, when the answer is far more complex.
Annual vaccination against coronaviruses should be expected, even more so than influenza. And it will be in the fall before winter, when coronaviruses spread the fastest, just like influenza. This is not news. And everyone needs to stop with the 3rd grader "T marks the time." Of course it's longer! But how effective is it at those extended periods?
This is where the mRNA v. Adenovirus differences may show up. mRNA is more effective, and more immediate, within 2 weeks of shot #2. Adenovirus is less effective, and takes a media of 57 days to reach peak antibodies. The bigger question has been how well they work long-term.
Adenoviruses have the biggest gains to be made, but they also have a number or risks, including building up a resistance to the adenovirus itself, if someone doesn't have one already, defeating their purpose. In some adenovirus implementations, such as Truvada for prep, it's a far more period oral dosage.
The early 94-95% efficacy of 2 shot mRNA, with 99%+ against serious illness, taper off after 2 months. Then they plunge after 4 months, becoming poor at 6 months, and that's at the original standard purity. As not only yields and standards improve with mRNA vaccines, and they learn more, it should improve. This is where Moderna is at.
Hence why we're still really looking at annual vaccines, at least early on, and it's really a no brainer why. Get the shot in the fall, you're protected until spring ... so adding +3 months until summer really won't matter. Why? It's not being spread in the summer much at all, or in climate that have more summer, let alone dry, weather.
That's just how corornaviruses work, little different than influenzas in this regard, although they usually spread far better, faster. Which is why the best time to visit grandma and grandpa with the kids has been, and will continue to be, summer, even though their vaccines may be reduced, and will definitely be so when they get re-vaccinated this fall. It's kinda more than just coincidence why our school years work the way they do, and for a number of factors ... from harvests to health.
This is just reality that has been long detailed in various journals. It makes total sense, and it's not any 'conspiracy theory' either. Although some are questioning the forthcoming 'price hikes' that will come fall, and definitely by 2022. And many are already trying to demonize the Trump administration for them, when the answer is far more complex.
Annual vaccination against coronaviruses should be expected, even more so than influenza. And it will be in the fall before winter, when coronaviruses spread the fastest, just like influenza. This is not news. And everyone needs to stop with the 3rd grader "T marks the time." Of course it's longer! But how effective is it at those extended periods?
This is where the mRNA v. Adenovirus differences may show up. mRNA is more effective, and more immediate, within 2 weeks of shot #2. Adenovirus is less effective, and takes a media of 57 days to reach peak antibodies. The bigger question has been how well they work long-term.
Adenoviruses have the biggest gains to be made, but they also have a number or risks, including building up a resistance to the adenovirus itself, if someone doesn't have one already, defeating their purpose. In some adenovirus implementations, such as Truvada for prep, it's a far more period oral dosage.
The early 94-95% efficacy of 2 shot mRNA, with 99%+ against serious illness, taper off after 2 months. Then they plunge after 4 months, becoming poor at 6 months, and that's at the original standard purity. As not only yields and standards improve with mRNA vaccines, and they learn more, it should improve. This is where Moderna is at.
Hence why we're still really looking at annual vaccines, at least early on, and it's really a no brainer why. Get the shot in the fall, you're protected until spring ... so adding +3 months until summer really won't matter. Why? It's not being spread in the summer much at all, or in climate that have more summer, let alone dry, weather.
That's just how corornaviruses work, little different than influenzas in this regard, although they usually spread far better, faster. Which is why the best time to visit grandma and grandpa with the kids has been, and will continue to be, summer, even though their vaccines may be reduced, and will definitely be so when they get re-vaccinated this fall. It's kinda more than just coincidence why our school years work the way they do, and for a number of factors ... from harvests to health.
Is the attenuated virus less effective or is it that the trails of the mRNA didn’t have to deal with the later variants of the disease?
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