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Let me guess: this must be ANOTHER one of your Aggrieved White Guy rants, amiright. 
Funny how our resident ‘conservatives’ are so put off by the advertising campaigns of private businesses. What the hell happened to ‘let the free market rule!’?
Funny how our resident ‘conservatives’ are so put off by the advertising campaigns of private businesses. What the hell happened to ‘let the free market rule!’?
Gotta see race in everything, don't you?Let me guess: this must be ANOTHER one of your Aggrieved White Guy rants, amiright.
Funny how our resident ‘conservatives’ are so put off by the advertising campaigns of private businesses. What the hell happened to ‘let the free market rule!’?
Race? I thought KNIGHTTIME was lamenting the fact he wasn't gonna see his super hot-n-sexy Victoria Secret models in their latest ads. There's no end to the list of 'insults' that an aggrieved white male experiences in today's world.
Laugh away. I'm pretty sure the company doesn't conduct extensive market research and make a whole bunch of ads to LOSE money.
Excuse me, WHO is the one blasting Victoria Secret's freedom of speech here?
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Yeah, I want to see some guy dressed like a girl with boobs because of estrogen shots and his junk showing thru his/her/its tiny panties...
I'm going to go WAY OUT ON A LIMB here and guess that you are not the company's target demographic, goodknightfl.
His "White Conservative" world is changing. He feels like he's loosing control and his inadequacies are being revealed. He believes he must point out all these as injustices so it lines up with his viewpoint of losing his culture and power. Small man disease....without getting to graphic....Let me guess: this must be ANOTHER one of your Aggrieved White Guy rants, amiright.
Funny how our resident ‘conservatives’ are so put off by the advertising campaigns of private businesses. What the hell happened to ‘let the free market rule!’?
They all do.
Trumpism was the last gasp. Fire all the cannons. Its finally over, and they lost. Time for the U.S.A. to finally evolve past the 1950s.
Here's a thought: maybe, just maybe, the definition of attractive models is changing.
Yeah, Victoria's Secret is going into this ad campaign blind.
The race I was referring to was YOURS: the aggrieved white guy. Based on your OP, it sure as heck looks like you've got a sexism thing going for you too.
This! ^^^^^^^^^^^ 👍
In recent years, the 'Aggrieved White Male' has become a thing in our society because of what some white guys -- you know, put-upon guys like you -- have complained about a whole laundry list of things.
Your OP and subsequent comments here are a perfect example of it.
H&M has recently started a campaign targeting full figured women of color. Probably smart for them because it opens up two new segments beyond the skinny white chick demo they’ve traditionally held.
Ooooooohhhhh...
We got a "race card" an "I have black friends" and "lefties are actually the most racist" in the same post!!! TRIFECTA!!!!!
JACKPOT!
They have every right to do it but I have to wonder if this isn’t just virtue signaling for PR purposes. I would think their demos are men that want to buy something sexy for their wives and women that want to look sexy for their spouses. Granted everyone knows what Victoria’s Secret is now but we don’t keep it in our minds. The ads trigger buy responses, as do the shows. I think seeing trans and alt models exclusively runs a pretty big risk of not only not triggering that buy emotion but also alienating a portion of their customer base.
The company is responded to a drop in sales due to a push-back from women (you know, the ones who wear their lingerie) about the narrow range of body type their ads highlighted (similar to the Barbie controversy.) In December, 2020, the brand had a 19% market share in US women's apparel, down from 32% in 2015.
The shift is less about KNIGHTTIME's hype about trans and---gasp---"women who LOOK like MEN," and more about highlighting women of all shapes and sizes.
Misleading? Yes, L Brands owns Victoria's Secret but my facts came from a CNN story about Victoria's Secret.
Victoria's Secret is overhauling its image. Is it enough to regain relevance?
It's out with the "Angels" and in with the VS Collective, as the lingerie label turns to soccer star Megan Rapinoe and actress Priyanka Chopra Jonas in a major rebranding effort.
edition.cnn.com
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You start a thread asking questions about why a company would do such an outrageous thing as feature a professional soccer player who "looks like a man" and then dismiss as 'fake news' any attempts to seriously address the questions you posed.
You've made it crystal clear you were never really interested in answers. You just want to bitch like an aggrieved white guy.
This part I agree with.
This is one of the primary symptoms of The Aggrieved White Guy Syndrome: You can't fathom how anyone could possibly view things differently than you do.
In the World According to KNIGHTTIME, you're the unchallenged arbitrar of all that's right, good, and attractive in this world.
Maybe this is Victoria's secret. Now, the models are packing?
I have no idea what demographic they are trying to get.I'm going to go WAY OUT ON A LIMB here and guess that you are not the company's target demographic, goodknightfl.
You’re dumb.
Nobody is saying they shouldn’t be allowed to do this. He’s saying it’s a dumb decision, which it is.
You can think Rapinoe will sell more bras if you want, but that brand has been built on sex appeal. I’m sure some people think Rapinoe is sexy, but that’s not a broad opinion.
I’m not the one blowharding that “this generation don’t know sex appeal” as if it was invented for you back when you were a testosterone-jacked boy.
Well, if you’ve followed the thread then you know Victoria’s Secret has been losing its market with its traditional ‘angels’ campaign so something has happened to their tried-and-true schtick. But who knows? Maybe you’re right and it will turn out to be a dumb decision. But my guess is the the people behind it know a hell of a lot more about what will sell with today’s young people than you or goodknightfl.
Let me help you out a little bit. You’re using these things called quotation marks. They look like this: “”.I’m not the one blowharding that “this generation don’t know sex appeal” as if it was invented for you back when you were a testosterone-jacked boy.
Well, if you’ve followed the thread then you know Victoria’s Secret has been losing its market with its traditional ‘angels’ campaign so something has happened to their tried-and-true schtick. But who knows? Maybe you’re right and it will turn out to be a dumb decision. But my guess is the the people behind it know a hell of a lot more about what will sell with today’s young people than you or goodknightfl.
But the problem is, you don’t seem to know what they’re used for. They’re supposed to be used to directly quote something someone else said. In this case, supposedly that’s something I said, but I never did.
And you can think that the models are the problem with declining sales, but only if you’re an idiot.
Someone who has some experience with this sort of thing might suggest that declining sales are more due to the fact that almost all of their stores have been in malls, which nobody goes to anymore. But sure, uglier models will make their sales skyrocket.
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Okay, I'll agree with you here.
Like in the other thread, you're actually talking about addressing inequalities with race.
He's just seeing 'race' as 'wrong' in some discussions, but not others ... hypocritically.
That's pretty much the #1 reason why I cannot stand Progressives.
We cannot address inequalities on race, until we look at all the factors.
But yes, modeling and Hollywood are the most pro-man, pro-white industries.
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