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Obama Iran Nuke Deal

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sk8knight

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I love it. I work in CWMD and this is seriously good for business. Now, I'm going to be extremely saddened when Iran's terrorist friends deploy a weapon or when they glass Israel, but come on, let's all cheer for diplomacy. Nothing like treating a position of strength like a weakness and letting the Iranians make out like bandits. But don't worry, there will be a Republican in office when it happens so we can all blame Cruz or Walker or Bush or Rubio. Then we'll get our next Democrat messiah because as Senator Reid put it: "he got elected, didn't he."
 
Its all ego driven between Kerry and Obama that they had to get a deal done no matter what the deal was. It was always going to be spun as a good thing but ask yourself this. It was a six country negotiation and all but the U.S. walked away after Iran would not bend. How good of a deal is it when even Russia walks from the table. The whole administration got played, again. Just a bunch of amateurs.
 
I totally trust the deal, since Iran has always been open and honest with the IAEA inspectors*
 
Did you come up with a better plan? Gotta love Obama's retort to every stupid thing he does. But it's not a big deal guys, the West and Israel came out on top with this deal. It's not like the Iranians were in the streets celebrating with their foreign minister...
 
By the way, a large portion of US sanctions are tied to Iran's role as a State Sponsor of Terror, not their nuclear program specifically. This deal did nothing to address the fact that Iranian financed and backed terrorism is still killing Americans to this day. Nor did Iran pledge to stop any of this.

All this deal will do is give the Iranians a lot more money to finance these operations.
 
Lets let the big boys handle this and have Isreal make another bombing run. We just need to get out of the way. It's sad because the leadership in Iran and the U.S. suck. Most of the public in Iran are very westernized and like America. I have friends that have traveled to Iran and they loved it. Smart people, beautiful country. It's a small percent of their leaders that are extremist
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Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
By the way, a large portion of US sanctions are tied to Iran's role as a State Sponsor of Terror, not their nuclear program specifically. This deal did nothing to address the fact that Iranian financed and backed terrorism is still killing Americans to this day. Nor did Iran pledge to stop any of this.

All this deal will do is give the Iranians a lot more money to finance these operations.
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Agreed. We are officially the laughing stock of the world. The world's largest pu$$y. Not only were they busted for several Non-Proliferation Treaty violations but we discovered an additional nuclear site that they never told us about.

All we've basically done is slow down their nuclear weapon development capability for 15 years but at the same time provided them more $ by starting to lift sanctions next year.

Things we capitulated on during these "negotiations"...
1) Deadlines. More meaningless lines in the sand.
2) Reduction in the number of centrifuges. We originally demanded a number in the 100s. They get to keep over 5K.
3) Ballistic missile programs not addressed.
4) Two heavily fortified nuclear facilities won't be dismantled and shut down.
5) Verification methods to minimize circumvention was greatly reduced.
 
What do you expect when you send amateurs to do the negotiations and we have a commander in chief that has never been responsible anything before being elected.
 
Originally posted by bignow:
Lets let the big boys handle this and have Isreal make another bombing run. We just need to get out of the way. It's sad because the leadership in Iran and the U.S. suck. Most of the public in Iran are very westernized and like America. I have friends that have traveled to Iran and they loved it. Smart people, beautiful country. It's a small percent of their leaders that are extremist

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That's the same thing they said about Iraq when the decision was made to invade them. Because they were so Westernized, Iraq was a shoo-in to establish a democracy. There is nothing westernized about Middle East countries. Don't believe those lies.
 
This is no big deal. Its just Obama being Obama. Bowing before Thugs and dictators..
 
Cute little circle-jerk you boys have going here.

It is rich watching Republicans discuss middle east policy, as if their guys haven't been giant failures in that arena for the past 40 years.
 
There was a Democratic party before you became a liberal... You act like day one was when you decided liberalism was your new fad.
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Originally posted by chemmie:
Cute little circle-jerk you boys have going here.

It is rich watching Republicans discuss middle east policy, as if their guys haven't been giant failures in that arena for the past 40 years.
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Looks you're butthurt that your boy Obama's Middle East policy is up in gigantic flames.

It's rich watching you attempt to discuss anything with a shred of credibility.
 
Obama's middle eastern victories:

Libya - no
Syria - no
Egypt - no
Tunisia - no
Yemen - no


Yup he's done a great job.
 
Let's just recap:

By failing to do anything in Syria, not even arming rebels early on, it's now a complete ungoverned shithole that is half controlled by ISIS.

The ISIS foothold in Syria allowed them to amass an army that eventually swept into Iraq, a county where we left no military presence behind after our pullout in 2009, to prevent this exact thing.

In parallel, the White House has completely destroyed relations with our ally Israel

Our other ally in Saudi Arabia doesn't trust Obama.

The "success story" that Obama used just 2 years ago in his State of the Union Address, Yemen, is now in complete chaos with Iran backed militia controlling half the country and Al Queda the other.

The Obama WH backed Libya bombing campaign in 2009 has created an ungoverned shithole that is now also partially occupied by ISIS and other Islamist groups, including AQAP.

That Libya chaos was now spread into Tunisia, one of the rare success stories of the Arab Spring, and now into Egypt. There's evidence these fighters are now also pushing into sub-Sahara Africa.

Egypt was abandoned by the US for 3 years and now has forged closer ties with Russia and China

And finally, the Obama WH is now trying to finalize a deal with Iran, the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, to allow them to continue running their centrifuges against the wishes of our only allies in the Middle East, all so Obama and John Kerry can claim they did something "important" once they're out of power in 2 years.

You really can't imagine a worse resume for ME policy for a 2-term President.
 
Originally posted by Sir Galahad:
Obama's middle eastern victories:

Libya - no
Syria - no
Egypt - no
Tunisia - no
Yemen - no


Yup he's done a great job.
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Iraq - no
Afghanistan - maybe, yet to be determined.
 
Look just like in Israel, I want peace. I do not want the need for bombs, bullets, armies, or anything. As does every Israeli.
In Israel all they want to do is live free, and in peace. No one wants to have to live under threat of their lives on a weekly or daily basis.

Only if everyone would just be honest and get along!
But that is utopia.
Currently Iran and North Korea have a pact. And Iran is learning about how to build a Nuclear weapon with IAEA weapons inspectors present. How to conceal a site, and so forth. It's called sleight of hand.

I would have no issue with Iran having Nukes, actually they were very Pro-Israel Iran. Persians and Jews somewhat can get along.
The problem is not the majority of Iranians but the minority of which are the ones in power which are the Ayatollah, Iran's Generals and their terrorist puppets Hezbollah.
Many in Iran are against the government, but are afraid to speak out in public, as free speech is not welcome there!

One of the Journalists defected as he was seen as a Pro-government guy, but figures when he defected he did not agree with anything he wrote, since the freedom of press is a key essential towards our Democracy, and towards civilians being free in general.

As the deal goes, we get none of the 4 or 5 That we know of Americans being held prisoner in Iran.
We get inspections, but as some are saying in the media in Iran, they are limited to 6,000 working at one time. Which means they can have only 6,000 working at this site, and then they want to have another 6,000 working the next hour elsewhere. They already are figuring out how to cheat the US on the deal. Which brings up cheating...

If you are cheated on, how many times do you trust someone. I give everyone a second chance. But that is it..
Iran has cheated on the World over 14 times when it comes to Nukes, and sanctions that were put on them post.

If your lover or spouse cheats on you once.. ok, if was human to have an error.. but over 10 times, how do you stay with them?
Also cannot think of anyone running in 2016 that may have been cheated on? lol..
 
Originally posted by mach3ucf:
Look just like in Israel, I want peace. I do not want the need for bombs, bullets, armies, or anything. As does every Israeli.
In Israel all they want to do is live free, and in peace. No one wants to have to live under threat of their lives on a weekly or daily basis.

Only if everyone would just be honest and get along!
But that is utopia.
Currently Iran and North Korea have a pact. And Iran is learning about how to build a Nuclear weapon with IAEA weapons inspectors present. How to conceal a site, and so forth. It's called sleight of hand.

I would have no issue with Iran having Nukes, actually they were very Pro-Israel Iran. Persians and Jews somewhat can get along.
The problem is not the majority of Iranians but the minority of which are the ones in power which are the Ayatollah, Iran's Generals and their terrorist puppets Hezbollah.
Many in Iran are against the government, but are afraid to speak out in public, as free speech is not welcome there!

One of the Journalists defected as he was seen as a Pro-government guy, but figures when he defected he did not agree with anything he wrote, since the freedom of press is a key essential towards our Democracy, and towards civilians being free in general.

As the deal goes, we get none of the 4 or 5 That we know of Americans being held prisoner in Iran.
We get inspections, but as some are saying in the media in Iran, they are limited to 6,000 working at one time. Which means they can have only 6,000 working at this site, and then they want to have another 6,000 working the next hour elsewhere. They already are figuring out how to cheat the US on the deal. Which brings up cheating...

If you are cheated on, how many times do you trust someone. I give everyone a second chance. But that is it..
Iran has cheated on the World over 14 times when it comes to Nukes, and sanctions that were put on them post.

If your lover or spouse cheats on you once.. ok, if was human to have an error.. but over 10 times, how do you stay with them?
Also cannot think of anyone running in 2016 that may have been cheated on? lol..
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Thats all fine and dandy but who will have control of those nukes when they get them, and they will get them. It will be the Ayatollah, Iran's generals and Hezbollah. Now tell me what happens when they develop a small nuke, do you think they will just be all talk then?
 
Don't worry sir G. Iran won't have nukes for very long, they have the perfect place to get rid of them. Israel
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Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
By the way, a large portion of US sanctions are tied to Iran's role as a State Sponsor of Terror, not their nuclear program specifically. This deal did nothing to address the fact that Iranian financed and backed terrorism is still killing Americans to this day. Nor did Iran pledge to stop any of this.

All this deal will do is give the Iranians a lot more money to finance these operations.
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did you mean how the saudi's finance and back terrorism but we still suck them off on a daily basis? or is this just another middle east country we will be sucking off now?
 
Originally posted by Dmarino110:

Originally posted by UCFKnight85:
By the way, a large portion of US sanctions are tied to Iran's role as a State Sponsor of Terror, not their nuclear program specifically. This deal did nothing to address the fact that Iranian financed and backed terrorism is still killing Americans to this day. Nor did Iran pledge to stop any of this.

All this deal will do is give the Iranians a lot more money to finance these operations.
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did you mean how the saudi's finance and back terrorism but we still suck them off on a daily basis? or is this just another middle east country we will be sucking off now?
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Contrary to your InfoWars propaganda, there has never been a credible report that ties Islamic terrorism back directly to the Saudi Government. Notice I said Government, because I'm sure there have been operations financed by one of the 5,000 family members who has been radicalized, but holds no actual power. Even the Congressional 9/11 report looked hard but found no Saudi Government tie to any of the hijackers. On the contrary, they uncovered that the hijackers spent a lot of time in Iran, received Iranian money, and were escorted to the US by a Hezbollah commander.

The direct ties to Iranian terrorism is extremely easy to see. The Ayatollah himself has made no effort to hide the fact that Iran directly coordinates and finances terrorism specifically against the United States. There are now thousands of dead Americans thanks to Iranian terrorism, but I'm not sure you care about this since it doesn't fit your narrative.

Your nuance and understanding of the Middle East truly is elementary.
 
Oh yeah, screw our only long time free-market allies in the region in favor of...Iran.

Israel wasn't even considered.

Screw their leader and his flip-flopping, since when did that matter?? What about the Israeli population???

This administration is rogue, is NOT democratic, and is trying to correct some mythical "wronging" that happened somewhere...or something.
 
Obama just stated he won't even support Israel's request that Iran recognize their right to exist in exchange for making this deal.

It's unreal just how committed this WH is to doing Iran's bidding at the detriment of Israel.
 
Obama cares more about saying he did something no other president could/would than what actually happens after he out in two years.
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Obama is the problem. Republicans would handle things so much better, and not allow Iran to have nuclear capabilities...

"Halliburton, the notorious U.S. energy company, sold key nuclear-reactor components to a private Iranian oil company called Oriental Oil Kish as recently as 2005[/B], using offshore subsidiaries to circumvent U.S. sanctions. "

http://riseuptimes.org/2012/09/12/dick-cheneys-halliburton-sold-nuclear-technology-to-iran/
 
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