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Obama's official portrait

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think pres obamas was pretty good, but dont think they did a good job on michelle.

that said, i dont think they looked into pres obamas painter enough.
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What do you mean they didn't look into his painter enough? He's a gay, black man. I'm pretty sure they saw his work before they chose him lol.
im sure there are numerous talented black artists that couldve done a fantastic job, maybe even better. why go with a guy that has done pictures of black women decapitating white women. if the roles were reversed....
 
What do you mean they didn't look into his painter enough? He's a gay, black man. I'm pretty sure they saw his work before they chose him lol.

Not sure what him being gay has to do with the question at hand.

I think they researched him and knew EXACTLY who they were getting- which makes it even more troubling. He's quoted on the record as saying he depicts the glory of black power in his depiction of a black woman killing and decapitating a white woman.

I don't think I need to explain why there's an issue with the context here. Glorifying the power of one race by depicting them holding the head of another race.
 
Not sure what him being gay has to do with the question at hand.

I think they researched him and knew EXACTLY who they were getting- which makes it even more troubling. He's quoted on the record as saying he depicts the glory of black power in his depiction of a black woman killing and decapitating a white woman.

I don't think I need to explain why there's an issue with the context here. Glorifying the power of one race by depicting them holding the head of another race.

Snowflakkkkkessssss

WHY DO YOU CARE?!
 
How's about YOU, YOU personally practice what you preach? Novel idea. Hmm....

What are you talking about? Do I run around making every single thing in life about racism or some form of victimization? No.

It seems to me you got caught exposed here and now you’re embarrassed
 
What are you talking about? Do I run around making every single thing in life about racism or some form of victimization? No.

It seems to me you got caught exposed here and now you’re embarrassed

Why am I embarrassed? Do you feel the need to always belittle people and call them names? Does it make you feel better?

I have never claimed to be anything but a liberal. I am not a centrist, I said I can simply understand WHY people who don't have the same views as me think they way they do. Instead of calling them out for being a "liberal pansy", I try to understand where they come from and have discussions with them based on that.

You're constant whining and name calling has just gotten on my nerves. I used to enjoy coming on this board a lot. 95% of threads, even if it starts as nothing gets blitzed by you trying to call out some group of people that you don't agree with. If you were trolling, it would be one thing but with you, I'm not sure that's the case.
 
at first i thought his portrait while not my style was good, but now i take it back. looks like the artist actually sucks. probably shouldnt have picked a guy based on his skin color and sexuality.
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i mean unless obama was the bad guy from the princess bride...

here is the sperm some people were talking about.
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im not a fan of michelle obama, but i try to respect the office. i think she shouldve picked someone better. it doesnt look anything like her. maybe its just the style of her painting as well, but the detail on her is missing. i think both paintings hit below the mark considering these are presidential portraits.
 
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Why am I embarrassed? Do you feel the need to always belittle people and call them names? Does it make you feel better?

I have never claimed to be anything but a liberal. I am not a centrist, I said I can simply understand WHY people who don't have the same views as me think they way they do. Instead of calling them out for being a "liberal pansy", I try to understand where they come from and have discussions with them based on that.

You're constant whining and name calling has just gotten on my nerves. I used to enjoy coming on this board a lot. 95% of threads, even if it starts as nothing gets blitzed by you trying to call out some group of people that you don't agree with. If you were trolling, it would be one thing but with you, I'm not sure that's the case.

Oh look - you're whining about other posters again.

Let's just recap: I offered a reasoned explanation as to why people may find this painter to be an issue, and you then name called me (snowflake). Now you're crying about ME name calling? You're the first one in this entire thread to get personal and name call.

Again- you want us to believe you're this "above board" liberal but you're not. Your first reaction in this thread, to a reasonable take on a question you asked, was to get defensive and start with the name calling. I'm sorry if you're hurt that I point these things out, but it's just the truth.
 
Oh look - you're whining about other posters again.

Let's just recap: I offered a reasoned explanation as to why people may find this painter to be an issue, and you then name called me (snowflake). Now you're crying about ME name calling? You're the first one in this entire thread to get personal and name call.

Again- you want us to believe you're this "above board" liberal but you're not. Your first reaction in this thread, to a reasonable take on a question you asked, was to get defensive and start with the name calling. I'm sorry if you're hurt that I point these things out, but it's just the truth.

Okay sweetie.
 
More posts about killing whitey. Just admit white America was wrong when it comes to integrating with these terrorists.
 
I don't think I need to explain why there's an issue with the context here. Glorifying the power of one race by depicting them holding the head of another race.
Snowflakkkkkessssss
WHY DO YOU CARE?!
Because it would be a hate crime if the races were reversed in art from a white man.

Please, please, every time someone like you says this, you just push more moderates to the right.
 
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Because it would be a hate crime if the races were reversed in art from a white man.

Please, please, every time someone like you says this, you just push more moderates to the right.

Well, it wouldn't be a hate crime. Would it get some backlash? Yeah.

As I've tried to state here - you wouldn't be getting backlash from me. Not if it was done artistically. I don't think everything is about race and I despise people who try to make everything about race.

If it was a drawing of a white man in front of a burning cross with a hood on? Okay - then I'd probably have an issue with it.
 
Well, it wouldn't be a hate crime.
Ask a few civil rights lawyers what they think, then get back to me.

I'm sure you'd probably find a few who would want to pick up the pro-bono on it though, and argue the case in the defense of the white artist. Possibly even a few with the ACLU.

Seriously, it's a hate crime if the DoJ thinks it's going to set a precedence, and incite violence.

The question of art inciting violence is not just an US thing either.
 
Whitey sure is pissed off about a painting.
No one is "pissed off." But yes, many people are "frustrated."

I.e., most Conservatives are not getting upset with the painting or painter ... but the hypocrisy of the Progressives.

E.g., the next time a Progressive points out a 'racist' issue in art, Conservatives have yet another 'round of ammunition' against their arguments.

Which is why the 'snowflake' argument, while valid with some Conservatives, is hardly comparable given the US media and Progressives would be all over a white painter doing the reverse. One gets investigated by the DoJ, while the other does not.

But more realistically, let's consider this ...

"Trump has hired a painter, known for painting his murials of white police officers shooting black gang members, where the theme is the police officers are trained shooters (accurate) while black gang members shoot wildly, and injury innocent by-standers."

Now that probably wouldn't be a hate crime, but it would get 100x as many people "pissed off."

Although if the police were painted shooting black people in the back, and the painter advocated such, then yeah, that might be a 'hate crime.' Which is why the 'hypocrisy' argument is valid.

President Obama didn't need to pick this painter ... but he did, and that's why it's a valid complaint.
 
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No one is "pissed off." But yes, many people are "frustrated."

I.e., most Conservatives are not getting upset with the painting or painter ... but the hypocrisy of the Progressives.

E.g., the next time a Progressive points out a 'racist' issue in art, Conservatives have yet another 'round of ammunition' against their arguments.

Which is why the 'snowflake' argument, while valid with some Conservatives, is hardly comparable given the US media and Progressives would be all over a white painter doing the reverse. One gets investigated by the DoJ, while the other does not.

But more realistically, let's consider this ...

"Trump has hired a painter, known for painting his murials of white police officers shooting black gang members, where the theme is the police officers are trained shooters (accurate) while black gang members shoot wildly, and injury innocent by-standers."

Now that probably wouldn't be a hate crime, but it would get 100x as many people "pissed off."

Although if the police were painted shooting black people in the back, and the painter advocated such, then yeah, that might be a 'hate crime.' Which is why the 'hypocrisy' argument is valid.

President Obama didn't need to pick this painter ... but he did, and that's why it's a valid complaint.

Poor whitey. So much oppression.


Also, your posts are insufferable.
 
Poor whitey. So much oppression.
No, no oppression. Just continual hypocrisy. That's why Progressives don't get anywhere with moderates. At least the new DNC chair sees it. Might bode well for the Democrats soon.

Also, your posts are insufferable.
Libertarians always are. As we all say, "If we're pissing off the media sheep on both sides, especially the ones with the common clichés and other, typical arguments, we're doing something right."
 
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