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OT: Big 12 Expansion Poll

Who do we want in?

  • Arizona

    Votes: 75 89.3%
  • Arizona State

    Votes: 73 86.9%
  • USF

    Votes: 3 3.6%
  • Utah

    Votes: 76 90.5%
  • Memphis

    Votes: 16 19.0%
  • Colorado

    Votes: 54 64.3%
  • Oregon State

    Votes: 11 13.1%
  • Washington State

    Votes: 9 10.7%

  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .
No Bulls, Memphis, WSU, or OSU. First 2 will lower SOS for the conference, 2nd 2 bring nothing either (fan bas, recruiting area). Both AZ schools, Utah, and CU, who can bring the Denver area. Leave the AAC schools alone. Pick up 2-4 of ACC schools after SEC takes Clemson, FSU, Miami, + one more (NC?). Big 10 will probably snag ND, Oregon, Washington, and NC/Stanford. Big 12 should then pickup 4: GT, NC State, VT/UVA, and Pitt/BC. All of them have better football programs than UWCF or Memphis and larger fanbases. That would give lots of recruiting potential all the way up the east coast and most of the western US.
 
No Bulls, Memphis, WSU, or OSU. First 2 will lower SOS for the conference, 2nd 2 bring nothing either (fan bas, recruiting area). Both AZ schools, Utah, and CU, who can bring the Denver area. Leave the AAC schools alone. Pick up 2-4 of ACC schools after SEC takes Clemson, FSU, Miami, + one more (NC?). Big 10 will probably snag ND, Oregon, Washington, and NC/Stanford. Big 12 should then pickup 4: GT, NC State, VT/UVA, and Pitt/BC. That would give lots of recruiting potential all the way up the east coast and most of the western US.
Alot would need to fall into place but i like the idea of a mega coast to coast conference. That scenario would at least mean we are apart of the 3rd strongest conference
 
I don’t think they are realistically on the table. I didn’t put a lot of schools on here, just ones that I think will join if offered.
They are realistically on the table. Big 10 has to actually want them and as of right now they do not. If we take 4 more teams from the PAC they aren’t going to have a lot of options.
 
They are realistically on the table. Big 10 has to actually want them and as of right now they do not. If we take 4 more teams from the PAC they aren’t going to have a lot of options.
I disagree. They might be on the table once we poach 4 teams, but I don’t think we can just offer those two and land them.
 
No Bulls...
This may sound too "Old School" for many of you, but IMHO, the very essense of CFB are its rivalry games -- and the more intense they are, the better.

If you want to poo-poo the "WAR ON I-4," and some of the classic battles you've played in the past, that's fine. But I've got a sneaking suspicion you'll discover after it's all over and done with that you miss the chance to beat up on the Bulls in your end-of-the-season rivalry game.
 
This may sound too "Old School" for many of you, but IMHO, the very essense of CFB are its rivalry games -- and the more intense they are, the better.

If you want to poo-poo the "WAR ON I-4," and some of the classic battles you've played in the past, that's fine. But I've got a sneaking suspicion you'll discover after it's all over and done with that you miss the chance to beat up on the Bulls in your end-of-the-season rivalry game.
i am all about the tradition and the rivalry. But college football as we knew it is dead. Dead. May as well say your last respects to that and understand that the dollar rules now and you are either in or out.
 
This may sound too "Old School" for many of you, but IMHO, the very essense of CFB are its rivalry games -- and the more intense they are, the better.

If you want to poo-poo the "WAR ON I-4," and some of the classic battles you've played in the past, that's fine. But I've got a sneaking suspicion you'll discover after it's all over and done with that you miss the chance to beat up on the Bulls in your end-of-the-season rivalry game.
Won’t miss it if they are replaced with someone better. WVU would be my choice. Their fans would make it easy to hate them.
 
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This may sound too "Old School" for many of you, but IMHO, the very essense of CFB are its rivalry games -- and the more intense they are, the better.

If you want to poo-poo the "WAR ON I-4," and some of the classic battles you've played in the past, that's fine. But I've got a sneaking suspicion you'll discover after it's all over and done with that you miss the chance to beat up on the Bulls in your end-of-the-season rivalry game.
I do enjoy beating up on the Bulls but they will do nothing to boost the stature of the Big 12 and most certainly wouldn’t help our recruiting Florida players. Why would we want to further water down the availability of local players, especially if FSU and/or Miami end up in the SEC? Sorry but other than fun they bring nothing to the table we don’t already have.
 
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This may sound too "Old School" for many of you, but IMHO, the very essense of CFB are its rivalry games -- and the more intense they are, the better.

If you want to poo-poo the "WAR ON I-4," and some of the classic battles you've played in the past, that's fine. But I've got a sneaking suspicion you'll discover after it's all over and done with that you miss the chance to beat up on the Bulls in your end-of-the-season rivalry game.
I think we all love the War on I4 and it’s return would be a consolation if we ended up in the same conference again.
But it’s kill or be killed out there right now and none of us are sure how many life rafts are left. If I have to choose between increasing the chances we live to fight another day versus a rivalry with a school we could have left behind, it’s survival every time.
 
I am taking a stance just like the SEC. I want as many state flagship schools in the BIG XII as possible.
1) West Virginia U
2) U of Kansas
3) U of Colorado
4) U of Utah
5) U of Arizona

Oregon and Washington if possible. Don’t really care if we get Cal but won’t hate it either.

Big brands with history and hope they all improve their on field performance in the next few years.
 
Out of the teams listed to choose from, I want Utah, Colorado, Az State and Memphis for now. I still think Memphis got the shaft, they have been too good at Basketball and Football to be left for dead in the AAC. Metro Market, should be a nice TV market and decent recruiting area, also a decent regional partner for us and UC/WVU.
 
Bring in both Arizona schools - huge rivalry. BYU is already on board, so we add Utah for another big rivalry. Rounding off with Colorado most sense geographically. Still a long ways away, but at least it's not on the the opposite side of the continent.
 
Arizona- huge basketball school, AZ state, Utah, and Memphis. Memphis ties WVU, Cincy, and UCF back to the rest of the conference. Also, Beale Street is fun. I'll take Beale street over Rocky Mountain High any day of the week. If we end up in pod play, I like those 4 schools together- Memphis, UCF, Cincy, WVU.

Honestly, most of this depends on what the Big 10 and SEC are going to do. I mean I'm a loyal guy, but if the SEC or Big 10 comes a knockin'. Not that I think it would happen, but if the Big 10 went for Miami and FSU, maybe the SEC might feel threatened in its breadbasket state. Lets be honest. Bama, LSU, Georgia, don't get over the hump without Florida recruits. "So you're saying there is a chance!"
 
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Not usf under any circumstances.....we already have a Kansas football team.

Utah and the two Az teams yes, although Oregon and Washington should be the first options.

Colorado is a wildcard. While it’s good business to lock down the best brand in the state and a previous National Champion, their program has been down for so long.

Other than Memphis, no other G5’s are qualified here and would give us another near East coast team.
 
Not usf under any circumstances.....we already have a Kansas football team.

Utah and the two Az teams yes, although Oregon and Washington should be the first options.

Colorado is a wildcard. While it’s good business to lock down the best brand in the state and a previous National Champion, their program has been down for so long.

Other than Memphis, no other G5’s are qualified here and would give us another near East coast team.
I would be fine with Memphis coming in the over load of teams to the WEST is concerning for the long term. But for now they need to take the best teams available.
 
I would be fine with Memphis coming in the over load of teams to the WEST is concerning for the long term. But for now they need to take the best teams available.
They are a better team for us......Colorado does nothing for UCF, we should be concerned about the island we are on. There is a reason the P12 wanted us cut, and unlike BYU, it has nothing to do with school politics.
 
Keep in mind, Colorado left B12 to go to PAC 12

Does this matter to folks? I don't really care and think if fans of the B12 are still pissed about it they should look forward to crushing them on the field regularly. It's an obvious geographic/historic fit in a very good TV market that would be amazing for road trips. Every school is going to jump if they get a better offer, so the loyalty argument just doesn't seem to matter to me.
 
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Does this matter to folks? I don't really care and think if fans of the B12 are still pissed about it they should look forward to crushing them on the field regularly. It's an obvious geographic/historic fit in a very good TV market that would be amazing for road trips. Every school is going to jump if they get a better offer, so the loyalty argument just doesn't seem to matter to me.
If I recall, they bolted bc TEXAS controlled everything B12. With TX out of the fold, it shouldnt be an issue
 
This is the Program that some of our fans want to naively elevate…and they are still this smug and arrogant after getting left behind

2026. Very seriously doubt that but regardless, we’ll be in our 2nd year in a P5(P3?) conference, hosting games in our 50,000+ stadium against teams like Baylor and Oklahoma State, while FAU is ruining their opening day!
 
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