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OT: TX NIL Story

Yep, this was bound to happen. It really becomes part of the evaluation process now: can a kid handle juggling football performance, classroom performance, the pressure of fame, endorsement responsibilities, AND the lures of the money involved with that? We may see more recruiting busts than we used to due to this. And I am very pro-NIL, but this is one of the considerations
 
lol a bit of hypocrisy given the coaching changes and money that changed hands just a few weeks ago.
 
This was always where it was headed. Good luck trying to distinguish between legitimate business deals allowing athletes to capitalize off their NIL and boosters paying players to sign with their schools. And when the next school pays them more to transfer than they got paid to sign out of high school, they're gone.

Of course this is great for top football recruits and largely irrelevant for, say, the tennis team. But paying players was always going to be an inequitable system.

What fans love about college football, and what separates it from the NFL, will likely fade over the next 10 years or so. Players are no longer playing for their school, they're playing for a paycheck. At some point they might as well drop academic requirements, too, so the players can focus on football and not bother with going to class. Because that is what they are getting paid to do, after all.
 
lol a bit of hypocrisy given the coaching changes and money that changed hands just a few weeks ago.

Exactly, coaches are now getting $10-15million a year, boosters willing to put up $100s of millions for the program, tv contracts in the billions.

Twenty five years ago people were shocked coaches started making $1 million.

As long as fans/alumni are willing to invest millions/billions into college football like its a business, the players will start becoming employees.
 
They were already paying players since the 80's and funneling it through cars, jobs, etc. Just now its acceptable some how. Another problem is how is an 18 year old going to deal with that? With money comes pressure. Also when they fail expect the backlash to that much more because they are no longer a "student" but a paid player. Just like Dillion pushing his dumb fanny packs and socks on UCF than bolting outta here a day later.
 
He better get his socks design together fast to start capitalizing from the moment he signs the transfer papers.
 
What I’m interested in seeing is how well the offensive line is going block for the golden boy QB getting millions while they’re getting zilch. Bet there’s gonna be some fun times in the locker rooms, etc. Nobody’s going to pay all of the linemen or any other non-glory position crap so you gotta believe there’s going to be issues with jealousy.
 
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What I’m interested in seeing is how well the offensive line is going block for the golden boy QB getting millions while they’re getting zilch. Bet there’s gonna be some fun times in the locker rooms, etc. Nobody’s going to pay all of the linemen or any other non-glory position crap so you gotta believe there’s going to be issues with jealousy.
 
This was always where it was headed. Good luck trying to distinguish between legitimate business deals allowing athletes to capitalize off their NIL and boosters paying players to sign with their schools. And when the next school pays them more to transfer than they got paid to sign out of high school, they're gone.

Of course this is great for top football recruits and largely irrelevant for, say, the tennis team. But paying players was always going to be an inequitable system.

What fans love about college football, and what separates it from the NFL, will likely fade over the next 10 years or so. Players are no longer playing for their school, they're playing for a paycheck. At some point they might as well drop academic requirements, too, so the players can focus on football and not bother with going to class. Because that is what they are getting paid to do, after all.
I'm a NIL supporter but also knew this was going to hinder equity (just think athletes deserve to make money like the rest of us). Also agree, when the top teams/conferences break away from the NCAA, talk about eliminating academic standards and requirements with begin. Eventually teams will carry the university name but have few other ties.
They were already paying players since the 80's and funneling it through cars, jobs, etc. Just now its acceptable some how. Another problem is how is an 18 year old going to deal with that? With money comes pressure. Also when they fail expect the backlash to that much more because they are no longer a "student" but a paid player. Just like Dillion pushing his dumb fanny packs and socks on UCF than bolting outta here a day later.
As another poster on here said a few days ago, NIL needs some tinkering. Unfortunately the NCAA is not fully in control anymore so any restriction to NIL will overplay their hand. It will have to be up to the conferences or an organization they form. However it happens, I hate to think it won't happen for a long time- long enough for several of the richest alumni bases to create a big divide between their schools and those "below" them.
 
Every time we seem to be getting closer to the big time, something happens to knock us back down. Anyone that thinks we can remotely keep up with the traditional power teams in re: to NIL has been hanging with USF grads too much. We simply don’t have the generations of donors to funnel the $$$.
 
Even worse money mgmt than overpaying coaches, firing them and then owing that coach millions….for years. This is going to blow up in several programs faces…and it will be fun to watch.
This is working as planned. On one hand student-athletes should have every right that students have. On the other hand, the big powerful schools will keep being big and powerful.
 
How much for DL? Special teams? Starters only?
Is this any different from any other aspect of life? Some people get paid more and have recognition than others. It opens it up more in the locker room, but its not like the star QB and a special teams only player was treated by the coaches, program, boosters, fans, media as the same.
 
Even worse money mgmt than overpaying coaches, firing them and then owing that coach millions….for years. This is going to blow up in several programs faces…and it will be fun to watch.
Is it worse? Auburn paid Malzahn $21 million not to coach. NILs will be short term and for smaller amounts, and as someone like yourself who reiterates that its the players that make a program and not the coaching staff. Seems like it makes sense to have short term contracts with the players vs. long term contracts with coaches that might only win because of a star player.
 
How much for DL? Special teams? Starters only?
BYU playing with rules. All of their walk ons are getting NIL deals to pay for school. Doesn’t sound weird until you figure out that those guys don’t count as the 85 scholarships per year and can add starters as walk on for free to everyone. Walk in’s should not be allowed to get NIL deals.
 
Exactly, of course they'll pay the line. Anyone who pays slight attention to football knows what matters. Just wait for kickers $$$. Tiny now probably, but wait till after a vital game, championship or NC is lost on a kick.
Smaller schools should be focused on this. If you get top linemen, doesn't matter who is running behind them.
 
BYU playing with rules. All of their walk ons are getting NIL deals to pay for school. Doesn’t sound weird until you figure out that those guys don’t count as the 85 scholarships per year and can add starters as walk on for free to everyone. Walk in’s should not be allowed to get NIL deals.
Can’t pick and choose who can get paid on their own image and likeness.
 
Is this any different from any other aspect of life? Some people get paid more and have recognition than others. It opens it up more in the locker room, but its not like the star QB and a special teams only player was treated by the coaches, program, boosters, fans, media as the same.
Without the NIL the college playing field was a bit more level. Now it be out of control.
 
Is it worse? Auburn paid Malzahn $21 million not to coach. NILs will be short term and for smaller amounts, and as someone like yourself who reiterates that its the players that make a program and not the coaching staff. Seems like it makes sense to have short term contracts with the players vs. long term contracts with coaches that might only win because of a star player.
What makes you think that NILs will be short term and for smaller amounts? This is WIDE open now. An athlete could receive a 4 years contract from an auto dealership worth millions. Who knows? I mean that's a bit overkill but it's the point.
 
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What makes you think that NILs will be short term and for smaller amounts? This is WIDE open now. An athlete could receive a 4 years contract from an auto dealership worth millions. Who knows? I mean that's a bit overkill but it's the point.
4 year contract worth even $5 million is chump change compare to Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, Jimbo Fisher, ect. making roughly $100 Million over 10 year period. With buyouts that can be upwards of $30+ million to fire them.

NFL players rarely can lock down guaranteed contracts, no way college players get guaranteed contracts, guys like Ewers will get offers of $1 Million. However, they actually have to play and start to get paid. Otherwise the most they will ever see is some sign on bonuses.
 
4 year contract worth even $5 million is chump change compare to Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, Jimbo Fisher, ect. making roughly $100 Million over 10 year period. With buyouts that can be upwards of $30+ million to fire them.

NFL players rarely can lock down guaranteed contracts, no way college players get guaranteed contracts, guys like Ewers will get offers of $1 Million. However, they actually have to play and start to get paid. Otherwise the most they will ever see is some sign on bonuses.
He got paid 1.4 mil for 3 years just to sign autographs. Guaranteed. He has a few others that he gets paid a base salary and then bonuses when plays.
 
He got paid 1.4 mil for 3 years just to sign autographs. Guaranteed. He has a few others that he gets paid a base salary and then bonuses when plays.
In that case it's not tied to a university and he could go to UCF and get paid.

Still don't see universities giving guaranteed money to an 18 year old kid when a 24 year old professional doesn’t get guaranteed from NFL teams.
 
In that case it's not tied to a university and he could go to UCF and get paid.

Still don't see universities giving guaranteed money to an 18 year old kid when a 24 year old professional doesn’t get guaranteed from NFL teams.
Universities aren’t giving money of any kind. That’s illegal. They can only get money from NIL.
 
Universities aren’t giving money of any kind. That’s illegal. They can only get money from NIL.
I'm implying it wasn't a booster tied to Ohio State. They are fine with him getting paid if he plays for another school.
 
What I’m interested in seeing is how well the offensive line is going block for the golden boy QB getting millions while they’re getting zilch. Bet there’s gonna be some fun times in the locker rooms, etc. Nobody’s going to pay all of the linemen or any other non-glory position crap so you gotta believe there’s going to be issues with jealousy.
Interesting point. I never considered this.
 
I'm implying it wasn't a booster tied to Ohio State. They are fine with him getting paid if he plays for another school.
That's true NIL spending then if it wasn't used as an enticement to play for a particular school.

The Carter Field Initiative and Hearts for Horns at Texas are the opposite end of the spectrum and is clearly an inducement.
 
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