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Our society is getting stupid

SCKnight

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Man I am glad I am not a student at this point.

A group of students go to New Orleans and they 1. Think it is a problem... 2. think it is a fraternity problem...

Underage drinking. Why do people think that making a thing illegal will control it?

Lambda Chi kicked off
 
Originally posted by SCKnight:

Man I am glad I am not a student at this point.

A group of students go to New Orleans and they 1. Think it is a problem... 2. think it is a fraternity problem...

Underage drinking. Why do people think that making a thing illegal will control it?
I saw this story. Absolutely ridiculous....so they were doing what most college students do and went on a fun road trip. Next they'll demand that they end the pledging process, admit girls that don't want to be in a sorority , and other ridiculous demands bc someone is offended about 'the culture' of the American college experience
 
I was thinking the same thing when I read this. That's like being angry at doves for flying. College kids are going to party.
 
I graduated in 2000 but they were pretty stupid back then too. My fraternity got in trouble for a few extremely minor things -- zero alcohol involved, no one hurt, no emotional trauma.

There's
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
There's legit things that happen that warrant the university stepping in -- and there's plenty of examples where the university seems like the fun police. I don't know the details here but was the fraternity on probation for anything?
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I know the national office has very little tolerance for risk, bad press, etc, but.....

Absent one hell of a lot more than I saw in that account, there is no excuse for yanking the charter of a 91 member chapter in this day and age of shrinking membership.

And I fully intend to express that sentiment when the LCA Foundation sends me its next appeal for money.

All future money goes to my home chapter directly.
 
What's the problem here? A few members of a frat decide to take a non-frat, non-university related trip to NO and somehow the frat is suppose to be responsible for what members do on their own personal time?
 
Originally posted by Nyght Shadow:
I know the national office has very little tolerance for risk, bad press, etc, but.....

Absent one hell of a lot more than I saw in that account, there is no excuse for yanking the charter of a 91 member chapter in this day and age of shrinking membership.

And I fully intend to express that sentiment when the LCA Foundation sends me its next appeal for money.

All future money goes to my home chapter directly.
This. Seems to me that a lot of people are aiming their anger at the wrong people here. Nationals shut down the chapter, not UCF.
 
Their is something fishy with this whole story. Their has to be more to this then what is being reported.
 
Originally posted by UCF08:
Originally posted by Nyght Shadow:
I know the national office has very little tolerance for risk, bad press, etc, but.....

Absent one hell of a lot more than I saw in that account, there is no excuse for yanking the charter of a 91 member chapter in this day and age of shrinking membership.

And I fully intend to express that sentiment when the LCA Foundation sends me its next appeal for money.

All future money goes to my home chapter directly.
This. Seems to me that a lot of people are aiming their anger at the wrong people here. Nationals shut down the chapter, not UCF.
Not really.

After multiple fraternity alumni complained about this nonsense, they were golden UCF threatened Nationals they'll ban LXA from campus for 20 years if nationals doesn't pull the charter until the current membership cycles through.

no fun police strike again.
wonder why the homecoming parade has been cancelled? Late 90's early 2000's the leadership started making up stupid rules (like limitations on how long a group can work on their floats). Well fun taken out of competition, students stopped caring. Parade turned to crap and years later - cancelled. No Greek/student support = tradition ended.
 
Originally posted by firm_bizzle:
What's the problem here? A few members of a frat decide to take a non-frat, non-university related trip to NO and somehow the frat is suppose to be responsible for what members do on their own personal time?
You can debate the definition of "personal time," but the quote below sounds to me like they were representing themselves as a UCF organization. If you're decorating coolers as a fraternity or sorority tradition, then doesn't that make it a UCF fraternity or sorority event? And if so, don't they have to then represent the university according to whatever rules have been established?


"After finals, a group of UCF students left Orlando around Dec. 8 or 9 and traveled to New Orleans, where they appear to have thrown a fraternity party or social event, according to a UCF incident report submitted Monday.
The evidence was in photographs that popped up on social media such as Facebook and Instagram.


There were pictures of women posing in what looked like Bourbon Street - although they "joked" they were in downtown Orlando. The photos depicted them painting coolers for the fraternity, a tradition before a Greek party."
 
Any idea if the same guys who thew the "party" were also the ones who made up the story about getting "jumped" on a party bus downtown?



This post was edited on 1/20 10:39 PM by KnightInAtlanta
 
Since when it is important that the charter of a fraternity was shut down? Do they do anything else besides drinking?
 
Originally posted by UCF11and1:
Since when it is important that the charter of a fraternity was shut down? Do they do anything else besides drinking?
When a social organization that's been a part of UCF's identity for this long a time is shut down it's news.

Whether or not you specifically see the value of a greek organization is beside the point.
 
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