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Pennsylvania vote certification halted

Did Russia commit voter fraud?
As we said umpteen times four years ago, the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia didn't impact the actual vote. Trump won the vote fair and square.

But what his campaign did was illegal as hell. Fortunately for Donald, he could buy Roger Stone's silence by commuting his prison sentence.

But yes, massive voter fraud is MUCH worse. (Cue Darth Vader's Theme)

So where's the evidence that is going to rock our world? (Cue the sound of crickets)
 
As we said umpteen times four years ago, the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia didn't impact the actual vote. Trump won the vote fair and square.

But what his campaign did was illegal as hell. Fortunately for Donald, he could buy Roger Stone's silence by commuting his prison sentence.

But yes, massive voter fraud is MUCH worse. (Cue Darth Vader's Theme)

So where's the evidence that is going to rock our world? (Cue the sound of crickets)
Its only silence to you because you refuse to listen to any of the claims. Head in the sand.
 
49 FBI agents, an army of lawers, and 27 million dollars spent and no evidence of collusion. Give it up already.
 
Whats weird about the reactions more than anything is that we aren't even 4 weeks beyond election day and the leftists biggest defense is that "there's no evidence". It takes time to accumulate evidence, and in all reality it's pretty amazing how much we have in such a short period of time. We have expert witnesses in IT, data analysis, forensics, thousands of sworn affidavits, proof that clerical errors have happened in vote counting, and voter roles that all indicate that something odd happened in several states.
 
E) i don't care what happened or if it was the biggest crime in US history because my guy won.
Why entertain conspiracy theories with no evidence backing them up? Trump lost republican controlled Georgia if a republican loses georgia its not that outlandish that he could lose actual swing states too.

He's the president. He has allies in every state. If he had all this evidence as he claims, he could release it with no issue. Yet he released no evidence. So instead of saying "this makes no sense" and then being educated on how you're wrong 30 times in a row, why don't you explain your theory?

That's the thing about conspiracy nut jobs. They ask vague questions and make others debunk them over and over but they can never lay out what exactly happened without it being easily dismissed.

You tell us what happened and where the fraud is big boy. We're waiting for you to post some answers instead of dumb ass questions.
 
Georgia said they had the same rate of signature rejections as in 2018. Not sure why nearly 6% were rejected in 2016 if that is in fact true, but probably not due to signature. The probably improved the process so they weren’t disenfranchising 6% of their voters which in a state with 6 million voters would be 360k.
The reason is they were tossing many minority votes because of signature many Were thrown out But Stacy Abrahms helped change that now if your vote is tossed u can fight it and your vote must be counted
 
Democrats are used to fraud. Now we just need to assume it was just a little and look the other way.
Yep, it's far easier to claim fraud than admit you and your blowhard leader screwed the pooch with covid and lost the election.

#winning
 


I have to think somehow their numbers are off. 1.8 million mail ballot sent out, but 2.5 million ballots were returned?
I actually dug into this...Guiliani is greatly misleading people...1.8 million mail ballots were sent out for the primary election, and 1.4 were returned for the primary election...2.5 mail million ballots were returned for the general election...you can find all this data on PAs government data website...

If anyone wants to see the data for themselves lmk and I'll post the links
 
I actually dug into this...Guiliani is greatly misleading people...1.8 million mail ballots were sent out for the primary election, and 1.4 were returned for the primary election...2.5 mail million ballots were returned for the general election...you can find all this data on PAs government data website...

If anyone wants to see the data for themselves lmk and I'll post the links
This makes sense. Yeah, please post a link.
 
This makes sense. Yeah, please post a link.
Here is the site that has ballots requested and returned for the primary election. It matches up perfectly with what Guiliani is claiming (1.8 mil requeted, 1.4 returned). It's a very large excel file so you may need some statistical software to view it in it's entirety. Click export at the top, then CSV for excel.

And this site documents total mail ballots submitted for the general election which is roughly 2.6 million.

Data on mail in ballots requested for the general election is not yet available to download...Guiliani's claims are mixing primary ballots requested/returns with general election returns
 
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Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rejects Republican Suit To Throw Out Ballots : Biden Transition Updates : NPR

From the article: Another Republican effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election has been stopped, this time by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which on Saturday rejected a request that some 2.5 million mail-in ballots in the state be thrown out.

In its ruling, the high court unanimously dismissed a lawsuit that claimed that a 2019 state law allowing no-excuse absentee ballots was unconstitutional.

The justices contended that if plaintiffs had constitutional concerns over the mail-in voting law, their suit would been filed earlier, and not after millions of mail-in ballots were cast in the 2020 primary and general elections. Justices further noted that the plaintiffs had waited until after the votes were tallied and their preferred presidential candidate lost the state.

"Unsatisfied with the results of that wager, they would now flip over the table, scattering to the shadows the votes of millions of Pennsylvanians," Justice David Wecht wrote in a statement concurring with the three-page order. "It is not our role to lend legitimacy to such transparent and untimely efforts to subvert the will of Pennsylvania voters."
 
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Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rejects Republican Suit To Throw Out Ballots : Biden Transition Updates : NPR

From the article: Another Republican effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election has been stopped, this time by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which on Saturday rejected a request that some 2.5 million mail-in ballots in the state be thrown out.

In its ruling, the high court unanimously dismissed a lawsuit that claimed that a 2019 state law allowing no-excuse absentee ballots was unconstitutional.

The justices contended that if plaintiffs had constitutional concerns over the mail-in voting law, their suit would been filed earlier, and not after millions of mail-in ballots were cast in the 2020 primary and general elections. Justices further noted that the plaintiffs had waited until after the votes were tallied and their preferred presidential candidate lost the state.

"Unsatisfied with the results of that wager, they would now flip over the table, scattering to the shadows the votes of millions of Pennsylvanians," Justice David Wecht wrote in a statement concurring with the three-page order. "It is not our role to lend legitimacy to such transparent and untimely efforts to subvert the will of Pennsylvania voters."
I agree with the ruling, but it was kind of a chickenshit opinion. They basically said that the plaintiffs have standing but offered no remedy moving forward. Why not just say "we can't delegitimize the votes in this election because it would disenfranchise voters but the law passed is in fact unconstitutional and is overturned". Now it has to be relitigated and the plaintiffs will win but they could have avoided that here and now.
 
I agree with the ruling, but it was kind of a chickenshit opinion.
That's because the court was addressing a chickenshit lawsuit.
They basically said that the plaintiffs have standing but offered no remedy moving forward. Why not just say "we can't delegitimize the votes in this election because it would disenfranchise voters but the law passed is in fact unconstitutional and is overturned".
Any ruling in this case would have been a lose/lose proposition. As the court -- wisely -- stated. If you feel this is an issue, there is an appropriate time to bring this forward -- and NOW was not the time. Doing what you are suggesting would have created a whole new controversy--and you know it.
 
That's because the court was addressing a chickenshit lawsuit.

Any ruling in this case would have been a lose/lose proposition. As the court -- wisely -- stated. If you feel this is an issue, there is an appropriate time to bring this forward -- and NOW was not the time. Doing what you are suggesting would have created a whole new controversy--and you know it.
The lawsuit was, and is valid. The remedy is what I am questioning. They should have said that its too late this time but from now on it can't stand. They bailed out of fear of repercussions.
 
They bailed out of fear of repercussions.
Duh. Every judge in every state knows what these lawsuits are really about. So why feed the beast?

If remedies are truly what people like you are concerned about, you can always refile them.
 
Duh. Every judge in every state knows what these lawsuits are really about. So why feed the beast?

If remedies are truly what people like you are concerned about, you can always refile them.
It shouldn't be necessary for them to refile, its already been brought to the court. Dont say "I dont want to rule on this now, spend more money on your lawyers later on and I'll consider it". That tactic is what pissed off justice Thomas last year when he told defendants to knock it off.
 
It shouldn't be necessary for them to refile, its already been brought to the court. Dont say "I dont want to rule on this now, spend more money on your lawyers later on and I'll consider it".
If the plaintiffs REALLY wanted a ruling on it, they would have filed it BEFORE the election.

This was nothing more than another in a long line to idiot lawsuits attempting to overturn the will of the people.
 
If the plaintiffs REALLY wanted a ruling on it, they would have filed it BEFORE the election.

This was nothing more than another in a long line to idiot lawsuits attempting to overturn the will of the people.
Yes they should have, but the current election being processed shouldn't lead to a judge saying come back another time. His judgment on it should be the same whether it was 6 months ago, today, or 6 months from now. By dismissing it for political reasons displays his impartiality and should probably lead to removal from the bench. Judges aren't supposed to weigh public response when they produce a verdict.
 
Yes they should have, but the current election being processed shouldn't lead to a judge saying come back another time. His judgment on it should be the same whether it was 6 months ago, today, or 6 months from now. By dismissing it for political reasons displays his impartiality and should probably lead to removal from the bench. Judges aren't supposed to weigh public response when they produce a verdict.
Nah. Nobody should be removed from the bench for tossing these shitty lawsuits. The lawyers bringing them should be sanctioned.
 
Nah. Nobody should be removed from the bench for tossing these shitty lawsuits. The lawyers bringing them should be sanctioned.
Thats foolish thinking. A law that he basically identified as being unconstitutional still stands because he didn't want to rule on it out of fear of public backlash. Saying that they should have brought it up earlier doesnt change the merits of the case.
 
Thats foolish thinking. A law that he basically identified as being unconstitutional still stands because he didn't want to rule on it out of fear of public backlash. Saying that they should have brought it up earlier doesnt change the merits of the case.
There is no evidence to back up the case. It's why the case is not seen. Also no mention of Fraud. The judge states this law is a year old. No one brought it up then. It was only brought out only till the plaintiff lost. This case has no merit.
 
There is no evidence to back up the case. It's why the case is not seen. Also no mention of Fraud. The judge states this law is a year old. No one brought it up then. It was only brought out only till the plaintiff lost. This case has no merit.
The case wasn't about fraud, it was about whether the law PAs legislature passed was unconstitutional. Go back to the nino table
 
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The case wasn't about fraud, it was about whether the law PAs legislature passed was unconstitutional. Go back to the nino table
Well that's why it had no merit in the case. I am at the Nino table. Giuliani and Lawyers are here with me. Giu head is leaking.
 
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