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Republicans INSIST on Self-Destructing

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Yesterday, the Republican minority-whip in the House, Steve Scalise, was interviewed by Fox News and refused to answer a direct question as to whether Trump lost the 2020 election. Simply mind-boggling. If the GOP believe that the "Stop the Steal" movement is a winning ticket in 2022, let alone 2024, they're bigger idiots than I thought (BTW, that's an extremely low bar.)

 
They're going to give Dems a chance to keep either the House or Senate with these soundbites. Keep it up!
 
They're going to give Dems a chance to keep either the House or Senate with these soundbites. Keep it up!
Historically, the party controlling the WH lose the House in the off-year elections. Given Biden's recent struggles, there's no reason to expect it won't happen again in 2022. But the Dems' not-so-secret weapon could turn out to be Donald Trump.
 
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They're going to give Dems a chance to keep either the House or Senate with these soundbites. Keep it up!
The Republicans have no chance of taking the senate in 2022, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a 30-40 seat flip in the house.
 
Not defending anyone . in other news the labor secretary gave 3 reasons as to why nobody wants to work especially in the service and restaurant industry. None of his reasons included paying people to stay home and do nothing . It was they are reevaluating their career and life . Yeah, because we are paying them to do nothing .

There are a lot angry small business owners all over America and I am one of them, and the Dems are losing the House not because their ideas are so great but because their ideas of central planning and government intervention have royally screwed the middle class and small business. First they deemed us nonessential then they create massive labor shortage by giving away billions to sit on your hands.

This guy can say what ever and it won't matter. Their policies have hammered every small business in America, every downtown , every suburb by creating an artificial government supported labor shortage .
 
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Not defending anyone . in other news the labor secretary gave 3 reasons as to why nobody wants to work especially in the service and restaurant industry. None of his reasons included paying people to stay home and do nothing . It was they are reevaluating their career and life . Yeah, because we are paying them to do nothing .

There are a lot angry small business owners all over America and I am one of them, and the Dems are losing the House not because their ideas are so great but because their ideas of central planning and government intervention have royally screwed the middle class and small business. First they deemed us nonessential then they create massive labor shortage by giving away billions to sit on your hands.

I so this guy can say what ever and it won't matter. Their policies have hammered every small business in America, every downtown , every suburb by creating an artificial government supported labor shortage .

Most states have ended the additional unemployment checks, and unemployment isnt high right now, so this whole narrative is simply false.
 
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Not defending anyone . in other news the labor secretary gave 3 reasons as to why nobody wants to work especially in the service and restaurant industry. None of his reasons included paying people to stay home and do nothing . It was they are reevaluating their career and life . Yeah, because we are paying them to do nothing .

There are a lot angry small business owners all over America and I am one of them, and the Dems are losing the House not because their ideas are so great but because their ideas of central planning and government intervention have royally screwed the middle class and small business. First they deemed us nonessential then they create massive labor shortage by giving away billions to sit on your hands.

I so this guy can say what ever and it won't matter. Their policies have hammered every small business in America, every downtown , every suburb by creating an artificial government supported labor shortage .
Just wait for the rebound. You don't have to work will turn into "you are required to work".
 
Not defending anyone . in other news the labor secretary gave 3 reasons as to why nobody wants to work especially in the service and restaurant industry. None of his reasons included paying people to stay home and do nothing . It was they are reevaluating their career and life . Yeah, because we are paying them to do nothing .

There are a lot angry small business owners all over America and I am one of them, and the Dems are losing the House not because their ideas are so great but because their ideas of central planning and government intervention have royally screwed the middle class and small business. First they deemed us nonessential then they create massive labor shortage by giving away billions to sit on your hands.

I so this guy can say what ever and it won't matter. Their policies have hammered every small business in America, every downtown , every suburb by creating an artificial government supported labor shortage .
The unemployment rate has been dropping at a historically high rate month to month this year. It’s currently at 2017 levels.

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The Republicans will win 1 if not both houses. I agree some of the garbage is garbage, but that is simply red meat for the right wing base. Dems spout equally ridiculous nonsense to feed the far left. The vast majority of people don't pay much attention, and those who do ignore both sides.
 
The unemployment rate has been dropping at a historically high rate month to month this year. It’s currently at 2017 levels.

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So what's with all of the businesses that have to shorten hours or close altogether? They can't find help like they did in 2017 for half the money....yet unemployment numbers are the same.
 
So what's with all of the businesses that have to shorten hours or close altogether? They can't find help like they did in 2017 for half the money....yet unemployment numbers are the same.

Because people are working elsewhere. I get why you guys keep trying to push this, Republicans love to paint people as lazy and worthless, but the reality doesnt match up with the Republican propoganda. Unemployment rates are not high as of this point. If people cant attract employees, it is probably because they dont want to work for that business for whatever reason (most likely low pay), so they took a job somewhere else.
 
Because people are working elsewhere. I get why you guys keep trying to push this, Republicans love to paint people as lazy and worthless, but the reality doesnt match up with the Republican propoganda. Unemployment rates are not high as of this point. If people cant attract employees, it is probably because they dont want to work for that business for whatever reason (most likely low pay), so they took a job somewhere else.
Working elsewhere doing what? What job industry is sucking up all of the employees?
 
Working elsewhere doing what? What job industry is sucking up all of the employees?

We have gone over this on the board several times, I am not sure why this is so hard to understand. For one, many people have retired, so then someone is hired to replace them, and then someone else is hired to replace that person, etc etc. Amazon has been hiring people in their fulfillment plants all over the country, lots of companies have started hiring more remote positions, etc etc. The only places struggling to hire employees are places that are likely paying close to mininum wage.
 
We have gone over this on the board several times, I am not sure why this is so hard to understand. For one, many people have retired, so then someone is hired to replace them, and then someone else is hired to replace that person, etc etc. Amazon has been hiring people in their fulfillment plants all over the country, lots of companies have started hiring more remote positions, etc etc. The only places struggling to hire employees are places that are likely paying close to mininum wage.
Lots of companies have hired Burger flippers to work from home doing what exactly? We can't even keep grocery store shelves stocked at this point. Did the entire supply chain just take jobs working from home? Dock workers, truckers, etc all just figured out a way in the last year to make money sitting behind a computer?
 
Because people are working elsewhere. I get why you guys keep trying to push this, Republicans love to paint people as lazy and worthless, but the reality doesnt match up with the Republican propoganda.
Exactly, Cubs79. The size of the U.S. work force is shrinking as aging baby boomers hit retirement age amid a sluggish economy. This — not the so-called missing workers from the labor force — may be knocking down the unemployment rate faster than expected.

 
Lots of companies have hired Burger flippers to work from home doing what exactly? We can't even keep grocery store shelves stocked at this point. Did the entire supply chain just take jobs working from home? Dock workers, truckers, etc all just figured out a way in the last year to make money sitting behind a computer?

You still arent getting it. The "burger flippers" are now working at other places, I dont know why this is so hard to understand. The supply chain is a world wide issue, it has nothing to do with people being too lazy to work because they are receiving unemployment. If what you guys think is happening, was actually happening, then unemployment rates would be high. They arent. Because they arent, you should very well know that people being lazy isnt the issue.
 
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So what's with all of the businesses that have to shorten hours or close altogether? They can't find help like they did in 2017 for half the money....yet unemployment numbers are the same.
Because when companies that boomed during Covid like Amazon added hundreds of thousands of jobs people left the service and retail industries for those jobs. By and large the people who fled those industries weren’t waiting it out for those jobs to return. There isn’t a large pool of people waiting on these jobs to return. They also aren’t career type jobs people are going to school for.
 
Because when companies that boomed during Covid like Amazon added hundreds of thousands of jobs people left the service and retail industries for those jobs. By and large the people who fled those industries weren’t waiting it out for those jobs to return
Dammit, hemightbejeremy! You can Cubs79 are spoiling all the 'too lazy to work' crowd's thunder. :)
 
Because when companies that boomed during Covid like Amazon added hundreds of thousands of jobs people left the service and retail industries for those jobs. By and large the people who fled those industries weren’t waiting it out for those jobs to return. There isn’t a large pool of people waiting on these jobs to return. They also aren’t career type jobs people are going to school for.
Amazon added 300,000 jobs nationwide from 2019 to 2020. That's like an average jobs report for 1 month.
 
You still arent getting it. The "burger flippers" are now working at other places, I dont know why this is so hard to understand. The supply chain is a world wide issue, it has nothing to do with people being too lazy to work because they are receiving unemployment. If what you guys think is happening, was actually happening, then unemployment rates would be high. They arent. Because they arent, you should very well know that people being lazy isnt the issue.
See, there's your problem, making assumptions once again. I never once said that it was because of people being lazy and getting unemployment. I actually look at the LWPR and unemployment numbers, see what's happening in the real world, and it's clear that things don't add up. The numbers can not possibly be right.
 
See, there's your problem, making assumptions once again. I never once said that it was because of people being lazy and getting unemployment. I actually look at the LWPR and unemployment numbers, see what's happening in the real world, and it's clear that things don't add up. The numbers can not possibly be right.
Then what is it? If you dont think it's because people are lazy, but you dont believe the #s, then why are some jobs not being filled?
 
Amazon added 300,000 jobs nationwide from 2019 to 2020. That's like an average jobs report for 1 month.
They added 500k in 2020 alone, and even more in 2021. We arent talking 2019 because that was prior to covid.
 
Not defending anyone . in other news the labor secretary gave 3 reasons as to why nobody wants to work especially in the service and restaurant industry. None of his reasons included paying people to stay home and do nothing . It was they are reevaluating their career and life . Yeah, because we are paying them to do nothing .

There are a lot angry small business owners all over America and I am one of them, and the Dems are losing the House not because their ideas are so great but because their ideas of central planning and government intervention have royally screwed the middle class and small business. First they deemed us nonessential then they create massive labor shortage by giving away billions to sit on your hands.

This guy can say what ever and it won't matter. Their policies have hammered every small business in America, every downtown , every suburb by creating an artificial government supported labor shortage .
Sounds like you should pay your employees more.
 
Then what is it? If you dont think it's because people are lazy, but you dont believe the #s, then why are some jobs not being filled?
I have no idea. That's why I question whether the numbers were correct before, or if it was fake. Something about it doesn't make sense. Hard to attribute the whole thing to an aging population but I can see how that is a factor. Even with that though, does it stand to reason that a 61 year old would not go back into the workforce at twice the pay as they had as a 60 year old? Did we really have that many older people that aren't accounted for in the LWPR doing those jobs that are going unfilled now?
 
I have no idea. That's why I question whether the numbers were correct before, or if it was fake. Something about it doesn't make sense. Hard to attribute the whole thing to an aging population but I can see how that is a factor. Even with that though, does it stand to reason that a 61 year old would not go back into the workforce at twice the pay as they had as a 60 year old? Did we really have that many older people that aren't accounted for in the LWPR doing those jobs that are going unfilled now?
We are approaching a million excess deaths in the country due to Covid. That’s got to have an impact on the labor force.
 
Imagine that, another whiny new post to cry about Republicans
A whiny new post?

Since Steve Scalise kept dodging Chris Wallace's question, maybe YOU can answer it, UCFKnight85:

Did Trump have last November's election stolen from him? Yes or No.
 
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We are approaching a million excess deaths in the country due to Covid. That’s got to have an impact on the labor force.
Not really. If the average age of death from covid is 79, most of them weren't being counted in the LWPR anyway.
 
A whiny new post?

Since Steve Scalise kept dodging Chris Wallace's question, maybe YOU can answer it, UCFKnight85:

Did Trump have last November's election stolen from him? Yes or No.
at this point it doesn't matter, nothing can change the fact that Dementia Joe is prez.
 
Now do the graph for labor participation rate.
As requested, here you go.


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Down about 1.5% since pre-Covid and ticking up recently. Down about 6% from the peak 20ish years ago. And no doubt the recent decrease is driven by Covid. Unemployment after all is still about 1.2% higher than the pre Covid rate even though it is dropping at a historically high rate. Labor participation decreasing is actually a positive as it means a) families can survive on a single income and b) people are able to retire or retire earlier. And if they aren’t drawing from unemployment, I’m not sure why you’d be very concerned that someone leaves the workforce.
 
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As requested, here you go.


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Down about 1.5% since pre-Covid and ticking up recently. Down about 6% from the peak 20ish years ago. And no doubt the recent decrease is driven by Covid. Unemployment after all is still about 1.2% higher than the pre Covid rate even though it is dropping at a historically high rate. Labor participation decreasing is actually a positive as it means a) families can survive on a single income and b) people are able to retire or retire earlier. And if they aren’t drawing from unemployment, I’m not sure why you’d be very concerned that someone leaves the workforce.
@sk8knight, how are your January 6th LEO friends holding up? You sending money to their GiveSendGo welfare accounts to help them pay for their legal defense?
 
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Good one, goodknightfl. Yet another dodge.
Not a dodge, I do believe cheating went on, YES! it always does, did it flip any districts, which in turn effected the election, I have no idea, but at this point other than fixing things for next time, it doesn't matter one bit. The election was basically over when the states did their final certifications, and completely over after Jan 6. At that point even if huge cheating was proven the results are the results. Do I want Republicans to win both houses in 13 months, yes, Do I want Dementia Joe gone in 3 years? Yes, Do I want him gone now? No. Kamala likely is more inept than he is even without dementia.
 
Not a dodge, I do believe cheating went on, YES! it always does, did it flip any districts, which in turn effected the election, I have no idea, but at this point other than fixing things for next time, it doesn't matter one bit.
No dodge? LOL Biden won the election -- is that really so hard to say?

Jesus, it's a very troubling sign for our democracy when the losers would rather whine about 'cheating' than suck-it-up and admit the truth. Once upon a time, our elections were the examples of the peaceful transition of power that other countries strove to emulate. And now? Thanks to Trump acting like a big baby and followers like Scalise and goodknightfl, we're no better than some third world country for crying out loud.

By the way, I'm still waiting for 85 to answer the same question. My guess is that he's smart enough to know it was all Trump BS but he doesn't want to lose his GOP street cred. So my money's on him not responding at all. :)
 
Ordinarily workers voluntarily leaving their job would be a sign of a strong economy. In this case it think it has to do with the federal vaccine mandate taking effect.
I could see that. It still creates more questions about the numbers though.
 
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