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self driving car plows into journalist

Boston.Knight

Boston.Knight

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ndeed: a "self-driving" parking car which conveniently has an optional extra that stops the car from smashing into people.

In other words, unless you can fork over the extra couple thousand bucks, the future "self-driving" car becomes a war truck right out of Mad Max, filled with an insatiable desire to mangle and crush any carbon-based life forms that have the misfortune of crossing its path.

Just like in the video below. Presenting: the future.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-26/self-driving-car-ploughs-journalists
 
That's not a self-driving car, just self parking.

This is like me driving my truck straight into a crowd using cruise control and getting pissed when it doesn't stop. My truck clearly isn't designed to stop just like this car isn't designed to.

Damnit! I ordered a pizza from a Chinese food place and got lo-main. Welcome to the future.
 
The best they can do is laugh and ask Que Paso? You can hear the poor guys knee crack on impact, although supposedly just bruises.
 
I think Volvo uses MobilEye, which is also what Tesla is using. Here's a video of the founder talking about it.


I'm torn on it. In general my experience with Israel IP is that they are great at first glance demos, but when you dig in to make a product you find the demo was smoke, mirrors, and hackery.

However, this falls into their engineering wheelhouse. Thier best engineers work on the Iron Dome (missile defense) during their military service years. So anything having to do with computer image tracking they are very good at and have years of experience thinking about. Some of the best video compression algos come out of Israel, because video compression is mosty image tracking and recognition. This is a similar problem.

I wonder how much of this was the underlying software and how much was the integration with the car. If I had to wager a bet, I'd say the Volvo engineers are the one's likely at fault as I find it hard to believe it didn't see the people.
 
SublimeKnight said:
I think Volvo uses MobilEye, which is also what Tesla is using. Here's a video of the founder talking about it.
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I'm torn on it. In general my experience with Israel IP is that they are great at first glance demos, but when you dig in to make a product you find the demo was smoke, mirrors, and hackery.

However, this falls into their engineering wheelhouse. Thier best engineers work on the Iron Dome (missile defense) during their military service years. So anything having to do with computer image tracking they are very good at and have years of experience thinking about. Some of the best video compression algos come out of Israel, because video compression is mosty image tracking and recognition. This is a similar problem.

I wonder how much of this was the underlying software and how much was the integration with the car. If I had to wager a bet, I'd say the Volvo engineers are the one's likely at fault as I find it hard to believe it didn't see the people.
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The car didn't have the required camera or radar, so it didn't see the people. The people conducting the test essentially accelerated towards people expecting the car to stop. The car wasn't even in self-park mode so there goes that.

Basically it was stupid people expecting a car to perform in a way it was not intended to perform and wasn't equipped to perform.
http://jalopnik.com/self-driving-volvo-tries-to-run-some-people-over-1706970068
http://jalopnik.com/self-driving-volvo-tries-to-run-some-people-over-1706970068
 
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Too many consumers cannot understand what these capabilities actually provide, and jump to conclusions to what they provide. To make matters worse, marketing ignores engineering, and sells it the wrong way. Then lawyers have a field day, and the rest is history.

Control systems have been, and will continue to be, more of a "safety net" than a "fully aware" solution. That means a "human-in-the-loop" will continue to be the main "control system" in cars.

In fact, if we've learned anything from autopilot in commercial transportation aircraft, it's that the more the human relies on the computer for "awareness," the more issues we will have, because humans will often assume wrongly. And that's with trained, commercial pilots. Most consumer drivers are far, far less trained and knowledgeable.
 
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Breaking news: new technologies are often not perfect in early development.
 
If you "need" a car that assists you in anything driving related, you don't "need" to be driving.
 
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