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i was watching the Florida Tennessee game after we got beat down. The ending to that game was epic and felt so big time. I yearn for the day BHN ever comes close to being that raucous as Ben Hill was today. They fired their coach Muschamp who went just 11-1, nearly making it to the title game, in 2012 which was then followed by 1 disastrous season and a mid tier bowl season. Now they have a new coach who has them at 4-0.

We had our big year in 2013 and are also following that up by a mediocre bowl game and a disastrous seasons (this season). Can we expect GOL to be fired after the season concludes?
 
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We also had our last big year in 2013. But we all know that it doesn't take long for a team to tank or turn it around.

Here's hoping UCF and USC can salvage the rest of our seasons.
 
MasterKnight said:
i was watching the Florida Tennessee game after we got beat down. The ending to that game was epic and felt so big time. I yearn for the day BHN ever comes close to being that raucous as Ben Hill was today. They fired their coach Muschamp who went just 11-1, nearly making it to the title game, in 2012 which was then followed by 1 disastrous season and a mid tier bowl season. Now they have a new coach who has them at 4-0.

We had our big year in 2013 and are also following that up by a mediocre bowl game and a disastrous seasons (this season). Can we expect GOL to be fired after the season concludes?
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Man I feel the same way. Gosh, we are such a POC team right now not even worthy of anything and FLORIDA and many other AAC teams are kicking arse! :-(
 
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MasterKnight said:
i was watching the Florida Tennessee game after we got beat down. The ending to that game was epic and felt so big time. I yearn for the day BHN ever comes close to being that raucous as Ben Hill was today. They fired their coach Muschamp who went just 11-1, nearly making it to the title game, in 2012 which was then followed by 1 disastrous season and a mid tier bowl season. Now they have a new coach who has them at 4-0.

We had our big year in 2013 and are also following that up by a mediocre bowl game and a disastrous seasons (this season). Can we expect GOL to be fired after the season concludes?
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The Gators went for it on 4th down like 4-5 times.

I loved the coach's response when asked about that after the game "I hate Punting"

He is the anti-GOL. UCF needs someone new to re energize this program. GOL should have retired on top after the Fiesta Bowl
 
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We've had some epic game moments in BHNS in front of packed houses, especially in 2013. Just not gonna happen this year, at least not with a big crowd.
 
Goldenbuc said:
We've had some epic game moments in BHNS in front of packed houses, especially in 2013. Just not gonna happen this year, at least not with a big crowd.
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Which games? South Carolina? That game hardly matched the end of the Tenn UF game.
 
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Which games? South Carolina? That game hardly matched the end of the Tenn UF game.
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Depends on the stakes at UCF. UH and USF were down to the wire finishes in 2013. Of course UCF doesn't have 85k like UF, but those were intense. Doesn't have to be P5. I think if the Louisville game had occurred at BHNS, that would have been the best comparison.
 
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i was watching the Florida Tennessee game after we got beat down. The ending to that game was epic and felt so big time. I yearn for the day BHN ever comes close to being that raucous as Ben Hill was today.
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Bummer you missed so many UCF games the last few season....as most (not all) of us enjoyed those last second/min wins by the "Cardiac Kids".

Glad you are happy that Tennessee missed their game winning FG attempt by inches.

I'll gladly take all of the last second/min wins by UCF over the last few years over whatever happened in the game above...just a bummer that you obviously missed way too many UCF games in the past.

Your loss.
 
MasterKnight said:
i was watching the Florida Tennessee game after we got beat down. The ending to that game was epic and felt so big time. I yearn for the day BHN ever comes close to being that raucous as Ben Hill was today. They fired their coach Muschamp who went just 11-1, nearly making it to the title game, in 2012 which was then followed by 1 disastrous season and a mid tier bowl season. Now they have a new coach who has them at 4-0.

We had our big year in 2013 and are also following that up by a mediocre bowl game and a disastrous seasons (this season). Can we expect GOL to be fired after the season concludes?
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For every story like this there a story that goes the other way. Like Tennessee firing Phil Fulmer who had won national titles for them and after a year and a half of mediocre seasons was let go in an unceremonious manner. What have you done for me lately. They hired the hot new coach and great recruiter Lane Kiffen who is everything that the GOL Haters want in a new coach. He proceeded to tank the program. Two coaches and 7 years later they finally seem to be struggling back to relevancy, and this is a premier program with everything in the world to offer a new coach. We are UCF and we don't have all that much to offer. We have more than most G5 programs, but it is not like we would get to pick and choose.

If you are using UF as the benchmark upon which you are comparing UCF then you are in for a long period of disappointment. I guess people also don't remember that UF had decades of mediocrity until Charlie Pell cheated his way to a great team in 1984. Then more several more years of mediocrity while they were on suspension. But college football was a different game then. There was not as much money at stake and people were more patient.
 
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Bummer you missed so many UCF games the last few season....as most (not all) of us enjoyed those last second/min wins by the "Cardiac Kids".

Glad you are happy that Tennessee missed their game winning FG attempt by inches.

I'll gladly take all of the last second/min wins by UCF over the last few years over whatever happened in the game above...just a bummer that you obviously missed way too many UCF games in the past.

Your loss.
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You must have mis-read his message. He said Florida v Tennessee, not Florida v Middle Tennessee State. These cardiac kids of UCF you are talking about had nail-biters against Memphis (3-9), Temple (2-10), SMU (5-7) and USF (2-10), garbage teams that a real coaching staff would be able to beat soundly. Having a comeback or last second victory against a garbage team because you crapped the bed during 75% of the game is in no way the same as the game he was referencing.

You should wipe your nose - there is poop on it.
 
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For every story like this there a story that goes the other way. Like Tennessee firing Phil Fulmer who had won national titles for them and after a year and a half of mediocre seasons was let go in an unceremonious manner. What have you done for me lately. They hired the hot new coach and great recruiter Lane Kiffen who is everything that the GOL Haters want in a new coach. He proceeded to tank the program. Two coaches and 7 years later they finally seem to be struggling back to relevancy, and this is a premier program with everything in the world to offer a new coach. We are UCF and we don't have all that much to offer. We have more than most G5 programs, but it is not like we would get to pick and choose.

If you are using UF as the benchmark upon which you are comparing UCF then you are in for a long period of disappointment. I guess people also don't remember that UF had decades of mediocrity until Charlie Pell cheated his way to a great team in 1984. Then more several more years of mediocrity while they were on suspension. But college football was a different game then. There was not as much money at stake and people were more patient.
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A couple problems with your analogy:
-Tennessee as a program is very apprehensive and reactionary.
-Fulmer continually choked in games against Florida and had trouble getting them over the top. Either way Fulmer was their for 17 years and it was his time to go.
-Fulmer won that national title 10 years before he was fired. What have you done for me lately?
-Kiffin had no ties to Tennessee and it was easy to see that he would leave given the first opportunity. They were in awe of he and his wife's good looks. Total opposite of sweaty Fulmer. They were trying to be "cool"
-Tennessee is state with few recruits and relies heavily on Georgia and Florida.
-Tennessee compounded their Kiffin mistake with the equivalent of curling up in the fetal position by choosing the safe choice in Derek Dooley. "Mr. SEC", who would understand the value of Tennessee football.
 
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You must have mis-read his message. He said Florida v Tennessee, not Florida v Middle Tennessee State. These cardiac kids of UCF you are talking about had nail-biters against Memphis (3-9), Temple (2-10), SMU (5-7) and USF (2-10), garbage teams that a real coaching staff would be able to beat soundly. Having a comeback or last second victory against a garbage team because you crapped the bed during 75% of the game is in no way the same as the game he was referencing.

You should wipe your nose - there is poop on it.
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Those games shouldn't have been close. Many of them we were up in the first half.
 
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A couple problems with your analogy:
-Tennessee as a program is very apprehensive and reactionary.
-Fulmer continually choked in games against Florida and had trouble getting them over the top. Either way Fulmer was their for 17 years and it was his time to go.
-Fulmer won that national title 10 years before he was fired. What have you done for me lately?
-Kiffin had no ties to Tennessee and it was easy to see that he would leave given the first opportunity. They were in awe of he and his wife's good looks. Total opposite of sweaty Fulmer. They were trying to be "cool"
-Tennessee is state with few recruits and relies heavily on Georgia and Florida.
-Tennessee compounded their Kiffin mistake with the equivalent of curling up in the fetal position by choosing the safe choice in Derek Dooley. "Mr. SEC", who would understand the value of Tennessee football.
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Actually very similar to UCF right now. Tenn had 5 10+ win seasons in the 8 years prior to firing in 2008. Three SEC East titles including In 2007 the year before he was fired. There were a couple of 8 win seasons and 2 5 win seasons including the 2008 season which got him fired. This is a record that 80% of the SEC would have loved to have had over that period. But it was not enough. The difference between UF's situation and UT's situation is that UF had to find someone because Urban Myer left the program. Muschamp was a big name. Tanked. Fulmer's time had not yet played out

You act as if Tennessee went into the relationship with Kiffin knowing that he would tank the program. your view is from hindsight. What they thought was that they were getting the great new young offensive mind that everyone seeks. He is the epitome of what some on this message Board want as a new coach. So they jumped in and got played, and guess what? So did USC. They did the same thing and the "new young coach" tanked their program as well. The difference between those programs and UCF can be seen at USF where they did the same thing, only they don't have the resources or history to bounce back.

As for Dooley it does not matter, they hired the best coach they thought they could get and still suffered.

The moral of the story is be careful what you ask for, you might get it.

I must say I do not like GOL as athletic director. The game of college athletics is too complex and I don't think he is the guy to take that position. I think Hitt is too smart to keep him there for too long. I think everyone was waiting to see how Brent handles this season to see what direction the program needs to take. If things don't go well, and they are not looking good, I think Hitt makes a move next offseason and looks for a new AD. I also do not think that they wanted to make a move until the realignment is done. Say what you want, but GOL is well respected amongst coaches and other professionals in the business.
 
Fulmer was still in his late 50s when he got canned. My concern with GOL is that going forward there is too much uncertainty regarding his possible retirement and his one foot in the AD door as a nearly 70 year old man. Add to the mix a catastrophic decline of performance on the field this year (coincidence that this occurs the year he starts angling for the AD job??) and you've got a real mess. If you thought recruiting players and obtaining and retaining good assistants was hard before, the situation looks a heck of a lot worse going forward. It looks like a program that has no plan for where it is going. Give me a plan and I can get behind it.
 
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Fulmer was still in his late 50s when he got canned. My concern with GOL is that going forward there is too much uncertainty regarding his possible retirement and his one foot in the AD door as a nearly 70 year old man. Add to the mix a catastrophic decline of performance on the field this year (coincidence that this occurs the year he starts angling for the AD job??) and you've got a real mess. If you thought recruiting players and obtaining and retaining good assistants was hard before, the situation looks a heck of a lot worse going forward. It looks like a program that has no plan for where it is going. Give me a plan and I can get behind it.
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I don't anyone is arguing that GOL will be here forever. I think it is obvious that he has one foot out the door. I agree there needs to be an exit strategy that does not overly disrupt the program. But you do not fire a coach like GOL from a program like UCF because you have a bad season, even when you lose to Furman. I believe this season was supposed to be Brent Key's coming out party. For a variety of reasons things are not going well. However this season's results cannot be blamed solely on coaching, although that will be part of it. There is a great storm of problems and sometimes as fans you have to suck it up for a season.
 
UF also has alumni who aren't all broke...so there's that to factor in.
 
This is basically what this "Kiddie Board" has become in our losing years ...
  • Antagonist: UCF should, I'm jealous of, look at what X is doing, we are so small time
  • Protagonist: UCF did, where've you been? that's what you get for leaving stadium during/turning off TV games Y and Z, you missed it!
There have been a lot of exciting finishes over the years, several against the P5, and far, far more many heartbreakers too. The fact that so many antagonist aren't around and miss them continues to be the problem, and their gross ignorance is commonly displayed during losing seasons because they clearly have not been around.

However, the antagonists are right about one thing ...
There haven't been too many at BHNS against P5 teams ... extremely few.

But that's only because it's so difficult to actually get P5 teams to come to east Orlando! Which goes back to my long-standing complaint about the antagonists ... They throw crap out that is even impossible for a 17 year winning streak Boise State to see. There are limits to what we can see as a G5, and that's not the fault of Hitt, GoL, the recruits, etc... I actually want to focus on the things we can do, and hold those accountable for what they can and should do.

Not this continued, chronic blight in any losing season that defies logic, let alone exposes ignorance en masse, that is a total distraction.
 
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Knight_Light said:
Bummer you missed so many UCF games the last few season....as most (not all) of us enjoyed those last second/min wins by the "Cardiac Kids".

Glad you are happy that Tennessee missed their game winning FG attempt by inches.

I'll gladly take all of the last second/min wins by UCF over the last few years over whatever happened in the game above...just a bummer that you obviously missed way too many UCF games in the past.

Your loss.
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Against almighty temple? Like those kinds of wins?
 
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